Rockstar11
Technomancer
anyone knows Cantonese & Mandarin. ?
Language learners' discussion thread !! :D
mastercool8695
Cyborg Agent
hinglish is the most used among youngsters... wat say??
you can speak any ligi now.. thanks to google translate... hahahaaha
you can speak any ligi now.. thanks to google translate... hahahaaha
ah, right, lets get started.....
i follow Learn Japanese Free - Complete Resource For Learning Japanese, if want you may check it out also.
basic sentence structure is SOV (subject - object - verb), that's like hindi a bit. ok, forget it, here is an example :
kono hon wa omoshiroi desu.
kono/sono/ano -> this/that/distant that
hon -> book
wa/ga -> subject indicator
omoshiroi -> interesting
desu -> verb like "hai/hain" in hindi
subject is book, book is interesting, verb is hindi.
now memorize this:
*www.learnjapanesefree.com/img/japanese-particles-list.jpg
then check these basic sentences.
*www.learnjapanesefree.com/basic-japanese-sentences.html
when you get that structure above, you will be able to identify the subject/object/verb in a basic sentence. take help of eudict, and get meanings of words. if any confusion, arise the question.
Kono wa meppou yuuyou . Arigatou icebags-san.
Waga Japanese shuugaku sonchi...
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icebags
Technomancer
Kono wa meppou yuuyou. Arigatou icebags-san.
Waga Japanese shuugaku sonchi...
ah alright! at last u came.
so let's make this little better by some grammatical corrections. (i m a noob myself, if there were someone to check there, it would be better 
)
the first sentence: Kono wa meppou yuuyou.
(1) kono/sono/ano are for physical matters i think i read somewhere. besides, it sounds weird to refer writings with these. so, for these, use kore/sore/are.
(2) you used the object indicator "correctly".
then you used two adjectives "meppou" & "yuuyou" (i m not very sure, but seems using these adjectives in their current form is ok.....will see later), but forgot to add verb "desu".
so, it comes to : kore wa meppou yuuyou desu. i.e. yeh bahaut kaam ki hai.
second sentence: Waga Japanese shuugaku sonchi.
(1) hey what you mean by waga ?
i did not find meaning. if you want to mean "I", then use "watashi"/"boku".
(2) you may drop ga/wa when talking about doing something. use wa/ga when describing something.
(3) japanese : nihongo
(4) "shuugaku" means schooling, "sonchi" is used to describe how you learn. let use it as adjective.
(5) ""shuugaku isn't probably a verb, if it is, u have to use -masu with it to mean "to do"/"will do".
so it comes to : watashi ga nihongo wo sonchi shuugakimasu. but it sounds a bit weird, i need to clear this from someone.
after you get my previous post, tell me when to go the step.
ok, lets also make ur ears..... see this and match it with this.....
yo musue nagekanaide otonathachi
sore demo imano
futari no kokoro junsui sono mono
suki na kimi no soba ni itsumo itai
te wo tsunagu dake de mune wo gyutto shimetsukeru
i will love you forever
kawashita yakosuku mamorinuku
kanashimu uso nado tsukanai
darling! aishiteru yo nante
hoka no ko ni ittari shinaide ne
so i know kowarenai you ni zutto
i cant live without you
who keeps loving you!
)the first sentence: Kono wa meppou yuuyou.
(1) kono/sono/ano are for physical matters i think i read somewhere. besides, it sounds weird to refer writings with these. so, for these, use kore/sore/are.
(2) you used the object indicator "correctly".
then you used two adjectives "meppou" & "yuuyou" (i m not very sure, but seems using these adjectives in their current form is ok.....will see later), but forgot to add verb "desu".so, it comes to : kore wa meppou yuuyou desu.
i.e. yeh bahaut kaam ki hai.second sentence: Waga Japanese shuugaku sonchi.
(1) hey what you mean by waga ?
i did not find meaning. if you want to mean "I", then use "watashi"/"boku".(2) you may drop ga/wa when talking about doing something. use wa/ga when describing something.
(3) japanese : nihongo
(4) "shuugaku" means schooling, "sonchi" is used to describe how you learn. let use it as adjective.
