Are Macbooks worth the price?

[Anorion]

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I had to argue with a macbook user, that his macbook was fine with gaming. It's just such deeply ingrained bias against macs and gaming, that even if the situation changes (and it is, steam has a modest library of mac games), people, even macbook users, will continue to say "eh macbooks are not for gaming" for years. there are some fun casual games on mac app store which I wish were available on windows. eg: rc mini racers

some games you can play on macs without bootcamp include Limbo, Bioshock : Infinite, Tropico 4, Star Wars : Jedi Knight Academy, Psychonauts, Call of Duty : Black Ops, LOTR : War in the North, Star Wars : Knights of the Old Republic... point is, there is no dearth of good games to play natively

the content on the mac app store is awesome and with constant stream of new stuff, and price drops (to free also), at least better than the windows store.

So which one should I go for?
I see one's starting from 60k till 1 Lakh 70k.

get 13" macbook pro, or if you like 15"

 

[aaruni]

Software updates are free but most recent updates will eventually require new hardware. (say after 3-4 years)

My C2D 2GB RAM MacBook does still work at a respectful level of performance (so, that's 5 and a half years of use), and is expected to work for an year more before finally being too old to keep up.

 

[seamon]

My C2D 2GB RAM MacBook does still work at a respectful level of performance (so, that's 5 and a half years of use), and is expected to work for an year more before finally being too old to keep up.

On a similar note, my 7 years old Thinkpad R61 is still running strong. It's a good rig for torrenting. Recently I tried running NFS MW 2012 and it gave 1-2 FPS

 

[ithehappy]

Unbelievable! I mean I'm commenting on a freaking laptop topic, that, and that people think those sodding Mac Books can be used for long. I use a Lenovo laptop in my office, which was purchased in July, 2006, it runs on Pentium Dual Core (those first generation ones), it takes almost 3 minutes to get into Windows 7, the OS is not formatted for past three years at least, and it just goes on and on. I personally handle it like a ping pong ball, when I get feed fed up by work pressure I use to slam the lid close, I just love that, that 'bam' sound. Dropped it twice, once from the desk, around four feet, once from my bed. No sane person out there who can use it more badly to be honest.
So how much was the price back at that time? 65k or something. How much can I fetch for it now? 6-7k.

Ajay, sometimes ( or mostly always? Lol ) nerds like us have some itching to spend (waste actually) money, it's happening with you now, that's all right, but that thing which you are thinking about getting doesn't worth even wastage of money, you see what I mean?

Extremely stupid, junk and overpriced crap, Apple products (ALL OF THEM), Beats headphones, Razer peripherals.

This comment won't give me even 1 buck, so why the hell I'm bothering? Because it's Sunday, and I honestly would like you to see your 100k (or whatever amount your wanna burn) be spent elsewhere. If it really has to be a laptop (anything over 30k is wastage of money for ANY laptop, unless you're a hippie), then get Alienware.

 

[Anorion]

Windows based laptops and Macbooks are both just tools to get what you want done. When it comes down to it, both offer about the same amount of functionality. In fact, for me good quality laptops of both are same, one is not superior to the other, just superficially different.

That said, there is a lot of bias against apple products, and open undisguised hatred towards the company, that just is not healthy for tech enthusiasts.

Apple is not a luxury brand thing, like a Porsche , Ferrari branded tech devices, where they just slap on a logo and charge you more for the same thing.

Razer, Apple, Alienware, all offer amazing build and functionality for the price point. They have unique, patented features that are carefully thought through to serve some special purpose for which they were made. These devices are incredibly long lasting. A razer mouse will outlast a logitech gaming mouse, and survive more clicks. At some point, you cannot afford to buy cheap, short-lived... junk. Think of them as JBL, not Skullcandy.

A macbook is more like a Jaeger-LeCoultre than an Armani.

quote from Jony Ive explaining exactly why Apple products cost a premium

More than any Apple product in particular, however, it's the idea that customers might not be completely driven by prices -- that's what he's most pleased with. "We're surrounded by anonymous, poorly made objects. It's tempting to think it's because the people who use them don't care - just like the people who make them." Ive references that life-changing products, unimaginable before, are expensive - and that's part of the Apple premium. "We don't take so long, and make the way we make, for fiscal reasons."

