FX8320, Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 - need Graphic Card

bssunilreddy

Chosen of the Omnissiah
Why not go for 2200G or 200G or even 3000G then? Buying a GPU in this budget makes no sense when APUs exist at lower price.
Then OP can go with Intel Pentium 5400 right?
The processors you specified has only 2 cores. Just look at this:AMD Athlon 200GE vs. AMD Athlon 3000G - Benchmark and Specs
 

SaiyanGoku

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Then OP can go with Intel Pentium 5400 right?
The processors you specified has only 2 cores. Just look at this:AMD Athlon 200GE vs. AMD Athlon 3000G - Benchmark and Specs
All processors in this budget will have 2 cores, even G5400 has 2 cores and that doesn't even matters for the basic tasks OP would be using it for.


 
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Skyh3ck

Skyh3ck

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Why not go for 2200G or 200G or even 3000G then? Buying a GPU in this budget makes no sense when APUs exist at lower price.


not intrested in buying GPU, as when the GPU is not working entire system becomes useless untill i arrange another working GPU.

so only want a motherboard, CPU and RAM - with Integrated GPU

i can extend my budget, but the PC should be good powerful to run Chrome, some photoshop, PDF reader, etc at same time. also possible some light RTS gaming on mid or low setting
 
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Skyh3ck

Skyh3ck

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No motherboard comes with on-board graphics these days.

Intel processors have integrated GPU.

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i think i am out of touch from computer world for quite some time, what do you mean by no motherboard has on board graphic now days ?? please explain

Does that mean , we have to buy a separate dedicated graphic card almost all new system ?

What is processor having integrated GPU ? do we still need graphic card ?

I have seen PC withoug graphic card, but still working fine, like Pentium G4560 with Gigabyte GIGABYTE GA-B350M-D3H or i guess B250 motherboard

Please explain, do we always need to buy a graphic card.
 

whitestar_999

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processor with integrated graphics+any mobo=display/no need of graphics card for display
processor without integrated graphics+any mobo=no display/must need graphics card
any processor+any mobo+graphics card=needed only for playing games
 
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Skyh3ck

Skyh3ck

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processor with integrated graphics+any mobo=display/no need of graphics card for display
processor without integrated graphics+any mobo=no display/must need graphics card
any processor+any mobo+graphics card=needed only for playing games

so processor with IGP is called APU - true or falls ?
how can we check which processor has graphic in built ?
so does all motherboard now days require graphic card if processor doe not have it, i believe earlier motherboard used to have IGP capability, since when all this started.

How much processor with graphic cost, and how good is their perfomance in gaming etc
 

whitestar_999

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so processor with IGP is called APU - true or falls ?
how can we check which processor has graphic in built ?
so does all motherboard now days require graphic card if processor doe not have it, i believe earlier motherboard used to have IGP capability, since when all this started.

How much processor with graphic cost, and how good is their perfomance in gaming etc
Yes,APU is processor with integrated graphics.

For Intel,all processors have integrated graphics except models ending with 'F'. e.g. i3 9100 has integrated graphics but i3 9100F does not have integrated graphics.

For AMD,no processor comes with integrated graphics except those models ending with 'G'. e.g. Ryzen 3500/3600 don't have integrated graphics but ryzen 2200G/3200G/athlon 200GE have integrated graphics.

Ever since intel launched core i 2nd gen(starting from 2011) processors with integrated graphics,intel mobos stopped coming with integrated graphics.AMD followed the trend & by the launch of ryzen processors in 2017 AMD mobos too stopped coming with integrated graphics.

For intel,there is no extra cost because their integrated graphics is relatively weak(only when talking about gaming) but for amd processors the difference is ~1-2k & the limit is 4 cores(no 6 cores integrated graphics processor from amd). For gaming,you need minimum 2200G/3200G with 2*8gb ddr4 3000MHz ram(as amd processor integrated graphics performance depends on ram) & it can play older games & some recent games at 720p with mid to low settings. @SaiyanGoku will be able to better tell this as I am not a gamer.
 
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Skyh3ck

Skyh3ck

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Yes,APU is processor with integrated graphics.

For Intel,all processors have integrated graphics except models ending with 'F'. e.g. i3 9100 has integrated graphics but i3 9100F does not have integrated graphics.

