Mobile Phones @ CES2015 pissed me off !!! (and Why Big Phones are Stupid)

mikael_schiffer

mikael_schiffer

Padawan
You know what pisses me off? This craze with large phones. I understand people from Eastern Europe and some Muricans can handle it well but seriously DO NORMAL INDIAN GUYS/GIRLS REALLY ENJOY USING PHABLETS?
CES 2015 was overrun with phablets... Not even 5" big phones, but big a$$ 5.5" to 6" phones. This trend needs to stop.

Large screens give the advantage of more viewing space. But it also needs a higher resolution display, to make it tolerable, that leads to requiring more powerful SoC which leads to requiring bigger battery. This endless self-generating needs is POISON. It is killing technological progress. Companies simply roll out a new model Version#2 with increase in NUMBERS(screen size, processor speed,Ram ), instead of increase the QUALITY, and we consumers simply go along with this manipulative charade.

Actually,big screen does not give us more viewing space, technically speaking. Its the resolution that increases the viewing space.

My Question for the day is:- why do people feel they are MOVING UP in their technological life by CREATING NEW COMPROMISES. My friend had to start wearing those shitty cargos just because his expensive Note 3 doesnt fit in his jeans. I MEAN WAT DA FRAK that is SOOOOO RETARDED. Worst of all, none of these Phablet sheep-heads dont realise their stupidity.

Oh so you like watching videos on your phone. What happened to your TV? or your Laptop/computer? Did you pawn it to buy your phone?
Oh so you like surfing on the web on a bigger screen. Tell me how NICELY mobile phones simulate web surfing experience on your cellphone... Youtube Web version on Chrome is barely functional, and the mobile site, no please thats crap. The moment you switch Tabs it GONE! Youtube App? PHULEZZZZ Dont mention that abomination.

You think you have no problems with your large phone. Sit back, chill, sip some coffee, and reflect back on your present lifestyle. Start recalling the times you had to wrestle with your body and use all Yoga positions to take out the phone from your pocket. Or how you cant put it in your boxer shorts back pocket and listen to music while pooping...or you have to use 2 hands to do anything usefull on your phone when few years back the you and the whole world could get by with JUST ONE HAND..

Ok enough rage for now.. Will continue if this topic gets you all interested
 
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rish1

Cyborg Agent
you think trend of 5.5 inch screen phones is stupid ..?

wait for MWC 2015 ..

to witness

trend of 2k resolution on phones !!! :duh2:
 
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cooldude94

Journeyman
If you don't like big phones then don't buy them not everybody has to buy a flagship. You should buy phones according to your needs. Some good small screen phones are moto g 1st gen z3 compact, z1 compact, iphone 5s
 
$hadow

$hadow

Geek in making
rish1 said:
you think trend of 5.5 inch screen phones is stupid ..?

wait for MWC 2015 ..

to witness

trend of 2k resolution on phones !!! :duh2:
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If they came equip with SD 810 it is meant to be 2k since they can support 2k as a native display.
 
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rish1

Cyborg Agent
$hadow said:
If they came equip with SD 810 it is meant to be 2k since they can support 2k as a native display.
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it's not about whether a chip can support it or not .. it's about whether it has any practical use or not .. there is absolutely 0 practical benefit of having QHD display on phones.. and on the other hand it's full of cons.. and manufacturers will mindlessly put these in flagships just to be a part of PPI race ..


Oppo find7 and G3 , note 4 are already using it .. expect galaxy S6 , xiaomi mi5 , sony z4 to follow this trend as well..

next year it will be 4k resolution on phones .. and 700+ ppi
 
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a_k_s_h_a_y

a_k_s_h_a_y

Dreaming
I don't see what more you can innovate with phones? You will only see bigger, better components and software.

Or you want a time machine or a nuke in your phone? is that innovation you seek?
 
Anorion

Anorion

Sith Lord
Staff member
Admin
1. big resolution on small phones is important because you look at them more closely. you can put a relatively low res image on a billboard, and still be effective, because you are going to look at it from that far away, not from 8 inches away.
2. big screens however, are a compromise from the time when manufacturers could not afford to make high resolution smaller screens! It's basically a cheat to force you to look at the phone from further away instead of making a high resolution screen. the fact that even these manufacturers had to follow suit, and these large screen phones are still being made, is just telling on the topsy turvy way decisions are made
3. it's unfair to comment on someone else's use and say no one should be using a phone to do this or that. Like playing games on phone is timepass, or watching movies is a waste. Yes, it's liesure, but it can be high quality pass time, and anyone should be free to use devices how they want without attracting comments from others. Mostly, Im thinking those who make such comments can't have had very good phones.

so conclusion is small screens with high resolution are good
 
$hadow

$hadow

Geek in making
rish1 said:
it's not about whether a chip can support it or not .. it's about whether it has any practical use or not .. there is absolutely 0 practical benefit of having QHD display on phones.. and on the other hand it's full of cons.. and manufacturers will mindlessly put these in flagships just to be a part of PPI race ..


