AMD Launches the Embedded G-Series SoC Platform

vickybat

I am the night...I am...
Apart from PS4, this is another AMD announcement i'm really excited about.

The pricing is amazing and irresistible and we might see some incredibly priced convertibles and ultrabooks, all thanks to AMD.
Lets hope it gets some good manufacturing partners.

AMD Launches the Embedded G-Series SoC Platform
 
Even Intel has announced that it will make an integrated DRAM processor whicl will only be available soldered on the motherboard and now we have a similar news from AMD. Is this the beginning of end of sockets?

Anyways, the power consumption is really low from AMD's standards.
 

coderunknown

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correct me if i am wrong but AFAIK, G-series aka embedded processors are not aimed at laptops or even tablets. they are for medical instruments, slot machine, casino etc. For netbooks they have E-series. Or is AMD trying to take on Intel Ultrabook with cheaper ultraportables powered by G-series APU?

Even Intel has announced that it will make an integrated DRAM processor whicl will only be available soldered on the motherboard and now we have a similar news from AMD. Is this the beginning of end of sockets?

you mean L4 cache? or Intel really announced processor with integrated DRAM? it is because anything integrated into the processor will cost a bomb. and will ultimately turn it into a no-sell item.

ah i was right.
The platform supports Windows
Embedded 8 and Linux and is
designed for a wide array of
embedded applications such as
industrial control, digital signage,
electronic gaming systems, SMB
storage, IP-TV, medical and
network appliances, and set-top
boxes.
thankfully these processor will not be available in laptops. Else if i have to say i own a laptop with some AMD GX4310AB then they'll kill themselves simply by laughing.
 
...you mean L4 cache? or Intel really announced processor with integrated DRAM? it is because anything integrated into the processor will cost a bomb. and will ultimately turn it into a no-sell item...
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It is not being developed specifically for being an L4 cache, but yes it will also act as an L4 cache.
 
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vickybat

vickybat

I am the night...I am...
correct me if i am wrong but AFAIK, G-series aka embedded processors are not aimed at laptops or even tablets. they are for medical instruments, slot machine, casino etc. For netbooks they have E-series. Or is AMD trying to take on Intel Ultrabook with cheaper ultraportables powered by G-series APU?



you mean L4 cache? or Intel really announced processor with integrated DRAM? it is because anything integrated into the processor will cost a bomb. and will ultimately turn it into a no-sell item.

ah i was right.

thankfully these processor will not be available in laptops. Else if i have to say i own a laptop with some AMD GX4310AB then they'll kill themselves simply by laughing.

Oh man, i guess i got it all wrong. Sam aren't these for ultrabook and convertibles? Is it wrong to say that these chips belong to the kabini platform?
 

coderunknown

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Oh man, i guess i got it all wrong. Sam aren't these for ultrabook and convertibles? Is it wrong to say that these chips belong to the kabini platform?

Don't think so. for Ultraportables (not ultrabook) will use 19-25W APUs. I don't think it'll fall under any kind of platform because consumers can't buy it anyway but both Kabini and embedded G-series will use the Jaguar core.

*cdn.itproportal.com/photos/amd_g-series_embedded_solutions_contentfullwidth.jpg

G-series processor. found something odd? Answer in the spoiler below

*www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2013/04/amd-gseries-lead.jpg

AMD reveals G-Series X embedded chips, drops a little ARM-powered bombshell.

in short:
X ---> X86
A ---> ARM (most probable chance)
 
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vickybat

vickybat

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^^ Yeah mate i had seen that before. You see AMD has obtained a product licence from ARM just like samsung and others but not an architectural license like nvidia or qualcomm.

Amd will use vanilla arm processors but cannot modify it internally or use their resources to build a custom architecture. Nvidia has modified the jean grey platform with custom A9 cores dubbed as A9+. It has an improved prediction logic long with others.

But good to see AMD jumping on the arm bandwagon. Expect microservers from amd in both x86 and arm flavors. Jaguar seems like a full proof solution in this market.

