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You don't need to think about voltage when buying ddr4 desktop ram(it is an issue only when manually overclocking ram,for ddr4 ram 1.2v is JEDEC/default & 1.35v is with using inbuilt factory overclocked profiles using xmp/a-xmp/similar in bios setting so obviously any ram using xmp to overclock is running at voltage deemed safe by ram manufacturer).
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Lifetime warranty means life of product not life of buyer.Different companies consider life of product differently.e.g.for corsair lifetime means 10 years while for other companies it may be less(need to read detailed warranty policy or confirmation from official support via email).

3600Mhz will work but at 3466MHz,also ram operating at anything higher than 3200MHz is very difficult unless you have a deep understanding of manual ram overclocking+your ram is costly model using samsung b-die chips+your mobo bios is very good+your processor also got good memory controller(this depends on your luck as every processor has unique memory controller even if they are manufactured in same way).

Also don't buy any 3000/3200MHz ram with more than CL16 timing(on primeabgb 3200mhz kingston hyperxfury is available for 5100 but it has CL18 timing which is bad).

Ok, some what understand

I choose below this Ram's

Buy G.Skill 8GB DDR4 F4-3200C16S-8GVKB at Lowest Price in India - mdcomputers.in

Or

Buy G.Skill Ripjaws V 8GB DDR4 F4-3000C16S-8GVRB at Lowest Price in India - mdcomputers.in
 
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What is G16, some ram end with this numbers... instead of C16.

Gskill, Adata, Corsair, Crucial....Which brand is best?
 
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AMD Ryzen 3000 CPUs Prices Leaked; 16 Core 3850X To Cost $560

Ryzen 5 3600...$178...12,638/-
Unbelievable..!!
 

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How?
Any specific hours to run continuously.
Just use your pc normally,run some temp monitoring software like Download Speccy | Find your computer specs, free! or HWMONITOR | Softwares | CPUID every 1-2 hours to see temps.Anything below 75-80C should be fine.

Ok, some what understand

I choose below this Ram's

Buy G.Skill 8GB DDR4 F4-3200C16S-8GVKB at Lowest Price in India - mdcomputers.in

Or

Buy G.Skill Ripjaws V 8GB DDR4 F4-3000C16S-8GVRB at Lowest Price in India - mdcomputers.in
Buy G.Skill 8GB DDR4 F4-3000C16S-8GTZR at Best Price in India - mdcomputers.in
Above is also good plus it will look good in a cabinet with transparent side panel(assuming you like rgb lighting). Ryzen 2xxx processors by default support 2966MHz so 3000MHz ram should work at 2966MHz easily while for 3200MHz you will have to use XMP/A-XMP setting in mobo bios.

What is G16, some ram end with this numbers... instead of C16.

Gskill, Adata, Corsair, Crucial....Which brand is best?
Those are just model numbers,main point is CL16 timing as mentioned in specs. GSkill,Adata & Corsair don't make their own ram chips,they use hynix chips for budget/usual priced models & samsung chips for costlier models.Crucial use their own micron chips. GSkill doesn't have RMA centres in India so their replacement directly comes from their official distributor(Tirupati Enterprises in Kolkata) so you need to courier it to them for any rma while for other 3 brands you can go to their service centre in Chennai.

Ryzen 3xxx processors will not come to India before Aug/Sep if they get released in June/July as per rumors.
 
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Buy G.Skill 8GB DDR4 F4-3000C16S-8GTZR at Best Price in India - mdcomputers.in
Above is also good plus it will look good in a cabinet with transparent side panel(assuming you like rgb lighting). Ryzen 2xxx processors by default support 2966MHz so 3000MHz ram should work at 2966MHz easily while for 3200MHz will have to use XMP/A-XMP setting in mobo bios.
Ok, but I don't like RGB, I will place CPU under table only. So avoiding unnecessary fancy or disturbing..while working in late evening.

3200MHz Ram not working in default
support 2966MHz?

For 2966MHz, we have enable XMP/A-XMP setting in mobo bios?

Or

Only 3200MHz, Enable XMP/A-XMP setting in mobo bios?
 
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Those are just model numbers,main point is CL16 timing as mentioned in specs. GSkill,Adata & Corsair don't make their own ram chips,they use hynix chips for budget/usual priced models & samsung chips for costlier models.Crucial use their own micron chips. GSkill doesn't have RMA centres in India so their replacement directly comes from their official distributor(Tirupati Enterprises in Kolkata) so you need to courier it to them for any rma while for other 3 brands you can go to their service centre in Chennai.

Ok, skipped Gskill, What about Kingston?

How to identify Samsung chips in Ram?
 

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Ok, but I don't like RGB, I will place CPU under table only. So avoiding unnecessary fancy or disturbing..while working in late evening.

