buying new pc budget 30k help plz

[Rockstar11]

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: Mid Range Gaming PC. Playing HD Movies. 3D Videos.

right now i dont want to play latest game. i want to starting gaming again with. GTA Series. POP Series.

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: 30k to 35k

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: No

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Windows 7 - 8

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: 500GB ( planing to buy WD Caviar Blue 500 GB Desktop Internal Hard Drive)

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans: 23 Inch Full HD PASSIVE 3D HDMI LED monitor (Planing to buy LG Passive 3D cinema LG 23 inch LED - D2342P Monitor

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: Keyboard - Mouse - Dvd drive. Sound Card . Graphic Card

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: in this week

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans:assembler

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: Gujarat - buying locally if price is low on net i will buy online.

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: my friend suggest me this config.

RAM - Corsair Vengeance DDR3 4 GB (1 x 4 GB) PC RAM

Monitor - LG 3D cinema LG 23 inch LED - D2342P Monitor (Black)

WD Caviar Blue 500 GB Desktop Internal Hard Drive

Intel/Gigabyte Intel Pentium Processor G630 and Gigabyte GA-H61M-S2P Motherboar Combo Motherboard


i have creative 5.1 sound blaster platinum audigy sound card ex and Xfx Geforce 7300le graphic card.
so onboard sound and graphic is better or i have to install this card?

 

[Naxal]

Wow.. The Display alone will eat up more than half the budget. I doubt if the 7300LE can pull that display resolution.

#	Component	Model	Price	Comment/Link
1	Processor	Intel Pentium G645 (Dual Core)	Rs. 3500/-
2	Motherboard	Intel DH61HO	Rs. 3000/-
3	RAM	G.Skill / Corsair value Series 4GB DDR-III 1333 MHz	Rs. 1100/-
4	HDD	WB Blue 500 GB	Rs. 3400/-
5	Cabinet + PSU	iBall	Rs. 1500/-
6	Monitor	Your LG Display	Rs. 16500/-
9	Total	If purchased from locally (10/15% more if from online )	Rs. 30k

But I seriously doubt if that Display can be pulled by this 7300LE GPU you are planning to use. I wonder, may be the onboard iGP of Intel would be stronger than that card

 

[Rockstar11]

Wow.. The Display alone will eat up more than half the budget. I doubt if the 7300LE can pull that display resolution.

#	Component	Model	Price	Comment/Link
1	Processor	Intel Pentium G645 (Dual Core)	Rs. 3500/-
2	Motherboard	Intel DH61HO	Rs. 3000/-
3	RAM	G.Skill / Corsair value Series 4GB DDR-III 1333 MHz	Rs. 1100/-
4	HDD	WB Blue 500 GB	Rs. 3400/-
5	Cabinet + PSU	iBall	Rs. 1500/-
6	Monitor	Your LG Display	Rs. 16500/-
9	Total	If purchased from locally (10/15% more if from online )	Rs. 30k

But I seriously doubt if that Display can be pulled by this 7300LE GPU you are planning to use. I wonder, may be the onboard iGP of Intel would be stronger than that card

thank you.. i also thinking onboard igp is more strong than my external 7300le graphic card

what about Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H Motherboard??

 

[Naxal]

what about Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H Motherboard??

It will extend your budget. and for the mentioned processor with no OC need, i dont think you need more than than unless in very near future (in few months) you plan to upgrade to a more powerful Core i5 type processor of same socket

 

[Chaitanya]

But does intel HD graphics support 3D??

AFAIK you will be needing atleast GT520/GT610 for 3D...
Other members are requested to throw some light on it

 

[Naxal]

But does intel HD graphics support 3D??

AFAIK you will be needing atleast GT520/GT610 for 3D...
Other members are requested to throw some light on it

No, I too dont think neither the iGP of G645 nor the 7300LE can actually run the display and its features properly

I said, I guess the Intel iGP in G645 is stringer than 7300LE

 

[draco21]

Dude you need better graphics card for using 3D features of your monitor.
also you wont enjoy passive 3D very much......[i dont]

 

[Rockstar11]

It will extend your budget. and for the mentioned processor with no OC need, i dont think you need more than than unless in very near future (in few months) you plan to upgrade to a more powerful Core i5 type processor of same socket

how much? extend budget?

 

[Naxal]

how much? extend budget?

By around Rs. 1.5k / 1.8k i guess..

Only benefit over H61 is USB 3.0 ports and SATA 6.0

Now unless you are using a SSD, SATA6.0 wont make much difference and unless you are with higher end processor, like i5, the B75 chipset wont offer real benefit with G645 either

So will you spend ??

