Which GTX 1650 to buy ?

Which GTX 1650 is best ?

  • Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1650 OC 4 GB GDDR5 Graphic Card (GV-N1650OC-4GD) - ₹12,599.00. (2 fans)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • MSI GeForce GTX 1650 Ventus XS 4G OC GDDR5 Gaming Graphic Card - ₹13,395.00 (2 fans)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1650 OC Edition 4GB GDDR5 128-bit Gaming Graphics Card (ZT-T16500F-10L) - ₹12,485.

    Votes: 4 100.0%

  • Total voters
    4

chris

In the zone
I want to buy a GTX 1650 graphics card. There are few models available on Amazon for similar price. Can anyone recommend which GPU model to go with ?

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1650 OC 4 GB GDDR5 Graphic Card (GV-N1650OC-4GD) - ₹12,599.00. (2 fans)

MSI GeForce GTX 1650 Ventus XS 4G OC GDDR5 Gaming Graphic Card - ₹13,395.00 (2 fans)

ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1650 OC Edition 4GB GDDR5 128-bit Gaming Graphics Card (ZT-T16500F-10L) - ₹12,485.00 (1 fan)
 

Randy_Marsh

Youngling
I want to buy a GTX 1650 graphics card. There are few models available on Amazon for similar price. Can anyone recommend which GPU model to go with ?

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1650 OC 4 GB GDDR5 Graphic Card (GV-N1650OC-4GD) - ₹12,599.00. (2 fans)

MSI GeForce GTX 1650 Ventus XS 4G OC GDDR5 Gaming Graphic Card - ₹13,395.00 (2 fans)

ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1650 OC Edition 4GB GDDR5 128-bit Gaming Graphics Card (ZT-T16500F-10L) - ₹12,485.00 (1 fan)

No. of fans doesn't matter. More no. of fans hardly makes any difference in GPU temps. Generally multiple fans are installed to make the card look more "cool".
Zotac is the best choice among the mentioned options, given 5 year warranty. But if you are into looks, then it's a different story.
 

chimera201

Wise Old Owl
No. of fans doesn't matter. More no. of fans hardly makes any difference in GPU temps. Generally multiple fans are installed to make the card look more "cool".

That's not true. The reason why you don't see difference in temps is because those cards are clocked higher. A few MHz increase in clock speeds will increase the temps exponentially. And most reviewers don't check the VRM temps.

ZOTAC ZT-T16500F-10L: 1695 MHz
Gigabyte GV-N1650OC-4GD: 1710 MHz
MSI GTX 1650 VENTUS XS 4G OC: 1740 MHz
 
I want to buy a GTX 1650 graphics card. There are few models available on Amazon for similar price. Can anyone recommend which GPU model to go with ?

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1650 OC 4 GB GDDR5 Graphic Card (GV-N1650OC-4GD) - ₹12,599.00. (2 fans)

MSI GeForce GTX 1650 Ventus XS 4G OC GDDR5 Gaming Graphic Card - ₹13,395.00 (2 fans)

ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1650 OC Edition 4GB GDDR5 128-bit Gaming Graphics Card (ZT-T16500F-10L) - ₹12,485.00 (1 fan)
None, my choice would be Zotac 1060 3GB. I hope you aren't planning to use it for anything above 1080p 60fps.

Get RX570, costs ~13.5k or GTX 1060 3GB for 13k or much better option is RX580 at 15.5k
Buy ASUS ROG Strix Gaming RX 570 OC ROG-STRIX-RX570-O4G-GAMING at Lowest Price in India - mdcomputers.in
*www.amazon.in/Zotac-GeForce-GTX106...570&qid=1562079357&refresh=1&s=gateway&sr=8-3
Buy Sapphire RX 580 Pulse OC 4GB GDDR5 (11265-32-20G) at Lowest Price in India - mdcomputers.in

Reason:
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Randy_Marsh

Youngling
That's not true. The reason why you don't see difference in temps is because those cards are clocked higher. A few MHz increase in clock speeds will increase the temps exponentially. And most reviewers don't check the VRM temps.
Any articles/youtube video links please?
 

chimera201

Wise Old Owl
Any articles/youtube video links please?

Single fan GPU:
Palit GeForce GTX 1650 StormX OC 4 GB Review

Dual fan GPU
ASUS GeForce GTX 1650 STRIX OC 4 GB Review

2% faster than Palit GPU in comparison to RX 570
*tpucdn.com/review/palit-geforce-gtx-1650-stormx/images/relative-performance_1920-1080.png *tpucdn.com/review/asus-geforce-gtx-1650-strix-oc/images/relative-performance_1920-1080.png

4°C cooler and 6dBA quieter
*i.postimg.cc/vH90k9Td/Capture.png
 

Randy_Marsh

Youngling
@chimera201 I am surely missing out the stated "exponential" differences in the example you've given. These differences can easily be because of environmental/design factors. Even two exactly same graphics cards can give such results when compared to each other. Even if it is because of the extra fan, these figures make "hardly" any difference.

