Inviting to discuss - Buying new desktop computer - assembled

Chaitanya

Chaitanya

Cyborg Agent
Where do you live??

May be if nearby there are some good shops in short distance you may plan a weekend trip. :)
 
rijinpk1

rijinpk1

Aspiring Novelist
nac said:
Went to a local shop yesterday to ask for quotation. They don't have a single thing in the list. :( I guess I have to buy everything from online sellers.
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i understand that. even i had to visit a handful of shops to assemble my current pc. stick to the config no matter what the shopkeeper insists.
 
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nac

nac

Aspiring Novelist
^^ I live down south in a small town. :) I will see what other shops have in stock.

^ Yeah, I will make sure I stick with the configuration. I remember how that turned out last time :)
 
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nac

nac

Aspiring Novelist
I was reading reviews of the components we have narrowed down. There are so many negative reviews on ASUS H81M-K in newegg. They were buyer/owner reviews, many says that there is a problem with NIC. Did you any of guys come across such reviews? If this is something to do with ASUS, I should look somewhere else (Gigabyte - but I can't have dual monitor with this one), if this is something to do with the chip set H81, then I have to go for some other chip set - here I have to shell out more :(
 
rijinpk1

rijinpk1

Aspiring Novelist
nac said:
I was reading reviews of the components we have narrowed down. There are so many negative reviews on ASUS H81M-K in newegg. They were buyer/owner reviews, many says that there is a problem with NIC. Did you any of guys come across such reviews? If this is something to do with ASUS, I should look somewhere else (Gigabyte - but I can't have dual monitor with this one), if this is something to do with the chip set H81, then I have to go for some other chip set - here I have to shell out more :(
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unlucky americans ;) it should have been corrected if it is a serious issue and affects all the boards. sometimes it happens with a batch of products.you can try gigabyte h81m s2pv as alternative.
 
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nac

nac

Aspiring Novelist
^ :lol:
Thank you. Good to know I have choices... and glad that I don't have spend a lot to get B85 chip set motherboard just to have dual monitor option :)
 
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nac

nac

Aspiring Novelist
Two things...
1. Read in a forum that Antec VP450p is using a not so quality capacitor. The cheapest PSU suggested (not for me ;)) was Seasonic 430W (I guess some of you know where I am referencing). Does it mean that the Antec is as good/bad as the el cheapo PSU (which comes with the local cabinet)?

2. Seems like Pentium Haswell series (G3220) is launched in India and priced much cheaper than the i3 4130. Should I consider this one?
 
harshilsharma63

harshilsharma63

DIY FTW!
nac said:
Two things...
1. Read in a forum that Antec VP450p is using a not so quality capacitor. The cheapest PSU suggested (not for me ;)) was Seasonic 430W (I guess some of you know where I am referencing). Does it mean that the Antec is as good/bad as the el cheapo PSU (which comes with the local cabinet)?

2. Seems like Pentium Haswell series (G3220) is launched in India and priced much cheaper than the i3 4130. Should I consider this one?
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> VP450P is good. It's definitely not equal or close to el chepo PSUs.

> Stick to i3 as you'll be using the rig for a long time.
 
rijinpk1

rijinpk1

Aspiring Novelist
nac said:
Two things...
1. Read in a forum that Antec VP450p is using a not so quality capacitor. The cheapest PSU suggested (not for me ;)) was Seasonic 430W (I guess some of you know where I am referencing). Does it mean that the Antec is as good/bad as the el cheapo PSU (which comes with the local cabinet)?

2. Seems like Pentium Haswell series (G3220) is launched in India and priced much cheaper than the i3 4130. Should I consider this one?
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you cant really hope to have all japanese caps on a budget unit. seasonic 430W is better in this regard but is almost 1.4k costly. antec vp450p is good for the price.el-cheapo ones are not even close. there is another seasonic ss400bt at 2.5k.
 
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nac

nac

Aspiring Novelist
Thank you Harshil and Rijin. :)
rijinpk1 said:
there is another seasonic ss400bt at 2.5k.
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You mean, this would be good enough for i3 with HD7770 (most likely I am not buying, but just in case)? But this too didn't make it in the list.
 
kARTechnology

kARTechnology

Sony " VA" "IO"
nac said:
Point to note: Right now I am running my system in home ups 875va. Though the need for separate UPS is less, I really think I need it. So the suggestion should be good enough to run the entire system for at least 10 min and at the same it shouldn't not be higher power than my home ups.
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is your ups a PURE SINEWAVE UPS?
what battery is it using currently?

I run my pc with the power switch 24x7 on(router not switched off since 30 days) due to my pure sinewave inverter 800va
 
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nac

nac

Aspiring Novelist
Yes, it's pure sinewave, at least that's what it says. And the battery is 150AH tall tubular. Actually, this if for home use. Since my UPS is repair, I connected my computer in UPS line.
I couldn't find the model in official website, this is the model I have.
Luminous Inverter 875 VA Sine Wave Delivery Only TO South India AP KAR KL TN | eBay

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Got quotation from three shops.