(5) ""shuugaku isn't probably a verb, if it is, u have to use -masu with it to mean "to do"/"will do".
so it comes to : watashi ga nihongo wo sonchi shuugakimasu.
but it sounds a bit weird, i need to clear this from someone.after you get my previous post, tell me when to go the step.
ok, lets also make ur ears..... see this and match it with this.....
yo musue nagekanaide otonathachi
sore demo imano
futari no kokoro junsui sono mono
suki na kimi no soba ni itsumo itai
te wo tsunagu dake de mune wo gyutto shimetsukeru
i will love you forever
kawashita yakosuku mamorinuku
kanashimu uso nado tsukanai
darling! aishiteru yo nante
hoka no ko ni ittari shinaide ne
so i know kowarenai you ni zutto
i cant live without you
who keeps loving you!
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icebags
Technomancer
will do, i thought ppl are not taking much interest in it. cause not much actual discussion is going on.
interested ppl should discuss with each other, addressing to each other.
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ah alright! at last u came.
so let's make this little better by some grammatical corrections. (i m a noob myself, if there were someone to check there, it would be better
the first sentence: Kono wa meppou yuuyou.
(1) kono/sono/ano are for physical matters i think i read somewhere. besides, it sounds weird to refer writings with these. so, for these, use kore/sore/are.
(2) you used the object indicator "correctly".
so, it comes to : kore wa meppou yuuyou desu.
second sentence: Waga Japanese shuugaku sonchi.
(1) hey what you mean by waga ?
(2) you may drop ga/wa when talking about doing something. use wa/ga when describing something.
(3) japanese : nihongo
(4) "shuugaku" means schooling, "sonchi" is used to describe how you learn. let use it as adjective.
(5) ""shuugaku isn't probably a verb, if it is, u have to use -masu with it to mean "to do"/"will do".
so it comes to : watashi ga nihongo wo sonchi shuugakimasu.
after you get my previous post, tell me when to go the step.
ok, lets also make ur ears..... see this and match it with this.....
yo musue nagekanaide otonathachi
sore demo imano
futari no kokoro junsui sono mono
suki na kimi no soba ni itsumo itai
te wo tsunagu dake de mune wo gyutto shimetsukeru
i will love you forever
kawashita yakosuku mamorinuku
kanashimu uso nado tsukanai
darling! aishiteru yo nante
hoka no ko ni ittari shinaide ne
so i know kowarenai you ni zutto
i cant live without you
who keeps loving you!
Sorry for the late reply. I was out of station yesterday.
I'll have you study your previous post thoroughly. Kono wa meppou yuuyou
According to me:
kono = that
was = is
meppou = very
yuuyou = helpful
Waga Japanese shuugaku sonchi
Waga= my
shuugaku = learning
sonchi = continues.
This is somewhat confusing. I translated them from eudict.
Anyway, what about the addressing words like san, chan, rin, kun ??
Kono wa sou futeki.
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icebags
Technomancer
here.
there is something..... the grammatical structure of nihongo is not same as english. so, if u only put the equivalent words in english grammatical order, it will not work. (it's more similar to hindi, than english actually)
in english u say : that is very helpful.
in nihongo u say : that very helpful is.
similarly the second one should be: i, japanese to, continue learning.
(one more thing, i = watashi ; my = watashi no)
always remember this structure is : [subject object verb].
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anyways, did you study the table i gave you ? then forget everything else and check these sentences.
wa / ga -> watashi wa indojin desu. (i am indian)
to -> watashi to jojosan wa indojin desu. (i and jojo-san are indian)
mo -> jojo-san wa indojin desu. watashi mo desu. (mr.jojo is india. i am too.)
wo,ka -> nani o kaimasu ka ? (what do u buy)
ni -> gakkou ni ikimasu. (going to school)
no -> watashi no kuruma desu. (my car)
de-> watashi wa kuruma de ikimasu. (i go by car)
and about you asked .....
san -> you address most people with this.
sama -> you address very respectable people with this. (king, queen, old respectable people, god etc.)
chan -> young and close people.
kun -> address your dear person, may be lover or little brother or ur favorite student etc.
rin is probably just a name.
in english u say : that is very helpful.
in nihongo u say : that very helpful is.
similarly the second one should be: i, japanese to, continue learning.
