Microsoft loses anti-trust appeal

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gxsaurav

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din said:
WOW. Never knew that. for your kind information, MS ship Windows without media player in EU before itself. That is a small percentage though. So, MS ships something that is very insecure ? ? ?

Windows XP N, an utter OEM failure.

If you talk about rule, then MS should just bundle the kernel in a DVD. Well, is that a good out of the box experience?
 

infra_red_dude

Wire muncher!
see, it simple. either don't allow 3rd party vendors to write software for ur OS (in which case everything will be provided by the company, vaguely like apple) or jus code the OS and leave the software part to the 3rd party vendor.

MS did not bundle any browser prior to ie4.0 with windows 98. till then the development of netscape was significant. when they started bundling ie4.0 wid win98 (and also as a free download) it killed netscape. so either take the responsibility of developing things first place or don't venture out in the field. jus like MS everyone out there is to do business. everyone needs to survive. for MS it mite be a small issue to make WMP free but for real networks it is not! its their main business. imho this is where MS is wrong.

but i think it was really stupid for the ruling to go against MS when they wanted to lock the kernel. i mean, the case against MS was fought by the world worst AV product companies!! MS shudn't haf given in. its a loss to MS as well as Windows users.
 

NucleusKore

TheSaint
@gx_saurav
I have nothing against what Microsoft is doing EXCEPT that its all so tightly integrated into the OS with no way of removing it- ie, wmp, etc. How I would have loved to chuck ie and wmp out COMPLETELY
 
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din

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gx_saurav said:
If you talk about rule, then MS should just bundle the kernel in a DVD. Well, is that a good out of the box experience?

That is same as Maruti start selling only the engine :)

No, of course it is not good.

So maruti make the car, add the components which they are supposed to add, get tires from other people, add it, get stereo from other people add it etc and finally we get the car.

Now with the 'car making' license, when Maruti make stereo set and tyres and gives them "FREE" with the car ( ;) ) then they are doing something which they are not supposed to do.

Nobody asked MS to deliver only the kernel. But there are things which they are not supposed to do. Reducing cost or helping users - are not justifications for something thats wrong in business.

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Regarding the antitrust, that was about server software isn't it ? And the companies against MS were - Oracle, Sun Microsystems, Nokia and IBM. They didn't demand the entire source code or something, and no way related to Intellectual property thing.
 
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