"It's not just about aesthetics... Our success is a victory for purity, integrity - for giving a damn."

Apple's Jony Ive: 'We're surrounded by anonymous, poorly made objects'


PS, using a Dell Inspiron 6400 for 8 years and it is still going strong

 

[Siddhartht]

^I beg to differ about Logitech gaming products, being using G510 for 4 years and not a single problem xD.
I guess Apple does charge a slight premium ? I mean comparing Dell XPS 15 and Macbook Pro 15, Dell undercuts Apple by a substantial margin, even though the build quality is similar. And provided that Apple products are made by worlds largest OEM, they can tone down prices a little. I mean look at the discounts offered on Apple products nearing their end of sale period, for me, that reflects the true price of the product. (I mean Apple can reduce price like 30K in a day ? seriously, and for iPhones, 15K ? so the person who brought this products just a day before is like super unlucky, in short, the pricing scheme is not justifiable).

 

[theterminator]

After having hands on with Macs & coming from a decade of using Windows I found OS X harder to use, though I may be commenting early. On the other hand I am in love with iOS & Retina display. I too think Apple charges slightly premium for their products. I mean 64k for a 13" notebook with 128Gigs of space (i'm aware its SSD) . Already i'm running out of space with 1.5 TB .

 

[geek_rocker]

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I had to argue with a macbook user, that his macbook was fine with gaming. It's just such deeply ingrained bias against macs and gaming, that even if the situation changes (and it is, steam has a modest library of mac games), people, even macbook users, will continue to say "eh macbooks are not for gaming" for years. there are some fun casual games on mac app store which I wish were available on windows. eg: rc mini racers

some games you can play on macs without bootcamp include Limbo, Bioshock : Infinite, Tropico 4, Star Wars : Jedi Knight Academy, Psychonauts, Call of Duty : Black Ops, LOTR : War in the North, Star Wars : Knights of the Old Republic... point is, there is no dearth of good games to play natively

the content on the mac app store is awesome and with constant stream of new stuff, and price drops (to free also), at least better than the windows store.



get 13" macbook pro, or if you like 15"

There are some games available, but c'mon man, Macs aren't for gamers. You could easily buy an awesome Windows gaming laptop for the price and that will crush the Apple machine both in gaming performance and in terms of games available. Steam sales are a godsend btw.

 

[Anorion]

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Which laptop will you suggest for heavy gaming? why mac is not good for gaming?

All I'm saying is situation has improved tremendously in last few years, but no one, including macbook users are willing to shift perceptions about how much you can game on a mac. it's too deeply ingrained bias to change, that is what I'm pointing out, not saying a macbook is an alienware.

Steam for Mac has TF2, L4D2, Borderlands 2, CODMW, CSGO, Witcher 2...

so what is the hardware you can buy for a 15" or 13" macbook pro, what are the laptops, for example?

 

[seamon]

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so what is the hardware you can buy for a 15" or 13" macbook pro, what are the laptops, for example?

I didn't quite follow this line, mind re-stating it?

My friend bought Macbook air for playing GTA 4

 

[Siddhartht]

^MacBook Air for playing GTA IV, I hope he was ready for GTA V.
Macs are not for gaming and blah blah. Honestly, if you really want a laptop for gaming, go for the generic defacto big not so portable laptops. If you want moderate gaming, go for the super generic 840/750 range laptops. Seemingly their is always a misconception when people consider their laptops are meant to do whatever they wish. I mean if you really want to play games like GTA and all, Mac will do, any Windows laptop(not an Ultrabook) at 60K+ range will do fine. If you want portable quality gaming, get yourself a PS Vita or 3DS(which I prefer), and leave the heavy gaming stuff to desktop PC.