(one more thing, i = watashi ; my = watashi no)
always remember this structure is : [subject object verb].
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anyways, did you study the table i gave you ? then forget everything else and check these sentences.
wa / ga -> watashi wa indojin desu. (i am indian)
to -> watashi to jojosan wa indojin desu. (i and jojo-san are indian)
mo -> jojo-san wa indojin desu. watashi mo desu. (mr.jojo is india. i am too.)
wo,ka -> nani o kaimasu ka ? (what do u buy)
ni -> gakkou ni ikimasu. (going to school)
no -> watashi no kuruma desu. (my car)
de-> watashi wa kuruma de ikimasu. (i go by car)
and about you asked .....
san -> you address most people with this.
sama -> you address very respectable people with this. (king, queen, old respectable people, god etc.)
chan -> young and close people.
kun -> address your dear person, may be lover or little brother or ur favorite student etc.
rin is probably just a name.
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See if I'm getting this right:
wa/ga -> Watashi wa otaku desu. (I am a nerd/gamer/enthusiast )
to -> Watashi to icebags-san wa nihongo sonchi desu. (I and icebags are learining japanese)
mo -> Icebags-san anime jin desu. Watashi wa anime jin mo desu, (Icebags likes anime. I too like anime)
wo/ka -> Nani o nimuri-masu ka ? (Are you sleeping?)
ni -> toraiou ni nimuri. (Trying to sleep)
no -> Watashi no enpitsu desu. (my pencil)
de -> Watashi no basu de ikimasu . (I go by bus)
wa/ga -> Watashi wa otaku desu. (I am a nerd/gamer/enthusiast
)to -> Watashi to icebags-san wa nihongo sonchi desu. (I and icebags are learining japanese)
mo -> Icebags-san anime jin desu. Watashi wa anime jin mo desu, (Icebags likes anime. I too like anime)
wo/ka -> Nani o nimuri-masu ka ? (Are you sleeping?)
ni -> toraiou ni nimuri. (Trying to sleep)
no -> Watashi no enpitsu desu. (my pencil)
de -> Watashi no basu de ikimasu . (I go by bus)
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icebags
Technomancer
nice!
just a few little corrections are required ....
is -> desu; -masu -> to do.
# Watashi to icebags-san wa nihongo sonchimasu. (i am not again confident abount sonchi, which means continue)
# Icebags-san wa anime no koto suki. Watashi mo anime no koto suki. ( koto - about, suki - love/like :: Mr.IceBags likes about anime. I like about anime too. )
# Icebags-san wa anime jin desu. (Mr.Icebag is anime person. jin - people/person. desu - is)
# Nemurimasu ka ? (nani ->what; Nani o nimuri-masu ka -> what r you sleeping
; so no need to use nani)
# Kore nani (desu ka) ? (what's this)
# Nemuri ni torai-masu. (trying to sleep; ni -> for ; sleep for trying )
# Watashi wa basu de ikimasu. (watashi no basu -> my bus.)
# Watashi no basu de ikimasu. (going by my bus.)
# Translate : nani yume o miru ka ?
awesome effort, keep it up !
~more masu ::
[dictionary form] [stem form] [masu form] meaning
mi miru mimasu to look
taberu tabe tabemasu to eat
suru shi shimasu to do
u search in a dictionary with dictionary form, u add suffixes to a stem form.
~more desu with example of "wakaru" (to know/understand)
Informal Present (Dictionary Form) wakaru anata wakaru ka ? u understand ?
Formal Present (~ masu Form) wakarimasu watashi wakarimasu understand
Informal Past (~ ta Form) wakatta wakatta!! understood!!
Formal Past (~ mashita Form) wakarimashita wakarimashita understood
Informal Negative (~ nai Form) wakaranai watashi wakaranai don't understand
Formal Negative (~imasen form) wakarimasen same formal same formal
Informal Past Negative (~nakatta form) wakaranakatta wakaranakatta didn't understand
Formal Past Negative ( ~imasen deshita) wakarimasen deshita same same
Asking to do (~ te Form) wakatte kore wakatte! understand this!