3200MHz Ram not working in default
support 2966MHz?

For 2966MHz, we have enable XMP/A-XMP setting in mobo bios?

Or

Only 3200MHz, Enable XMP/A-XMP setting in mobo bios?
If everything is fine(there can be no 100% guarantee after all) then any 3000MHz ram will work at 2966MHz by default with 2nd gen ryzen processor even without using XMP/A-XMP option in bios.For running ram above 3000MHz,using XMP/A-XMP is must(or you must manually overclock ram by inputting various ram timing settings).

Ok, skipped Gskill, What about Kingston?

How to identify Samsung chips in Ram?
kingston itself does not have good speed ram but they have it under HyperX brand.However most good 3000/3200MHz ram models are RGB except for some models from Adata & GSkill. 3200MHz hyperX Fury is a bad option with its CL18 timing & Corsair LPX 3000MHz has CL16 timing but its sub-timings are a bit slow compared to usual(it has 16-20-20-38 while usual timings are 16-18-18-36).

No way to identify samsung chips in ram unless someone who bought it confirms it by running some tool.There are reports of some models in India having samsung B-die but don't spend unnecessarily on it as it is mostly for those who manually overclock their ram.
 
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If everything is fine(there can be no 100% guarantee after all) then any 3000MHz ram will work at 2966MHz by default with 2nd gen ryzen processor even without using XMP/A-XMP option in bios.For running ram above 3000MHz,using XMP/A-XMP is must(or you must manually overclock ram by inputting various ram timing settings).
Ok, understand.
If we use XMP/A-XMP settings in bios for 3200MHz....It will affect (or) reduce life of any components due to load like....Ram, CPU, or Mother Board?

As per, 3000MHz, C16 choosed below ram, correct if any wrong...


1. Ada 8GB DDR4 AX4U300038G16-SRZ - Rs.5,300
Speed 3000MHz
Latency CL16-18-18
Voltage 1.35V

2. Adata 8GB DDR4 AX4U300038G16-SBG - Rs.5,300
TESTED SPEED 3000 MHz
TESTED LATENCY 16-18-18
TESTED VOLTAGE 1.35 V

3. Crucial 8GB DDR4 BLT8G4D30AETA - Rs.4,850

TESTED SPEED 3000 MHz
TESTED LATENCY 15-16-16
TESTED VOLTAGE 1.35 V

4. Adata 8GB DDR4 AX4U300038G16-SRG - RS. 4,800
Speed 3000MHz
Latency 16-18-18
Voltage 1.35V
 
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Found few links about Samsung Bdie...But unable to find in Indian market...

B-Die Finder

Clearing up any Samsung B-Die confusion (e.g. on G.Skill Flare X 3200 MHz CL14) : Amd
 

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RAM ADATA DESKTOP XPG GAMMIX D10 - 8GB (8GBx1) DDR4 3000MHZ MEMORY (AX4U300038G16-SRG)

You have very low chances of finding samsung b-die in Indian market.
 

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This is Samsung B die....?
Read description not mentioned any specifically.
Forget about samsung B-die,you won't get it in India unless willing to spend much more & experiment with your money.

Value and Conclusion - MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC: Mixed Mid-Range Impressions
Both gigabyte auros b450 pro wifi & msi b450 gaming pro carbon ac costs same so it depends on whether you prefer better VRMs or better onboard audio/design.
 
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I just added part in Pcpartpicker.com

Added...
Ryzen 5 2600
MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon


It shows below messages..any clarification regarding this?


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Installing m2 sata ssd always disables some sata ports(usually 2) & it is true for intel mobos too.However here it is dependent on conditions.If you install m2 NVMe ssd in m2_1 slot &/or m2 sata ssd in m2_2 slot then it is not an issue.
 
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Installing m2 sata ssd always disables some sata ports(usually 2) & it is true for intel mobos too.However here it is dependent on conditions.If you install m2 NVMe ssd in m2_1 slot &/or m2 sata ssd in m2_2 slot then it is not an issue.

Checked with Manual

SATA Port 5 & 6 are disable, while using NVME Card in M.2 Slot - 1 using.

But not mentioned any M.2 Slot - 2 ?
Any disable port.

We can't use 2 NVME Card?



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You can use 2 NVMe drive,just that NVMe drive in 1st m2 slot will disable 2 sata ports & NVMe drive in 2nd m2 slot will disable all other pcie slots except the main one intended for graphics card. 2nd m2 slot is NVMe ssd only & it is slower than 1st m2 slot(pcie x2 vs pcie x4 for m2_1).

This is not an issue unless you plan on using more than 4 sata ports in future.Even then you can simply buy a sata pcie card with 2 sata ports for ~1000 from amazon.
 
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