For AMD,no processor comes with integrated graphics except those models ending with 'G'. e.g. Ryzen 3500/3600 don't have integrated graphics but ryzen 2200G/3200G/athlon 200GE have integrated graphics.

Ever since intel launched core i 2nd gen(starting from 2011) processors with integrated graphics,intel mobos stopped coming with integrated graphics.AMD followed the trend & by the launch of ryzen processors in 2017 AMD mobos too stopped coming with integrated graphics.

For intel,there is no extra cost because their integrated graphics is relatively weak(only when talking about gaming) but for amd processors the difference is ~1-2k & the limit is 4 cores(no 6 cores integrated graphics processor from amd). For gaming,you need minimum 2200G/3200G with 2*8gb ddr4 3000MHz ram(as amd processor integrated graphics performance depends on ram) & it can play older games & some recent games at 720p with mid to low settings. @SaiyanGoku will be able to better tell this as I am not a gamer.

Hmmm thanks.

So if i buy a processor that has integrated graphic and put on a motherboard that do not have integrated graphic, so do motherboard has video output connection..

Does all motherboard has video output connection now
 

whitestar_999

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All video outputs on any mobo rely on integrated graphics of the installed processor(if it has any) & all mobos have video outputs(you can check the specs on mobo manufacturer website).
 

sling-shot

Wise Old Owl
not intrested in buying GPU, as when the GPU is not working entire system becomes useless untill i arrange another working GPU.

so only want a motherboard, CPU and RAM - with Integrated GPU

i can extend my budget, but the PC should be good powerful to run Chrome, some photoshop, PDF reader, etc at same time. also possible some light RTS gaming on mid or low setting
AMD APU is a no brainer.
 

SaiyanGoku

kamehameha!!
If basic gaming is a need but budget is too low for a dGPU, get a Ryzen 2200G. It would perform much better than iGPU in Intel processors, including the Iris one.
 
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Skyh3ck

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Ok tomorrow or day after tomorrow going to buy the parts.

Please give me option what should i buy.

Motherboard
Processor
Ram

What about intel

No ove clocking or gaming

Only office work
 

bssunilreddy

Chosen of the Omnissiah
Ok tomorrow or day after tomorrow going to buy the parts.

Please give me option what should i buy.

Motherboard
Processor
Ram

What about intel

No ove clocking or gaming

Only office work
Processor -AMD RYZEN 3 2200G WITH RADEON RX VEGA 8 GRAPHICS PROCESSOR (upto 3.7 GHz / 4 MB Cache)
MB -ASUS EX-A320M-GAMING MOTHERBOARD
RAM -ADATA XPG GAMMIX D30 8GB (8GBX1) DDR4 3200MHZ RAM
 
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Skyh3ck

Skyh3ck

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Processor -AMD RYZEN 3 2200G WITH RADEON RX VEGA 8 GRAPHICS PROCESSOR (upto 3.7 GHz / 4 MB Cache)
MB -ASUS EX-A320M-GAMING MOTHERBOARD
RAM -ADATA XPG GAMMIX D30 8GB (8GBX1) DDR4 3200MHZ RAM


how is this, will it be good for some light casual gaming like RTS, FPS etc.

will it work without graphic card or i need to buy one,
can i add graphic card and SSD and more RAM later if i wish to
and i have Corsair VS450, will it be compatible with it

Or

Does it make more sense to keep the FX8320 and Asus M5A97 and just buy a new low cost graphic card.

I am inclied towards buying new please suggest
 

SaiyanGoku

kamehameha!!
will it work without graphic card or i need to buy one,
can i add graphic card and SSD and more RAM later if i wish to
Depends on what games you want to play. If it is any recent ones which need decent GPU (probably 1650 Super or above), 2200G would be a bottleneck. If you want upgradability, this setup would not be helpful to you. You'd be limited to lower end AM4 CPUs/APUs because of the VRMs and more than 16GB ram here won't make sense.
Does it make more sense to keep the FX8320 and Asus M5A97 and just buy a new low cost graphic card.
For gaming, I'm expecting it to cause a bottleneck for any decent GPU. Used RX570, 1050Ti, RX580 can be found for around 6-7k. Paying more won't give you the expected performance increase. And mobo has a PCIe gen 2 slot.
 
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