I was little surprised that they have stock of 4th Gen i3, coz they didn't have it last week :) (though that was a different shop. In a small town, if one doesn't have mostly likely no body have it).
Shop # 1 - 7% expensive than online.
Shop # 2 - 22% expensive than online. :shock:

I highly doubt the quotation they gave me was for the model I asked for. They called someone to ask price (guess they don't have stock). They didn't even mention the model no. for the product when asking for price. They just said, 4th gen i3, asus dvd drive, h81 (??? motherboard for the i3), corsair/kingston memory, antec smps... :)

Shop # 3 - Seems like the poshest shop in my town :) They didn't call anyone. They showed the models they have, (and they don't aware of H81) though I haven't seen i3. It's little expensive than other shops, they only have B85 which costs 6400 and they don't have antec. Cooler master thunder for 3900/- and vengeance for 2900/-. They said Corsair RAM comes with heat sink (???). Is it?

Seems like only dvd drive and UPS is little cheaper than online (though I am not sure that they gave the quotation for the model I asked for).

I think I have to take a trip to nearest metro to buy these things or get them online. :(
 
harshilsharma63

harshilsharma63

DIY FTW!
nac said:
Yes, it's pure sinewave, at least that's what it says. And the battery is 150AH tall tubular. Actually, this if for home use. Since my UPS is repair, I connected my computer in UPS line.
I couldn't find the model in official website, this is the model I have.
Luminous Inverter 875 VA Sine Wave Delivery Only TO South India AP KAR KL TN | eBay

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Got quotation from three shops.

I was little surprised that they have stock of 4th Gen i3, coz they didn't have it last week :) (though that was a different shop. In a small town, if one doesn't have mostly likely no body have it).
Shop # 1 - 7% expensive than online.
Shop # 2 - 22% expensive than online. :shock:

I highly doubt the quotation they gave me was for the model I asked for. They called someone to ask price (guess they don't have stock). They didn't even mention the model no. for the product when asking for price. They just said, 4th gen i3, asus dvd drive, h81 (??? motherboard for the i3), corsair/kingston memory, antec smps... :)

Shop # 3 - Seems like the poshest shop in my town :) They didn't call anyone. They showed the models they have, (and they don't aware of H81) though I haven't seen i3. It's little expensive than other shops, they only have B85 which costs 6400 and they don't have antec. Cooler master thunder for 3900/- and vengeance for 2900/-. They said Corsair RAM comes with heat sink (???). Is it?

Seems like only dvd drive and UPS is little cheaper than online (though I am not sure that they gave the quotation for the model I asked for).

I think I have to take a trip to nearest metro to buy these things or get them online. :(
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> Don't go for Cooler Master Thunder, it's crap.

> Corsair Vengeance comes with heat sink. What you should for is Corsair Value Select that doesn't come with heat sink and is cheaper.

> You should get them online instead.
 
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nac

nac

Aspiring Novelist
Thank you guys.

No. I am not going out of the suggested models. I am gonna stick the config, 110% sure. Unless, you guys suggest something better for the same price.

So the plastic thing is the heat spreader/heat sink... :) I thought that it is a fancy design. Other than value select, other three (vengeance, ripjawsx, hyperx blu) seems to have it.
 
kARTechnology

kARTechnology

Sony " VA" "IO"
nac said:
Yes, it's pure sinewave, at least that's what it says. And the battery is 150AH tall tubular. Actually, this if for home use. Since my UPS is repair, I connected my computer in UPS line.
I couldn't find the model in official website, this is the model I have.
Luminous Inverter 875 VA Sine Wave Delivery Only TO South India AP KAR KL TN | eBay
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I'd suggest you to sell that old pc ups and this inverter and get a 800va exide inverter(with LCD) as it gives the purest quality power than your existing ups...apc ups gives worst sqaure wave power output, which will reduce the life of your psu...

2 years back i faced many hdd issues, changed my psu to CX430V2, but still the os drive died, so this time replaced the hdd and exchanged my sq. wave inverter to a pure sinewave one(amaron iAce 800va)

imagine with my pc running in battery power i can use the mixi also simultaneously(with all lights and fans off) and pc didnt reboot...
P.S. you need to put your inverter in ups mode

the exide 800va sinewave inverter doesnt make any buzzing sound even if u put your ear near its ventilation holes...and your psu also doesnt make any buzzing noise...
 
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nac

nac

Aspiring Novelist
:D Thanks buddy. But I can't won't sell my one year old home UPS (Luminious) which is working perfectly fine. If you're talking about Numeric 600va, I don't think there will be any buyer for a non working product. :)

Yes, when I am working in my computer, I always keep Luminous in Regulated UPS mode. So I don't have to bother about power fluctuation/low voltage.

APC not good :shock:
 
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