And my bad, i was confused with ultrabook and ultraportable terminologies. The slimline version of a netbook is dubbed as ultraportable right?
 

coderunknown

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Nvidia has modified the jean grey platform with custom A9 cores dubbed as A9+. It has an improved prediction logic long with others.

didn't know that. TFS ;)

But good to see AMD jumping on the arm bandwagon. Expect microservers from amd in both x86 and arm flavors. Jaguar seems like a full proof solution in this market.

so ARM is only for microserver for the time being. i mean there won't be any X86-ARM combo chip anytime soon. architecture and IS is different so they are not compatible anyway.

The slimline version of a netbook is dubbed as ultraportable right?

slim notebook are ultaportables. there is clearly no exact line to say one is ultraportable, another is not (reason Intel gave strict specs for Ultrabook). but basically sub 2kg laptops are ultraportables.
 
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vickybat

vickybat

I am the night...I am...
didn't know that. TFS ;)

You're welcome. :)



so ARM is only for microserver for the time being. i mean there won't be any X86-ARM combo chip anytime soon. architecture and IS is different so they are not compatible anyway.

From AMD's perspective, yes. AMD isn't going to integrate x86 and ARM anytime soon coz as of now, x86 instructions cannot be ported to arm or vice versa. You need some sort of a library to use arm specifically completely ignoring x86, if both chips are combined.

As of now, only nvidia has plans of doing so with help of its cuda platform. Cuda has been programmed for ARM instructions. That means ARM cores can now run cuda along with tesla/quadro and geforce. NVIDIA calls it CARMA (Cuda in ARM Architecture). According to nvidia, ARM's upcoming 64 bit A5x cores are going to find its place in the upcoming MAXWELL gpu's. They will handle gpu compute using cuda and will be the fundamental compute resources leaving rendering part to the gpu. Nvidia also has announced project denver based Soc's that has arm 64bit cpu's with maxwell gpu's be targeted towards tablets, smartphones and convertibles. They will also make their way into servers and HPC computing.

Nvidia: Next-Generation Maxwell Architecture Will Break New Grounds - X-bit labs

NVIDIA CUDA for ARM: Removing X86 From GPU Computing - Bright Side Of News*



These are early dev kits

MEET

They have already planned a lot of things after gaining the architectural license. ARM is going to be a huge player.

Nvidia and ARM: It's a parallel, parallel, parallel world
Big changes coming to the CUDA programming model


Project Denver Nvidia's major custom 64 bit ARM architecture.

Nvidia gets ARM architectural license, will integrate GPUs


Little off-topic but interesting ARM related news. :)


slim notebook are ultaportables. there is clearly no exact line to say one is ultraportable, another is not (reason Intel gave strict specs for Ultrabook). but basically sub 2kg laptops are ultraportables.

Ok got it mate. :)
 

coderunknown

Retired Forum Mod
From AMD's perspective, yes. AMD isn't going to integrate x86 and ARM anytime soon coz as of now, x86 instructions cannot be ported to arm or vice versa. You need some sort of a library to use arm specifically completely ignoring x86, if both chips are combined.

As of now, only nvidia has plans of doing so with help of its cuda platform. Cuda has been programmed for ARM instructions. That means ARM cores can now run cuda along with tesla/quadro and geforce. NVIDIA calls it CARMA (Cuda in ARM Architecture). According to nvidia, ARM's upcoming 64 bit A5x cores are going to find its place in the upcoming MAXWELL gpu's. They will handle gpu compute using cuda and will be the fundamental compute resources leaving rendering part to the gpu. Nvidia also has announced project denver based Soc's that has arm 64bit cpu's with maxwell gpu's be targeted towards tablets, smartphones and convertibles. They will also make their way into servers and HPC computing.

Nvidia: Next-Generation Maxwell Architecture Will Break New Grounds - X-bit labs

NVIDIA CUDA for ARM: Removing X86 From GPU Computing - Bright Side Of News*



These are early dev kits

MEET

They have already planned a lot of things after gaining the architectural license. ARM is going to be a huge player.

Nvidia and ARM: It's a parallel, parallel, parallel world
Big changes coming to the CUDA programming model


Project Denver Nvidia's major custom 64 bit ARM architecture.

Nvidia gets ARM architectural license, will integrate GPUs


Little off-topic but interesting ARM related news. :)

OH MAN !!! so many links. i have heard about Denver but too lazy to read. will be a busy sunday.
 
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