Better to think spending more to accommodate an AMD A10 APU to use the fullest of your selected display

 

[Rockstar11]

But does intel HD graphics support 3D??

AFAIK you will be needing atleast GT520/GT610 for 3D...
Other members are requested to throw some light on it

but its passive 3d.
not active 3d (sorry i dont have much idea in 3D)

By around Rs. 1.5k / 1.8k i guess..

Only benefit over H61 is USB 3.0 ports and SATA 6.0

Now unless you are using a SSD, SATA6.0 wont make much difference and unless you are with higher end processor, like i5, the B75 chipset wont offer real benefit with G645 either

So will you spend ??

Better to think spending more to accommodate an AMD A10 APU to use the fullest of your selected display

if i buy AMD A10-5800K which motherboard i need??

and how much i have to spend more ?
total budget of pc?

 

[The Incinerator]

AMD A10-5800K - Rs 8400
ASUS F2A85-M-LE MOTHERBOARD - Rs 5750

 

[Naxal]

^^^
another option is that one can also add a GPU too , like ATI HD 6670 1GB GDDR5 @ Rs. 5k over the intel config

 

[Cilus]

Buddy, the LG Monitor mentioned here is a great VFM Monitor for watching 3D content (More) and Gaming (Little less). You won't find any Active 3D display below 21K, you need to spend 22.5K to get a decent Active 3D Display (120 Hz refresh rate) and then you need to spend another 7K to get Active 3D Polarized Glasses.

In Active 3D display, you are shown 2 images within 1/60 seconds,each of which having the same resolution of the Display's max supported resolution which is 1920X1080 for full HD display, one for your right eye and one for your left eye, each having duration of 1/120 sec. The powered Polarized glass which you're wearing will mix those images for you and your brain will see it as a 3D object having depth.

But passive 3D displays run at 60 Hz and they use little different policy. For a 1920X1080 Monitor you have 1080 horizontal scan lines, each of them consisting of 1920 pixels. Now if you number the horizontal scan likes 1, 2, 3,.........,100, 101, 102, 103........., 1079, 1080, you will have 540 even horizontal(2, 4, 6, 8, 10.....1080) scanlines and 540 odd scan lines (1, 3, 5, 7,.....1079). Now in a passive 3D display which is capable of showing only 1 image at 1/60 sec (60 Hz refresh rate), draws the scanlines in pair, one for your left eye and one for your right eye. So in our example, the scan line 1 will be rendered for your Left eye and the same thing will be rendered for your right eye in the Scan Line 2. So the pairing will be left-right for same pixels for these pairs:- (1,2), (3,4), (5,6).......,(1079,1080). Each of the scan line pair will have same pixel information but one for left eye and one for right eye. As a result your brain will hallucinate the 3D effect. But here point to be noted, since Pairs of Scan Lines are showing same information, just rendered differently for left and right eye, the effective resolution for 3D content will be 1920X540

The LG Monitor uses TriDef 3D software for AMD HD3D technology and offers great level of tweaks. It also provide good and regular software update which provides the already tested Game profiles for 3D. So whenever you will start a game from Tridef launcher, if the game profile is present in its database, will be automatically applied. You can also tweak it as per your preference on the fly.

 

[Rockstar11]

Buddy, the LG Monitor mentioned here is a great VFM Monitor for watching 3D content (More) and Gaming (Little less). You won't find any Active 3D display below 21K, you need to spend 22.5K to get a decent Active 3D Display (120 Hz refresh rate) and then you need to spend another 7K to get Active 3D Polarized Glasses.

In Active 3D display, you are shown 2 images within 1/60 seconds,each of which having the same resolution of the Display's max supported resolution which is 1920X1080 for full HD display, one for your right eye and one for your left eye, each having duration of 1/120 sec. The powered Polarized glass which you're wearing will mix those images for you and your brain will see it as a 3D object having depth.

