New "Future Proof" Assembled Rig Required

Klaw

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Hello all. I am new to this forum!


Please fill the questionnaire


1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')

Ans: I am not an avid stand-alone PC gamer.I only play online mmorpg games and they are dependent mainly on Internet speed than processing power of the computer. But when i do play the current online games, they take up 99% of my computer resources. Some like World of Warcraft, Heroes of Newerth, League of Legends, Heroes of Storm, DoTA, Counter Stirke among others refuse to even display correctly. The only one which i end up playing now is called "Tibia" which works better on DX5. I have to keep "adaptable V-Sync" to make it work.. it's a CPU hogging game and not GPU/RAM. Along with it I use Word/excel and surf the internet/ watch videos online on youtube/Dailymotion. Also, I like to play songs on itunes as i feel no other software is designed to give a better music quality output

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.

Ans: Around INR 100,000. I can extend but i think it will be fine. This configuration will not be changed till Windows 7 support ends in 2020. Hence, I'd not mind going in for i7 and/or 16GB RAM.

3. Planning to overclock?

Ans: No. I don't want to finger anything. What you will give me is how it will be used.

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?

Ans: Windows 7 Ultimate for now. May upgrade to Windows 10 if need be . My other old stuff won't work with Windows 8.1.

5. How much hard drive space is needed?

Ans: 1 or 2 TB should be fine. 128 ~ 256 GB SSD required for exclusive Operating system and Program files. How many partitions should be there on my main HD?

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.

Ans: I do not plan to buy a new monitor. I have a Dell 19 inch (1280 x 1024) square monitor which i am happy with. The graphics card should have a DVI port for connecting the monitor. If not, then I have in mind Dell S2340L 23 inch monitor with LED display.

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?

Ans: I have Monitor, keyboard and mouse. But I am open to any mouse designed for "Left hand" gamers. Also, a mechanical keyboard with gold plated connectors v/s the present membrane keyboard if you think it's worth the upgrade. Same goes for monitor - I just enjoy looking at my current square monitor which displays the online games perfectly without leaving margins on the sides.

8. When are you planning to buy the system?

Ans: As soon as possible or by April, 2015

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?

Ans: Not built one myself. Will be done by an assembler.

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?

Ans: I live in Shimla. I will be buying locally or can travel to Panchkula/Chandigarh if the need be. I can buy online but then problem of assembling it locally would arise. Which brings me to another question - Is there anybody you can recommend for assembling/buying in Shimla/Panchkula/Mohali or Chandigarh?

11. Anything else which you would like to say?

Ans: I'd like to "future-proof" my current investment, to the extent possible. This configuration will not be changed till Windows 7 support ends in 2020. Hence, I'd not mind going in for i7, 16GB RAM and GTX 980.

My last gaming rig (still working) was bought in 2003, with the launch of Windows XP and still runs fine. I seem to be lacking in mainly "Processing power" as even Firefox Browser takes up 99% of my comp. I also play an online 2 D game which runs on 99% computer processing- it hardly takes up more than 400 MB of my old comp's 2GB RAM.

I'd want provision for an external optical drive and built-in wifi. USB 2.0 and 3.

I am also looking forward to buy a UPS with 30 minutes of power backup and surge / spike protection.

Much appreciated,
Klaw
 
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bssunilreddy

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Intel Xeon 1246v3 -18500,
MSI H97 PC Mate -7000,
Corsair Vengeance 8GB(4GBx2) 1600Mhz -6000,
WD Caviar Black 1TB -5800,
Samsung 840 EVO 250GB -9000,
Zotac GTX 970 4GB AMP Edition -27000,
Deepcool TESSERACT SW-3200,
Seasonic SS650KM3 650w -9000,
Dell S2240L LED IPS -8000,
CyberPower BU-1000-IN UPS -4000,
Cooler Master Seidon 120v Plus -4500.
TOTAL -1,02,000.
 

adityak469

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Phantom 410 - 6k
Seasonic S12II 620W - 5.5k
WD Blue 1TB - 3.5k
Xeon 1246v3 - 18k
H97 Mobo - 7k
HyperXFury 2x4GB - 5.5k
GTX 970 - 27k


Razer Taipan Ambidexterous Gaming Mouse - 5k
I dont knowmuch about keyboards, [MENTION=248727]seamon[/MENTION] may help you


ALSO CHANGE YOUR MONITOR, THIS RIG IS AN OVERKILL FOR 720p
Change it to AOC i2369VM ~ 10k
 

asciif00

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ProcessorIntel Xeon E3 1246 V318,000
CPU CoolerCooler Master Hyper 212x
2,700
MotherboardMSI H97 PC MATE
7,000
Memory
Kingston HyperX Fury 1866Mhz 2x8 GB
8,100
Graphics CardAsus GTX 970 4GB DDR5 DC II OC Strix Edition28,200
SSD
SanDisk Extreme PRO 240GB
11,000
Power SupplySeasonic S12II 620 W5,600
CabinetDeepcool Tessract BF
2,700
Internal StorageSeagate Baraccuda 1 TB
3,400
Optical Drivenone
0
MonitorDell S2340L
12,000
KeyboardLogitech G1052,600
MouseRoccat Kova(+) Ambidextrous
3,300
Total1,04,600

OP please note -

You want motherboard with onboard wifi ?
then go with Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI - 13,000
External optical drive - ASUS External Slim DVD-RW - 1,700
Regarding Future proof, the SSD mentioned is the only SSD with 10 years of warranty.
You can upgrade up to 32GB of RAM in future.
 

