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Ask Honor 10 — Product Manager Q&A

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  1. Digit-Brand

    Digit-Brand The Digit brand team Staff Member Admin

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    Participate in our Honor discussions, post your opinions, get likes on your posts and stand to win an Honor 10 worth ₹33,000 & up to ₹70,000 PayTM cash!

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    In addition to the bounty mentioned above, Honor is planning to give away 5 Bluetooth headsets for posts in this particular thread as well.

    Honor’s “Ask·Honor 10 —— Product Manager Q&A” event is now live and will go on till June 24.

    During the event, Honor is inviting all forum members to let them know their thoughts, feelings, as well as any questions that they might about about the new Honor 10.

    In this thread, feel free to ask anything related to the Honor 10 smartphone by June 24.

    Then, Honor’s Product Managers will begin answering those questions. Here’s a quick look at the the three Product Managers, who will be answering your questions.

    Product manager profile:

    Name:Pei Song Xiao

    Title:Honor Senior Product Manager/ Product Domain General Manger

    Bio:Mr Pei Song Xiao joined Huawei in the year of 2005 and he has worked in Huawei for 13 years now. During his more than a decade working in Huawei, he has grown from a junior engineer to Honor’s general product manager and a senior technician of Huawei consumer BG. For years, he has been responsible for Honor flagship phones’ development and management including the newly launched Honor 10.

    Name: Qiang Gan

    Title: Honor LMT(Lifecycle Management Team) manager

    Bio: 2004, Joined Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd and has been engaged in the research and development of mobile phones until 2015, mainly responsible for software development, like EMUI 1.X, EMUI 2.X, EMUI 3.X.

    2015 – present, Responsible for Honor Maintenance, lifecycle management after Honor product is launched. Also responsible for the voice management, product experience improvement, user management, etc.

    Name: Kun Li

    Title: Honor PDU (Product Development Unit) manager

    Bio: Mr Kun Li joined Huawei in 2000 and now he is the manager of Honor PDU department. After working for nearly two decades in Huawei, he has accumulated abundant experience in mobile phone development field. As the head of R&D department who is in charge of Honor flagship phones development, he is proficient in all kind of issues related to smartphone.

    Prizes:

    5 Honor Bluetooth headsets. An Honor 10 worth ₹30K and up to ₹70K free PayTM cash up for grabs by the end of the campaign — For more info on this, check this link out for more details.

    The Only Rule? Irrelevant, abstract or meaningless messages and questions like “Very good!”, “How is Honor 10?”, “What’s the price?” etc. are not valid.

    So fire up those brain cells and think of a really good question. Honor’s Product Managers are here to answer them.
     

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  2. SaiyanGoku

    SaiyanGoku kamehameha!! Staff Member

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    I feel like Honor 10 is a bit downgraded version of Honor View 10 (if not similar) but is priced 10% higher. Is it just the aesthetics of the back panel which you are trying to promote when the front doesn't looks good because of the notch? Despite users hating the notch, why was it so important for Honor to include it in Honor 10?

    Form should never be preferred over functionality in my opinion. Reducing the battery capacity, removal of sd card slot (ironically the 7c has 3 slot design), mutilating stock Android to make it look like iOS, preventing users from unlocking bootloader (and getting rid of frankly garbage EMUI), not complying to GPL are some of the issues I have with Honor phones.

    To Mr. Qiang Gan, since you are managing product experience improvement, I'd like to suggest you to dump EMUI all together and opt for android one program. Other functionality can be added without crippling android.

    To Mr. Pei Song Xiao and Mr. Kun Li, please don't copy Apple's trash anymore. Treat Honor 10 as the only design mistake and work upon it. Use good AMOLED panels, ditch the notch, get IPx8 rating, dual front facing speakers, dedicated dac/amp for 3.5 mm jack, >6000 mAh battery, all metal body and proper gorilla glass protection. Take help from Google for camera department :p
     
  3. anupam_pb

    anupam_pb Gear up ...

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    Can you blame them for copying Apple?

    Apple who are introducing useless things (notch) & removing useful ones (3.5mm jack & fingerprint sensor) & are still able to get 90% of smartphone profits & 20% of market share, not to forget its considered a status symbol.

    Apple just proves that people will buy anything if marketed right & others are just trying to use that marketing to their advantage by providing notch, face unlock, etc at a lower price.

