Apple Announces iPhone 2.0 Software Beta

[aryayush]

@iMav,
They do know that you didn't purchase it from an authorised reseller. They just don't care. As long as it's an original iPod, you still bought it and the profit (one way or the other) went to Apple. Therefore, they provide you service.

They know that it's from the gray market and they can deny you service if you don't produce the bill. They just choose not to.

 

[goobimama]

did I forget to mention that I am talking about music videos which run and take half the screen, while the remaining half is for the doccument viewer ? And its going to be in a variety of formats, like FLV, Theora, VP7, etc(all stamp sized)

How could I miss this one! This is the stupidest use of a 3.5" device ever! Also, if you are looking for any support for all those formats, get Linux

 

[iMav]

@iMav,
They do know that you didn't purchase it from an authorised reseller. They just don't care. As long as it's an original iPod, you still bought it and the profit (one way or the other) went to Apple. Therefore, they provide you service.

They know that it's from the gray market and they can deny you service if you don't produce the bill. They just choose not to.

if ur talking abt the ipod then dude i can nothing but do this at u .... can u tell me how does apple come to know abt that .... i own a with bill purchased ipod and iv got 4 guys who own a gray market purchased ipod so no matter how big a fan of apple u are or how much low ur back bends in respect to steve jobs dont just shoot blanks

 

[aryayush]

Umm... "shooting blanks" does not mean what you think it means.

Secondly, what does your owning a "with bill purchased ipod" and "your having 4 guys who own a gray market purchased ipod" (you never told us you had kids) have to do with what I said?

Instead of posting those cheap shots, you could have tried to actually explain what you're disagreeing on, you know.

 

[iMav]

ignoring the rest of the blabber u posted ....

please tell me how do u think apple comes to know which ipod was purchased from the gray market and which was purchased with a bill

 

[aryayush]

If you don't produce a bill, it is from the gray market. If you do, it's not.

The point is that they don't ask for it, i.e. they don't care.

However, unlike the iPod, the iPhone will be sold on a per-country basis and it will involve the carrier as well, so the rules might be different in that case.

I'm, of course, saying "might", because I've no way of knowing what exactly is supposed to happen.

 

[iMav]

If you don't produce a bill, it is from the gray market. If you do, it's not.

i have the bill and not produced it on purpose even after the guy asking for it with the lamest possible excuse of having it lost whereas i did not have it with me at that time, which has made me to believe that their after sales is not based on the bill but on the online registration

PS: i have no clue why are we discussing this

 

[ring_wraith]

Umm... "shooting blanks" does not mean what you think it means.

Secondly, what does your owning a "with bill purchased ipod" and "your having 4 guys who own a gray market purchased ipod" (you never told us you had kids) have to do with what I said?

Instead of posting those cheap shots, you could have tried to actually explain what you're disagreeing on, you know.

I do... therefore, ROFL!

Anyway, there is no chance that you will get an iPhone serviced in India. Simply because servicing iPhones would be like begging you to buy it from the Gray Market, which is hardly good company policy.

 

[iMav]

from what i know "shooting blanks"

1. shooting with guns that have fake bullets
2. saying things that have no credibility and have been said in an attempt to make believe
3. <u fill ur meaning here>

 

[goobimama]

@ring_wraith: My Apple store said they wouldn't service the iPhone bought from the US even after it is introduced in India. To service foreign customers who have come on vacation, they would probably ask for passport to check origin. Not sure if they are going to be rigidly followed, but this is what precautions have been put in place. I wonder if a US iPhone can be serviced in UK...

 

[aryayush]

from what i know "shooting blanks"

1. shooting with guns that have fake bullets
2. saying things that have no credibility and have been said in an attempt to make believe
3. <u fill ur meaning here>

The actual meaning is not knowing the answer to something. For example, "He seemed pretty intelligent from the way he spoke but when asked to describe the term "republic", he just kept shooting blanks, which leads me to believe that he might not be that intelligent after all."

Anyway, there is no chance that you will get an iPhone serviced in India. Simply because servicing iPhones would be like begging you to buy it from the Gray Market, which is hardly good company policy.

We aren't talking about right now. I mean, it is obvious that they won't support it in India if someone broke their iPhone today. But when they officially bring it to India, will all these unlocked iPhones be supported if they are restored using iTunes? That's the question...

 

[iMav]

coming back to the topic:
iPhone 2.0 Unlocked with Modified Beta Firmware, Runs Any Application

According to the Dev Team, the custom 2.0 firmware (technically, 1.2.0,) is now up and running without problems in many of their iPhones, running unsigned applications without a single problem. However, current Installer.app applications need to be changed: "they changed lots of the API, a lot. We will see how much has to be changed to the Toolchain [the previous development tool for iPhone independent developers] to still work after 2.0."

 

[goobimama]

This is the most awesomest of newses! Woohoo! I told you aayush, the things gonna be cracked.

 

[aryayush]

Dude, I knew that. I never said that wouldn't crack the firmware.

What I'm saying is that it probably might not be possible to get those paid applications for free...

 

[preshit.net]

Guess what. The 2.0 Beta firmware has already been cracked. Not just jailbreaked, but even Unlocked.

 

[MetalheadGautham]

^^@darky:
anything and everything that has captured the intrests of hackers can be cracked.
there is no such thing as total crack proof security.
even Valve can be fooled.

 

[goobimama]

The ability to run jailbroken apps with paid apps is really neat.

 

[Tanmay]

Too bad they are not gonna release it Anyone knows the complete change log of 2.0 ?

 

[aryayush]

Hey, did you watch the event?

LOL! You expect a detailed change log from, of all companies, Apple? And that too for an unreleased piece of software? For the iPhone? They don't even give details for their software updates for Mac OS X.

 

[ring_wraith]

Okay, from the sitcom FRIENDS, "shooting blanks" means erm... awkward really...

It means attempting to get your wife pregnant, and failing.

to those of you who know:
Chandler to Joey : "we've [we as in him and monica] done it so many times, I just keep shooting blanks"

and about the iPhone thing, I don't see why they wouldn't after it is launched