Oppo find7 and G3 , note 4 are already using it .. expect galaxy S6 , xiaomi mi5 , sony z4 to follow this trend as well..

next year it will be 4k resolution on phones .. and 700+ ppi
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Well I can't complain I am someone who loves pixel count. And phablets do look more crispier when you have 2k display can't say about smaller screens.
 
SaiyanGoku

SaiyanGoku

kamehameha!!
They need to make smaller compact phones with almost the similar specs as the flagships kinda like what sony does with Z series phones.
 
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rish1

Cyborg Agent
Anorion said:
1. big resolution on small phones is important because you look at them more closely. you can put a relatively low res image on a billboard, and still be effective, because you are going to look at it from that far away, not from 8 inches away.
2. big screens however, are a compromise from the time when manufacturers could not afford to make high resolution smaller screens! It's basically a cheat to force you to look at the phone from further away instead of making a high resolution screen. the fact that even these manufacturers had to follow suit, and these large screen phones are still being made, is just telling on the topsy turvy way decisions are made
3. it's unfair to comment on someone else's use and say no one should be using a phone to do this or that. Like playing games on phone is timepass, or watching movies is a waste. Yes, it's liesure, but it can be high quality pass time, and anyone should be free to use devices how they want without attracting comments from others. Mostly, Im thinking those who make such comments can't have had very good phones.

so conclusion is small screens with high resolution are good
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yes you are right , but you are comparing tv's with phones, both are viewed from different distances ..

i am comparing phones with phones so the question is how much big is enough and practicable ?

thing is at around 8 inches of distance .. it gets difficult to spot individual pixels on phones with 20/20 vision when PPI starts going over 400 + .. yes you can still spot it if you really look close from 2-3 inches and compare it side by side.. ? but are consumers going to do that ?

with 1080p on 5-5.5 inches we already have 400 PPI + phones.. check reviews of Lg G3 , most people didn't spot much difference between a regular 5.5 inch 1080p and G3
and we know it is better, but how much better it really is in practical life and is it worth sacrificing other important things like battery life, CPU/GPU for a 10 % better perceivable sharpness ?

that is why as per early rumours even htc is not going to use QHD display in its flagship .. and will launch 1080p flagship

and then it comes at a cost of Battery Life and CPU/GPU power !!

we don't see battery life improving this fast .. nor does the GPU evolve this fast to keep up with resolution .. that's why android gaming progress has been really slow..

so you see a galaxy Note 4 that costs 55,000 rs and we have a mid range phone xperia SP from 2013 that costs 12-13k .. from a pure performance perspective Xperia SP can easily hold up against galaxy Note 4 when it comes to gaming .. sure it gets beaten in every other department .. but still see how much resources does that resolution demands .. and it not only effects a few people but the whole industry .. as developers have to design games in accordance with the flagships processing power..

this was not a big issue when the jump was made from 800x 480 to 720p then to 1080p screens .. because there was a world of difference jumping to that resolution in sharpness in a phone and other things were actually worth giving up for this experience.. but the situation is very different now , its close to reaching a saturation point ..

frankly i think Having More battery life and having a less resource hungry screen is far more important in a phone than hard to detect resolution difference.. and other things like colour , screen tech , contrast ratio makes much more of a difference than resolution in deciding which will give you better viewing experience..
 
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Anorion

Anorion

Sith Lord
Staff member
Admin
yep agree, it starts making less of a difference after a point. Battery life is at the moment more critical a specification that needs improvement, rather than anything else
 
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cooldude94

Journeyman
Well resolution will only increase with coming years pc will be moving to 2k and then 4k samsung showed a 8k tv on ces. The adoption of this is less due to high cost but mobile screens are comparatively cheaper hence changes at fast rate.
 
Anorion

Anorion

Sith Lord
Staff member
Admin
the battery thingy explains a bit

Yet what we really use these devices for, according to network operations powerhouse Ericsson, is to move data—increasingly over the 4G wireless tech called LTE. You might think LTE just means a faster Instagram feed. It does. But LTE is also the main reason our smartphones are getting so large. Power-hungry LTE devices want bigger batteries. Bigger batteries mean bigger phones. It’s no coincidence that Apple, Samsung, LG, and Google have all rolled out 6-inch phonelike flagships since the end of 2013.
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Never Buy a Phone Again | WIRED
 
$hadow

$hadow

Geek in making
SaiyanGoku said:
Does samdung sales reflect the lack of quality and VFM factor both, they have in their mushroom like Galaxy series of phones?
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Samsung has got a phone covered at nearly all the budget level but when it comes to flagship you do not have hundreds of options just two. S series and Note series. Z Compact was meant to be a flagship in a smaller size but reality is people has made a shift to that minimum 5 inch mark.
 
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