    There are many people who don't like stock android for the lack of features. I'm one of them & my opinion of stock android changed due to 2 years with Nexus 4. I had to root it within a week & flash custom ROM. I never found custom ROMs stable enough for daily use. I need to do maintenance once every 2 months or so, reflashing the ROM, etc. I then moved to stock like android (Sony) but again I rooted it within a year. I doubt I'd root my current phone anytime soon as it has all the features I need. I recently used Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 extensively & I'm not moving to stock anytime soon. EMUI is nicely optimized (used a friend's Honor 7X). I would seriously think small companies should opt stock android as optimizing a heavy OS is not easy for sure (Oppo, Vivo etc have bad UI which lags, even Samsung had laggy UI before S6 I think). I would agree that stock android would make it much easier to push android updates but many people don't care about it.

    AMOLED will be more popular now for sure, thanks to Apple, same with IP ratings. I doubt 6000mAh will be common anytime soon unless there's a breakthrough in battery tech improving their energy density. Like it or not many people care about looks of the phone. It is one of the reason companies were able to sell glass back phones. Even I would like to have a metal back on my phone (that's the only complaint of my current phone, actually last 3 phones).

    I think the Indian pricing of Honor 10 isn't right. Honor 10 costs about 400 euros whereas OP6 is 500 euros making the gap between them large enough. In India, people will just buy OP6 by paying 3k more. AMOLED & OIS makes it a better choice IMO.

    I want to ask why stick with BW 2nd sensor? Wide angle (like LG) or telephoto lens seems more useful for 2nd lens. I'd agree that it is more useful than OP6 one which seems to be there just to tick a box of having dual cameras.
     
  4. Ashutosh Rajput

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    Hey
    This phone looks amazing but i really want to know the use of AI in phones.
     
  5. SaiyanGoku

    SaiyanGoku kamehameha!! Staff Member

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    It baffles me that marketing research guys are responsible for stupid notch trend in phones.

    Xiaomi Deletes Twitter Poll when more people prefer Android One over MIUI
    People did prefer stock android over MIUI which probably has a larger userbase than EMUI and other mutilated android UIs.

    I don't like the way chinese OEMs (except probably Oneplus and Moto) implement their stock os. They move around the settings and remove/disable core functionality from stock android. Honor can start following Oneplus and Moto's approach for software. Clean, non-bloated UI with added features and consistent monthly updates which doesn't looks like iOS. If they want it to look different, change the stock icon pack.
     
  6. anupam_pb

    anupam_pb Gear up ...

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    Yeah, I like Oneplus' approach. It has a decent amount of features over stock android.

    You might be surrounded by many tech-savvy people, that's why you don't know the weird demands of people. I know people who want phones with native dual app software & such.

    Bit offtopic, I know a girl who bought Asus ROG laptop for its RGB backlit KB.

    So, twitter poll doesn't show the whole picture. I am happy as long as OS is properly optimized & doesn't lag in the long run. Security updates would be great, but no manufacturer except Google is regular. Moreover, general people don't care about such things.
     
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  7. SaiyanGoku

    SaiyanGoku kamehameha!! Staff Member

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    It's more like I'm surrounded by people who want a phone which just works, isn't laggy or priced ridiculously like iPhones. At first they don't care about the UI and later when the phone starts to slow down because of bloat, they want to throw the phone away despite having capable hardware.
    Native dual apps and other such stuff can still be added without messing up core android. Custom roms have a concept of aroma installer which implements the same thing. Even GApps have modular aroma installer.

    I don't have problem with useful additions (like VILTE video calling), its the bloat and stupid modifications that make me hate any OEM's stock OS.
     
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    Charchit Sharma New Member

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    My name is Charchit Sharma https://www.linkedin.com/in/charchit7/, I wanna be a product manager too and this opportunity gives me chance to interact with great Product Managers, so thanks for that!

    I have few questions for the team-
    1. How does the ultrasonic fingerprint sensor work?

    2. As we know that companies and people these days are now really into back fingerprint sensor instead of the front so do you think that as per the design aesthetics is it a good option and why do you prefer front fingerprint sensor instead of back?

    3. Using glass back it helps in wireless charging what are the other features it helps and how does it work.

    Thank You!!
     

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