But passive 3D displays run at 60 Hz and they use little different policy. For a 1920X1080 Monitor you have 1080 horizontal scan lines, each of them consisting of 1920 pixels. Now if you number the horizontal scan likes 1, 2, 3,.........,100, 101, 102, 103........., 1079, 1080, you will have 540 even horizontal(2, 4, 6, 8, 10.....1080) scanlines and 540 odd scan lines (1, 3, 5, 7,.....1079). Now in a passive 3D display which is capable of showing only 1 image at 1/60 sec (60 Hz refresh rate), draws the scanlines in pair, one for your left eye and one for your right eye. So in our example, the scan line 1 will be rendered for your Left eye and the same thing will be rendered for your right eye in the Scan Line 2. So the pairing will be left-right for same pixels for these pairs:- (1,2), (3,4), (5,6).......,(1079,1080). Each of the scan line pair will have same pixel information but one for left eye and one for right eye. As a result your brain will hallucinate the 3D effect. But here point to be noted, since Pairs of Scan Lines are showing same information, just rendered differently for left and right eye, the effective resolution for 3D content will be 1920X540

The LG Monitor uses TriDef 3D software for AMD HD3D technology and offers great level of tweaks. It also provide good and regular software update which provides the already tested Game profiles for 3D. So whenever you will start a game from Tridef launcher, if the game profile is present in its database, will be automatically applied. You can also tweak it as per your preference on the fly.

thanks for the info..

so Intel config are good for LG 3D monitor? or i have to go for AMD Config?

Dude you need better graphics card for using 3D features of your monitor.
also you wont enjoy passive 3D very much......[i dont]

are using passive 3d monitor?

AMD A10-5800K - Rs 8400
ASUS F2A85-M-LE MOTHERBOARD - Rs 5750

what about AMD 3.6 GHz AM3+ FX4100 Processor ?? Rs. 6046

 

[skeletor]

AMD A10-5800K - Rs 8400
ASUS F2A85-M-LE MOTHERBOARD - Rs 5750

My suggestion is to go for this CPU + Mobo combo.

what about AMD 3.6 GHz AM3+ FX4100 Processor ?? Rs. 6046

A10-5800K's processor is faster than FX-4100.

A10-5800K is actually an APU. CPU and GPU in one chip. Its GPU is also very very fast. You don't need to buy a discrete graphic card with it.

It is like more than 10 times faster than your XFX 7300 LE as far as graphics are concerned. It is going to be fine for your gaming needs.

Processor is equal to Core i3 3rd gen. If you go with FX-4100, then you need to buy a graphic card. Same with i3 as Intel's built-in GPU is slow.

A10-5800K is the perfect balance.

 

[Rockstar11]

^^^
another option is that one can also add a GPU too , like ATI HD 6670 1GB GDDR5 @ Rs. 5k over the intel config

thanks
but price is almost same both

amd pc = 36650
intel pc = 35.000 (with ATI HD 6670 1GB GDDR5 external graphic card)

so which is better for lg 3d monitor?


so my Xfx Geforce 7300le graphic card ab kisi kaam ka nahi raha... and i have to extend pc budget 30k to 36k

 

[Cilus]

Intel PC with which Processor? Don't forget, G645 from Intel is a Dual Core Processor without HT support. There are games like Far Cry 3 where these Pentium Dual Core Processors have already started to show their limitations....it is almost 20 FPS lower when same Graphics card HD 7970 was used, than Core i3.
On the other hand, A10-5800K is a Quad Core Processor and offers far better performance, almost equal to i3 3220 in gaming and better in multi-threaded applications.

 

[Rockstar11]

Intel PC with which Processor? Don't forget, G645 from Intel is a Dual Core Processor without HT support. There are games like Far Cry 3 where these Pentium Dual Core Processors have already started to show their limitations....it is almost 20 FPS lower when same Graphics card HD 7970 was used, than Core i3.
On the other hand, A10-5800K is a Quad Core Processor and offers far better performance, almost equal to i3 3220 in gaming and better in multi-threaded applications.

Intel Pentium G645 (Dual Core)

 

[The Incinerator]

In your scheme of things and budget stick to an AMD APU based system.

 

[Rockstar11]

My suggestion is to go for this CPU + Mobo combo.


A10-5800K's processor is faster than FX-4100.

A10-5800K is actually an APU. CPU and GPU in one chip. Its GPU is also very very fast. You don't need to buy a discrete graphic card with it.

It is like more than 10 times faster than your XFX 7300 LE as far as graphics are concerned. It is going to be fine for your gaming needs.

Processor is equal to Core i3 3rd gen. If you go with FX-4100, then you need to buy a graphic card. Same with i3 as Intel's built-in GPU is slow.

A10-5800K is the perfect balance.

thanks ico

just reading flipkart user review..

AMD's Latest Power Toy - ill help you how to build a power rig for mid range gaming.

*Now why is this better than Intel (Compare AMD and Intel with inbuilt Graphics only)
A10 5800K vs i3/i5/i7 (Max intel would have its HD4000 graphics) - Intel grapihics is nowhere compared to amd's ATI HD 7660D for gaming of course,, its like comparing an aeroplane to a bicycle. FPS set to high/ultra high for amd would get you to 35-40 FPS for crysis and the latest hardcore games, which would be only 5-10 for intels'
Check the gaming CPU benchmarks for AMD and you will know the difference.