And Intel Iris on 13" pro won't cut it, you need at least 15" base pro model with Iris Pro for some low end moderate gaming.
As far as I know, they only reason one should buy Macs is stability provided by native software; and for the sake of it. UNIX. Enough said.(If the BSD team is paid the amount that Apple engineers are being paid, we would have the OS of century)

 

[Anorion]

After having hands on with Macs & coming from a decade of using Windows I found OS X harder to use, though I may be commenting early.

yes it is, there is a learning curve, especially as someone who is a long term windows user
but the exact same problem is there in windows 8 as well, which is very mac like in the way the human computer interaction is designed, with dependence on gestures and shortcuts and no obvious visual indications on screen. (off button, start menu, search...)

 

[tkin]

Windows based laptops and Macbooks are both just tools to get what you want done. When it comes down to it, both offer about the same amount of functionality. In fact, for me good quality laptops of both are same, one is not superior to the other, just superficially different.

That said, there is a lot of bias against apple products, and open undisguised hatred towards the company, that just is not healthy for tech enthusiasts.

Apple is not a luxury brand thing, like a Porsche , Ferrari branded tech devices, where they just slap on a logo and charge you more for the same thing.

Razer, Apple, Alienware, all offer amazing build and functionality for the price point. They have unique, patented features that are carefully thought through to serve some special purpose for which they were made. These devices are incredibly long lasting. A razer mouse will outlast a logitech gaming mouse, and survive more clicks. At some point, you cannot afford to buy cheap, short-lived... junk. Think of them as JBL, not Skullcandy.

A macbook is more like a Jaeger-LeCoultre than an Armani.

quote from Jony Ive explaining exactly why Apple products cost a premium



Apple's Jony Ive: 'We're surrounded by anonymous, poorly made objects'


PS, using a Dell Inspiron 6400 for 8 years and it is still going strong

Care to explain from where you pulled this data out of? Everywhere in the web people complain that its the EXACT opposite.

 

[ithehappy]

Care to explain from where you pulled this data out of? Everywhere in the web people complain that its the EXACT opposite.

Lol, he's definitely a fanboy of Razer and all those crap, even Razer themselves will be astonished and ridiculed by that statement. You should've figured that out.
There was a reason why I didn't reply, and won't in future.

 

[Anorion]

eh G9 vs DeathAdder. most reviews that time went for DeathAdder, if im not wrong.
heavily off topic anyway, you guys brought up razer, not me. understand the meaning, and stop hating apple

 

[tkin]

eh G9 vs DeathAdder. most reviews that time went for DeathAdder, if im not wrong.
heavily off topic anyway, you guys brought up razer, not me. understand the meaning, and stop hating apple

G500 vs Deathadder. My 1.5yrs old deathadder is squawking as I write this, the G500 lasted a good 2.5yrs, then again razer has only 1yr warranty vs 3yrs for logitech in India.

 

[Anorion]

are those mice worth the price?

 

[tkin]

are those mice worth the price?

It used to be when G500 went for 3k, now a days the price make no sense. The free scroll option on Logitech mice alone commanded the extra premium. Plus on the fly DPI change is useful in a lot of games(games that have tanks), but its all going O/T.

 

[ithehappy]

There is no comparison between Logitech and Razer. So stop that meaningless argument. There is a reason why people hate Apple too, so the same way it can be said that stop praising Apple. I can show dozen reasons for the hatred, show me one for the praise. If this were an American forum I would not give a ****, but it's just sad to see in an Indian community.

 

[Anorion]

American, Indian, Alien, Velociraptor, Cat... all can use macbooks, their design is universal

At least Dell and Apple offer similar models in US and India. HP, Lenovo, Acer don't even do that (dumping maybe?) Sony has been "evolving away from the laptop and desktop business" in USA, in India the Vaio series is still "Pushing the envelope of innovation and technology".

someone was saying Dell is good alternative. Yes it is, actually, I agree. Better to buy a couple of spare batteries though, as these will go kaput, and these batteries will be expensive to get later on, once the model has stopped being manufactured.

Extremely stupid, junk and overpriced crap, Apple products (ALL OF THEM), Beats headphones, Razer peripherals.

actually agree to some of that, like Razer audio peripherals.

point is there was some unique, incredibly convinient features, that are worth the premium. For many even one of these features is enough to justify the cost. G9/DeathAdder/SideWinder costs in thousands. Reconnect Raumb costs in hundreds.

Apple is hated for a single reason, and that reason is price. All the other reasons follow from that one point.