SaiyanGoku

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Modified forum's 100k config

ProcessorIntel E3 Xeon 1246 V318,000
CPU CoolerCooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO1,400
MotherboardASUS H97-PRO GAMER9,700
MemoryKingston HyperX Fury 2x4 GB6,200
Graphics CardAsus GTX 970 4GB DDR5 DC II OC Strix Edition28,200
SSDSamsung 850 Evo 120 GB5,300
Power SupplySeasonic S12II 620 W5,600
CabinetNZXT Phantom 4106,000
Internal StorageSeagate Baraccuda 2 TB5,800
Optical DriveAsus DRW 24B3ST DVD R/W1,000
MonitorAsus VK248H LED14,700
KeyboardCooler Master Devastator KB and Mouse Combo2,600
Mouse0
Total1,04,500

Sell your current monitor. GTX 980 isn't as VFM as GTX 970.
 
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Klaw

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Re: New "Future Proof" Assembled Rig Required

ProcessorIntel Xeon E3 1246 V318,000
CPU CoolerCooler Master Hyper 212x
2,700
MotherboardMSI H97 PC MATE
7,000
Memory
Kingston HyperX Fury 1866Mhz 2x8 GB
8,100
Graphics CardAsus GTX 970 4GB DDR5 DC II OC Strix Edition28,200
SSD
SanDisk Extreme PRO 240GB
11,000
Power SupplySeasonic S12II 620 W5,600
CabinetDeepcool Tessract BF
2,700
Internal StorageSeagate Baraccuda 1 TB
3,400
Optical Drivenone
0
MonitorDell S2340L
12,000
KeyboardLogitech G1052,600
MouseRoccat Kova(+) Ambidextrous
3,300
Total1,04,600

OP please note -

You want motherboard with onboard wifi ?
then go with Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI - 13,000
External optical drive - ASUS External Slim DVD-RW - 1,700
Regarding Future proof, the SSD mentioned is the only SSD with 10 years of warranty.
You can upgrade up to 32GB of RAM in future.


Thank you all for the inputs. For this specific Cabinet/configuration - Is there any choice of Internal Optical Drive? Also, what is the RPM of HDD I am looking for? I just hope I get it all in Shimla!

Cheers,
Klaw.

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ALSO CHANGE YOUR MONITOR, THIS RIG IS AN OVERKILL FOR 720p

I'd love to change my monitor but as i mentioned in my post - these square type monitors are the only ones that would allow me to play on-line games without the "blank side margin issues" which i get using wide-screen monitors. This is the only reason i am sticking on with my current monitor!
 

SaiyanGoku

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Re: New "Future Proof" Assembled Rig Required

^ Then GTX 970 would be wasted. Even GTX 960 would do the job. Which games do you play online? There are no side-margin issues AFAIK for games on steam.
 

adityak469

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Thank you all for the inputs. For this specific Cabinet/configuration - Is there any choice of Internal Optical Drive? Also, what is the RPM of HDD I am looking for? I just hope I get it all in Shimla!

Cheers,
Klaw.

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I'd love to change my monitor but as i mentioned in my post - these square type monitors are the only ones that would allow me to play on-line games without the "blank side margin issues" which i get using wide-screen monitors. This is the only reason i am sticking on with my current monitor!

You can get any ODD you like.
7200RPM i guess.

No mods for the game res? Also then don't get a 970 IMO, it'll be wasted. Get a 960.
 
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Klaw

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League of Legends & Heroes of Newerth was giving me a blank side view at times but that might be because of the outdated configuration i was using to play them.

Can't use a resolution mod for my main 2D online game - that company is quite touchy about such stuff and ends up banning you! Same goes for some gaming keyboards using sensitive key macros!

I'll go in for better monitor in due course of time so will stick on with GTX 970. I am afraid AOC or Asus monitors are unheard of in Shimla, so will have to stick with Dell.

Thank you for your replies & time.

I am now researching online the difference between Intel Xeon and Intel i 5 /i 7 ! Or actually the reason why Intel Xeon doesn't figure in standard desktop/laptop configurations - regular or even high end!
 

SaiyanGoku

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Xeon is mostly used as a server CPU but has the same LGA 1150 socket. E3 1246 V3 performs almost same as an i7 4790 (non k) despite i7 being priced 3-4k higher. You won't depend on the iGPU for gaming, so the HD P4600 on the xeon won't matter. Reason it doesn't appears on most desktop configs is that masses have heard only about i3/i5/i7 and nothing else.
 
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Klaw

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Re: New "Future Proof" Assembled Rig Required

Thank you Goku. All 7 Dragon Balls for you!

So none of you would recommend i7 4790K - If I lose the extras of gaming mouse & keyboard? The games I am playing right now, with my current config, seem to be made by a group of college friends, sitting over dinning table; more in line with single threading platform.

I found this online - Xeon vs i7 – What’s the difference? | Velocity Micro Blog

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You can upgrade up to 32GB of RAM in future.

If I take 4 GB x 4 now - will that be better or would you still recommend 8 GB x 2 - and keeping the 2 extra slots open to use in future? Also, can the frequency of these 4 standalone RAMs be different? I am unable to procure 2 x 8 GB 1866Mhz sticks from the local dealer!
 

SaiyanGoku

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Re: New "Future Proof" Assembled Rig Required

I don't know if games require 16 GB RAM. I'm not sure if they'll require 32 GB in future. Still buying 2 x 8GB would be better given you don't compromise on the other parts. Don't depend on local shops for parts. Instead get them online from wherever you find suitable.
 

adityak469

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no game requires 8GB DRAM right now. By the time 32GB DRAM will required, your i7 would be a PentiumD :p
 
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