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gxsaurav
You gave been GXified
There are already Open source "nv" drivers out there, isn't it? Besides, nVidia & ATI are gaming graphics card companies & we all know the status of games in Linux. In this context, maintaining an active gaming grade driver team for Linux is near useless.
For OS grade drivers, open source community is already making nv drivers, although slow
For OS grade drivers, open source community is already making nv drivers, although slow
eddie
El mooooo
Status of gaming in Windows is enormous still we see Vista users complaining about Graphics drivers? If we go by your logic then Vista should have had stable and high performance drivers since its RC releasesgx_saurav said:
PS: I somewhere read that a 5 license pack of Leopard costs just $199. If you can find 4 Mac friends then your effective cost could come down to just $40
iMav
The Devil's Advocate
not having drivers is not MS fault ... if i remmber corectly and i think u would be informed as well that drivers for gfx cards are made by the hardware guys like nvidia and atieddie said:Status of gaming in Windows is enormous still we see Vista users complaining about Graphics drivers? If we go by your logic then Vista should have had stable and high performance drivers since its RC releases
gxsaurav
You gave been GXified
@ el moooo
U forgot that Vista is a complete new architecture. WDDM Drivers which are DX 9 as wella s DX 10 compatible. nVidia right now is maintaining 6 drivers sets.
On Linux it is a different story, drives can be easily made if there is substantial driver demand & if they are worth making. If in the end the user is going to run the OS only (mostly) then why maintain an active driver team? Just add features when required & bug fixes are already there in nv drivers. The current Linux drivers support OpenGL 2.0 completely. Now what is left is bug fixing & maintaining an active linux team is not justified. The OS works with current drivers fine na...so why release monthly updates, when one size doesn't fits all.
U forgot that Vista is a complete new architecture. WDDM Drivers which are DX 9 as wella s DX 10 compatible. nVidia right now is maintaining 6 drivers sets.
On Linux it is a different story, drives can be easily made if there is substantial driver demand & if they are worth making. If in the end the user is going to run the OS only (mostly) then why maintain an active driver team? Just add features when required & bug fixes are already there in nv drivers. The current Linux drivers support OpenGL 2.0 completely. Now what is left is bug fixing & maintaining an active linux team is not justified. The OS works with current drivers fine na...so why release monthly updates, when one size doesn't fits all.
nepcker
Proud Mac Pro Owner
You didn't know that OS X comes in multi-user license?aryayush said:WOW! I did not know that. If it is true, one of us can buy five copies and then nepcker, mail2and, goobimama, I and a fifth person can share it.
Mac OS X comes in two versions: Mac OS X and Mac OS X Server. Both can be purchased in both single and multi user licenses.
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Sukhdeep Singh
Host4Cheap.org
goobimama said:
Hmm Maybe Windows user
i_am_crack
HAF 922 Owner
yeap only the Window Geniune User....Unlike me cause i only have Oem version with no media....
aneesh kalra
Mclaren F1 Long tail
Slightly off topic but are graphic cards not available for the mac mini means will your regular pci express card not fit into it.When I asked the mac dealer guy he quoted 37k for the mac mini with 60 gb and 7k for 128mb card
aryayush
Aspiring Novelist
I knew about the multi-user license but I never knew it came that cheap. In fact, I think mehulved might even be wrong.nepcker said:
Uh oh! That will be a problem. I know I want it. I have my MBP's box, of course.goobimama said:
I know what we'll do. I'll pay a little extra and keep the box. Or better still, I'll buy it and ship it to all of you (I already have some experience with that now) and keep the box to myself.
gxsaurav
You gave been GXified
Slightly off topic but are graphic cards not available for the mac mini means will your regular pci express card not fit into it.When I asked the mac dealer guy he quoted 37k for the mac mini with 60 gb and 7k for 128mb card
The graphics card which you get normally in the market will not work in Mac.
Mac mini is very small to fit your own graphics card. For 37k it comes with Intel GMA 950 which is good to run Mac OS X but not good to run Windows Vista in Boot camp
iMac comes with a Radeon X1600 which is again good enough to run Mac OS X but ATI is knows to have OpenGL Games performance problems & there drivers suck (nVidiot here
)Mac Pro comes with either a Useless GeForce 7300 GT or Uber High End Quadro cards, & Quadro cards are not meant for gaming. Again good enough to run Mac OS X but not for running Windows Vista in dual boot with gaming.
The only Desktop is Mac Pro while iMac & Mac mini are closed systems which cannot be upgraded other then the RAM manually. If Apple doesn't support upgrading then you have to hack which will break warranty.
In Mac Pro, you cannot just buy a graphics card available in the market & plug it in Mac Pro. It will not work as Mac graphics card come with EFI Compliant ROM chip which only works with Mac.
Bottom Line : Mac cannot be upgraded, unless you call upgrading RAM as the only upgrade possible.
aneesh kalra
Mclaren F1 Long tail
What I thought was that since now all mac minis are core2duo equipped they should essentially support adding your own graphics card even micro-atx boards allow you to do that,although a mac mini is smaller than that but they should atleast offer graphic cards at moderate prices but a 128 mb graphics card for 7k is daylight robbery,he suggested that intel gma 950 is enough but I know what crap even x3000 is.
aneesh kalra
Mclaren F1 Long tail
Ya sorrry for that was searching for imacs on safari(windows)while writing this so the typo.The point I was wanting to make is that it is no longer that apple has ibm power pc procys so they should be comparatible with the hardware as well or do the macs derive their perfomance from the fact that the os is linked to a fixed set of hardware.I mean that is the whole superiority of the mac is only due to their os which is itself a derivative of x window system which is alo used by linux so with the same set of hardware as the mac would a hypothetical better than leopard linux os perform better.
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