Looking Cheap upgrade.. 2 questions

[chesss]

Looking for a very very Cheap upgrade.. 2 questions

I am looking for a cheap upgrade . My current cpu is PIII 733Mhz with 256mb ram.

I want this upgrade to be really really cheap. A dead laptop being the reason

I am thinking abt..
AMD Sempron 3200+ @ Rs. 1050 /-
512 DDR2 ram
MSI K9N6SGM-V preferably
OR ASUS M2N-vm


Question 1 - Wld this mobo allow future upgrades? i.e wld future quad cpus fit in this mobo?


Q2) Shld I attach my ancient slow 20gb ide HDD? i.e wld my slow harddisk nullify the effect of the upgraded cpu? Basically how much of a bottleneck wld the hard-disk be?

Thank you

 

[ancientrites]

budget?

 

[Renny]

The mobo u prefer lacks because:-

1. It does'nt not support the Phenom series of CPUs, max RAM is only upto 2GB, only 2 SATA ports,

2. Ur 20GB HDD will bottleneck ur system, go for a 160 or 250 GB SATA HDD depending on ur budget.



I suggest u go for this mobo:-

(MSI K9A2 CF)

*global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=1333&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=171

Priced at 6K it provides excellent VFM.

 

[kumarmohit]

Go for Sempron LE 1100 if you can afford it.

 

[Renny]

Go for Sempron LE 1100 if you can afford it.

Are'nt all Semprons below rs.2.5K?

 

[chesss]

Ok I got the prices from nehru place-

sempron 1150 -1450
MSI mobo - 2200
80gb seagate -1800
512 ddr2 - 450

= 5900
So the only issue remains is...

1. It does'nt not support the Phenom series of CPUs,

but are u sure abt this??

AMD confirmed that AM2 processors will work in AM2+ motherboards and AM2+ processors will work on AM2 motherboards. However, due to the lack of support of HyperTransport 3.0 and separated power planes in Socket AM2 motherboards, AM2+ chips will be limited to the specifications of Socket AM2 (HyperTransport 2.0 at the speed of 1 GHz, one power plane for both Cores and IMC). AM2 chips will not benefit from faster HyperTransport and separated power planes on AM2+ motherboards as they do not support them, AM2+ motherboard then fall back to compatibility mode using AM2 specifications.

*en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_AM2+

 

[saqib_khan]

chesss pls go for 1 GB 667 MHZ RAM = 900 Rs.
Purchsing less than that is of no use imo.
Also ur HD price is costly, i mean, why don't u buy 160 GB HD for 2000 Rs.And ofcourse buy SATA 7200 rpm & 8 mb buffer.
And ur wikipedia link is correct, but according to tests conducted , many mobo don't support phenom.
It's only the theory which AMD said, but it's too far from practical.

 

[gulgulumaal]

Dont worry about phenom for now. By the time phenom becomes mainstream, your motherboard will become quite outdated. Then u'll be better off selling ur mobo/proccy/ram combo and getting a newer motherboard which supports phenom properly. For ur ultra low budget,just get something which will get u running at the lowest cost.

I wud suggest Jetway M26GT3-SVP. Support for 8GB RAM and a decent chipset. Cost shud be around 2K only.

And BTW instead of Sempron, get an Athlon AMD 64 LE 1600+ (Rs 1750/-) if budget permits. U get a lot more performance for 300 Rs extra.

 

[chesss]

^^Thanks a lot for replying
Your help is priceless.
I'll look into your suggestions.

 

[chesss]

get an Athlon AMD 64 LE 1600+ (Rs 1750/-)

r u sure abt the price? It is available for 2500 on ebay

 

[saqib_khan]

Don't buy anything from ebay or any online site, instead buy from ur dealer.
Ask for the prices in 5-10 shops, as i did before buying mine. lol.
I m serious, i did that, & u can also do that.
And yes , i liked ur signature "jin files...."

 

[chesss]

^thanks

My final config

AMD Athlon le-1600+ -1750 THis looks like a terrific chip!
Have a look here here I am drooling at the prospect of playing with this . Thanks gulgulumaal
MSI mobo - 2200
512 ddr2 - 450

= Rs. 4500
I want to go for a cool/decent and if possible fanless psu so I'll skip the sata and stick with my IDE..
So whats the quietest psu cabinet combo do I get for Rs. 2500?

 

[harryneopotter]

atleast get a 160 GB sata (if u r going for a HDD) coz there is little difference in price (150-250 max) and u will get double the storage capacity.

 

[chesss]

Change of plans
My final config
AMD Athlon le-1600+ -1750
512 ddr2 - 450
silent n cool sata HDD fomr my laptop - free! turns out 2.5 sata HDD are totally compatible with desktops!! no need for any wires/adapters
cd-rw from old desktop - free!

The change is ..
ASUS M2A-vm -3350
It has
a) AM2+ support. pop in a f!@#@ phenom baby!
b) ATI card that has 3d drivers for ubuntu
c) aero compatible onboard VGA!! ahhhhhhhhhh
d)major ocing support .
All this is toooooo much to miss. It wld be crazy to go for anything else

=Rs.5600.. SWEET

I am overjoyed here! I was looking for a cheap upgrade, but it has almost turned into a dream system(taking into acc my bugdet)...Also my proccy will be noiseless, my HDD is baerly audible, Now I just need a quiet 300w PSU cabi within 2k for the ideal system.

btw my suggetion for those building 20000K systems -
Instead of getting one system, get 2 systems like mine , which wld cost u abt 16000 and now with the left over money u can rent neighbour kids to play lan games with u...

 

[chesss]

Edit: I am confused again. two more mobos have popped. Both with ATI X1250 (aero compatible)

Jetway M2A692-GDG -- Rs. 2550 perfect.. got great reviews but no am2+
MSI K9AGM3-F --Rs. 2800 has AM2+ , but I can't find a review or even detailed specs for this..
help plz

 

[juggler]

better go for Asus m2-am.
On one of the benchmarks on some site they have tested it with phenom with no problem.
Also its a very good performer and in my opinion asus makes the best boards

 

[Zangetsu]

in my opinion asus makes the best boards

Not true always.......

 

[juggler]

Just an opinion arising out of personal experience

 

[saqib_khan]

Edit: I confused again. two more mobos have popped. Both with ATI X1250 (aero compatible)

Jetway M2A692-GDG -- Rs. 2550 perfect.. got great reviews but no am2+
MSI K9AGM3-F --Rs. 2800 has AM2+ , but I can't find a review or even detailed specs for this..
help plz

Don't buy any from these 2, buy Asus M2A-VM, instead.
I think there is some issue with graphics on m2a vm, read the reviews on net first & take ur decision.
Can u buy jetway mobo ?
Do inquiry of amd 690g chipset in jetway, and say us the price and model no of it.

 

[chesss]

^that was just a driver problem..
btw a dealer quoted m2a's price at 5500 ...on the phone
and when I asked him abt athlon 64 le-1600+
he said "aisa koi processor nahi hai. AAp galat bata rahe ho" wtf. I guess I'll have to make another trip to nehru place.. arghhhhh

Can u buy jetway mobo ?

well I have no idea abt availability
and Jetway M2A692-GDG - this itself has 690g