*why to buy AMD A10:
1. Want an economic and budget restrained CPU - would cost 40-50% less than intel
2. A gaming rig without spending much
3. Mostly for gaming. If multitasking is the main obj, go for the new piledriver with 8 cores
4. Do not want to buy a Graphic card soon or ever - Intel rig(i5) + ext graphic card = best gaming and all purpose rig, only go for intel if u are not a budget gamer and money is not an issue.

* Now the Gaming RiG
1. AMD A10
2.Motherboard: go for a midrange MoBo. I have Gigabyte F2A55M-HD2 with crossfire support. No need to go for high end, instead u can get one ati HD 6650 at a later stage and use it in Xfire for epic performance (expect another 10-15 inc in FPS)
3. AMD heats, but like the old athlon where you could cook omlettes, this is a 100w Processor and K=overclock, means more power req = more heating. always good to go for a cpu cooler. EVO 212 or Hyper T4 by cooler master is the easy choice. both around 2-2.2k
CAUTION: the FM2 architecture is wierd, very wierd i'd say. You cannot mount it horizontally, If u mount it vertically on the processor then forget the use of COrsair Venegeance rams or rams with heatsinks. No issues for an intel based MobO thou, plently of space and mounting type differs in both.
4. So i had to go for Transcend 2x4 GB Ram (1333M). Use in Dual channel mode for max efficiency.
CAUTION- 8 GB ram for 32 bit OS means only 2.5 GB usable. You need to use a 64 bit OS to maximize its usage cap to 7.5 GB
5.Cabinet: better to go for a mid range gaming cabinet. Either CM elite series or Zebronics Fantasy. I've got Zebronics. It has two side fans and one front fan illuminating lustrous green lighting.
If u have Zebronics Fantasy or the likes and also fit Hyper T4, then u gotta remove one of the cabinet fans and mount it to the CPU Cooler so that u are able to fit the flaps of the cabinets.
Caution: Playing CnC4 - Tiberium twilight in low detail with my old Zebronics 450W PSU was very smooth. I increased the graphic settings to hIgh, worked for 15 mins and then BOOM!!!! Whether u go for latest i5 or AMD A10, build what all components you can get ur hands on, DO NOT FORGET ABOUT THE PSU - Its THE MAIN COMPONENT. If u buy a cheap one, u might end up blowing up the whole Mobo + Ram + G Card. This is one time investment so make a proper choice.
CM Thunder 500 or corsair cx 500 or Seasonic would be a better choice. Expect them to start from 3K. Ive got the Thunder. Works with ease
6. HDD - I'd recommend WD any day.
7. DvD - in a world of portability, go for a DvD writer only if u are planning to install already bough games. Boot fromUSB flash drives - better and faster
8. Sound card - if u r planning to go 5.1, sound card is a must. Asus Xonar fits the bill. If u dont want to spend that much, go for F&D 2.1 - exceptional sound quality for the price and RMS wattage
Earphones - Sennheiser/ Denon/ Kilpch
9. Mouse - CS/CnC/FPS - logitech mx 518 is a very good choice. Go for razer only if u play a lot of RPG/MMORPG. If u go for higher end models, do invest in Razer's mousepad or else kiss the mouse's sensitivity goodbye. Now dont get the MX to play only Pocket Tanks or Need For Speed
10. KB - No idea,, go for anyone u like.

Bottom line - A10 is way better for gaming if u dont plan to go for Discrete GPU. Coz if u do go for one, then the internal processors graphics would be unusable. U can only Xfire a couple of graphic cards. Chk the Processor's recommended GPU for Xfire
P.S: Xfire/crossfire means u can utilize both the inbuilt processor Graphics and additional GPU.
If u go for A10 - CPU Cooler + Good 500w PSU is a must.
High End games in mid detail would give very good FPS,
This AMD CPU (Processor, CPU Cooler, MoBo, Ram, PSU, Cabinet) would cost you around 25K and can play any game u name it with ease. The same rig with Intel would cost you around 35K and u wont be able to play games in mid to high level detail with ease, u need to spend another 10-15K on a Graphic card and 600w PSU.
Its all about what u wanna do with your cpu would matter in the end.

Hope this detailed survey help

In your scheme of things and budget stick to an AMD APU based system.

hmmm thanks

. AMD heats more?

which cpu cooler and cabinet good for amd system???

i never used AMD system before