If you like or forced to buy a small form factor card, grab a 1 fan card. If you like beefier one, get 2 fans card.
If you are rich, get a 3 fan card like strix.
 

chimera201

Wise Old Owl
@chimera201 I am surely missing out the stated "exponential" differences in the example you've given. These differences can easily be because of environmental/design factors. Even two exactly same graphics cards can give such results when compared to each other. Even if it is because of the extra fan, these figures make "hardly" any difference.

The problem is that the GPU automatically downclocks to counter the temp increase so you won't see an exponential increase (because if it did the card will be dead).

*i.postimg.cc/W4wX9P9L/Capture.png

You can see above when the temp was like 40C, the card clocked to 1935 MHz upon load, then temperature started rising exponentially so the GPU gradually downclocked to 1845MHz to keep the temps down.

And those comparisons are by the same reviewer on the same config at the same ambient temps. And it's not just one case you will find the same comparisons hold true for any single card vs dual card setup. The problem is AIB partners will never send their low end models to hardcore reviewers because they know full well it's not great and it will get thrashed in reviews. It is hard to find reviews of single fan GPUs by expert reviewers and if there is it will be of low power consuming cards like 1650, that doesn't reach the throttle limit of 79-82C.
 

Randy_Marsh

Youngling
@chimera201 Yes, every GPU downclocks (atleast nvidia) depending upon several factors. Even the other card with 2 fans (ASUS GeForce GTX 1650 STRIX OC 4 GB Review) downclocked to some extent. But its impact on FPS during gaming hardly matters.
It is not hard to find reviews of single fan GPU's though. :) Please give "Tech Deals" channel a try. This guy compares 1 fan, 2 fans, 3 fans models of same chipset.
RTX 2060 6 cards tested:
GTX 1660:

He is by far the best reviewer of graphics card that I've seen on youtube.
 

chimera201

Wise Old Owl
@chimera201 Yes, every GPU downclocks (atleast nvidia) depending upon several factors. Even the other card with 2 fans (ASUS GeForce GTX 1650 STRIX OC 4 GB Review) downclocked to some extent. But its impact on FPS during gaming hardly matters.
It is not hard to find reviews of single fan GPU's though. :) Please give "Tech Deals" channel a try. This guy compares 1 fan, 2 fans, 3 fans models of same chipset.
RTX 2060 6 cards tested:
GTX 1660:

He is by far the best reviewer of graphics card that I've seen on youtube.

Nah the best reviewer is probably toms-hardware. But they don't receive cards to review because GPU board partners don't want their GPUs disassembled and thrashed. This guy did not even disassemble the GPU. Did only one benchmark of SOTR (that too only DX12). And rounded off the results.

tomshardware even checks the power consumed at the PCIe slot separately (remember RX 480?):

Power Consumption: GeForce RTX 2060 Super - GeForce RTX 2060 and 2070 Super Review: Nvidia Preemptively Strikes Navi
*img.purch.com/nvidia-super-power-and-environmental/o/aHR0cDovL21lZGlhLmJlc3RvZm1pY3JvLmNvbS9EL1ovODQ0MTk5L29yaWdpbmFsLzIwNjAtTWV0cm8tQ2hhcnQucG5n
 
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chris

In the zone
Thanks everyone for the reply and benchmark results. I may go with Zotac as it offers 5 year warrenty.

@anupam_pb i considered AMD card, but on Ubuntu/Linux, AMD drivers are not that good yet, so NVIDIA is better choice. Also i want to keep my power consumption low, that is one reason i don't go for GTX 1060, few days ago GTX 1060 3 GB was selling below GTX 1650, now price went up to ₹17,899, that is same price as 6 GB card, look like they sold out or something.
 
Thanks everyone for the reply and benchmark results. I may go with Zotac as it offers 5 year warrenty.

@anupam_pb i considered AMD card, but on Ubuntu/Linux, AMD drivers are not that good yet, so NVIDIA is better choice. Also i want to keep my power consumption low, that is one reason i don't go for GTX 1060, few days ago GTX 1060 3 GB was selling below GTX 1650, now price went up to ₹17,899, that is same price as 6 GB card, look like they sold out or something.
1060 3GB takes just 50W more (75W vs 120W), which isn't a lot. I agree AMD takes a lot more in comparison (i think 180W for RX570), can't comment on driver optimizations for Linux as those are primarily gaming GPUs & Linux isn't good for gaming. There's a reason why we ask people to fill the form.

I still see the Zotac 1060 3GB for 13k on Amazon.
 

quicky008

Technomancer
if you dont mind buying used,you can get used 1060 6gb cards for pretty competitive prices nowadays.A few days back,i saw someone offering some 6gb 1060s for around 11k and a 1070 for only 17k on fb marketplace! the only caveat was that they only had about a year or 2's worth of warranty left.
 
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