Conditional (~eba ?? ) wakareba
Volitional (~ou) wakarou
Passive (~eru) wakarareru
Causative wakaraseru
it is a pleasure learning with u.
is -> desu; -masu -> to do.
# Watashi to icebags-san wa nihongo sonchimasu. (i am not again confident abount sonchi, which means continue)
# Icebags-san wa anime no koto suki. Watashi mo anime no koto suki. ( koto - about, suki - love/like :: Mr.IceBags likes about anime. I like about anime too. )
# Icebags-san wa anime jin desu. (Mr.Icebag is anime person. jin - people/person. desu - is)
# Nemurimasu ka ? (nani ->what; Nani o nimuri-masu ka -> what r you sleeping
; so no need to use nani)# Kore nani (desu ka) ? (what's this)
# Nemuri ni torai-masu. (trying to sleep; ni -> for ; sleep for trying )
# Watashi wa basu de ikimasu. (watashi no basu -> my bus.)
# Watashi no basu de ikimasu. (going by my bus.)
# Translate : nani yume o miru ka ?
awesome effort, keep it up !
~more masu ::
mi miru mimasu to look
taberu tabe tabemasu to eat
suru shi shimasu to do
u search in a dictionary with dictionary form, u add suffixes to a stem form.
~more desu with example of "wakaru" (to know/understand)
Formal Present (~ masu Form) wakarimasu watashi wakarimasu understand
Informal Past (~ ta Form) wakatta wakatta!! understood!!
Formal Past (~ mashita Form) wakarimashita wakarimashita understood
Informal Negative (~ nai Form) wakaranai watashi wakaranai don't understand
Formal Negative (~imasen form) wakarimasen same formal same formal
Informal Past Negative (~nakatta form) wakaranakatta wakaranakatta didn't understand
Formal Past Negative ( ~imasen deshita) wakarimasen deshita same same
Asking to do (~ te Form) wakatte kore wakatte! understand this!
Conditional (~eba ?? ) wakareba
Volitional (~ou) wakarou
Passive (~eru) wakarareru
Causative wakaraseru
it is a pleasure learning with u.
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nani yume o miru ka ?
nani = What
yume = dream
miru = to view (?)
So, i guess the translation is
What to dream ?
I'm not sure if my translation is correct.
I'm writing a passage in nihongo.
Watashi wa suki eigo desu. Datte wastashi suki-masu meppou Anime . Sou watashi wa ketsubou ni shuugaku-masu nihongo. O kono, watashi wa arigatou-masu ni Icebags-san.
nani = What
yume = dream
miru = to view (?)
So, i guess the translation is
What to dream ?
I'm not sure if my translation is correct.
I'm writing a passage in nihongo.
Watashi wa suki eigo desu. Datte wastashi suki-masu meppou Anime . Sou watashi wa ketsubou ni shuugaku-masu nihongo. O kono, watashi wa arigatou-masu ni Icebags-san.
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icebags
Technomancer
i think it means what dream you see..
about "What to dream ?", google translate gave 2 translations: :O
What to dream ? donna yume desuka ? what dream ?
What to dream donna yume wo miru tameni donna ->what; tame(thame) -> for the sake of
my version, with bit grammar rectification :
Watashi wa suki eigo desu. watashi wa eigo no koto suki. koto->about
Datte wastashi suki-masu meppou Anime . Datte watashi anime no koto meppou suki(-masu)
Sou watashi wa ketsubou ni shuugaku-masu nihongo. watashi wa nihongo o sou manabi-tai desu. add -tai to express ur want; like watashi tabe-tai desu -> i want to eat; shuugaku is noun, lets use manabu/narau as verb here. manabu -> manabitai ; ketsubou is more famine than want i think
O kono, watashi wa arigatou-masu ni Icebags-san. dakara, Icebags-san ni arigatou. dakara -> therefore. use "kono" when there is a noun after "kono", otherwise use "kore" , ok ?
awesome, keep it up and don't forget to memorize the corrected sentences.
about my previous post, memorize the 3rd column of the second table like u did with time-tables. *www.thinkdigit.com/forum/chit-chat/150194-language-learners-discussion-thread-d-3.html#post1630407
about "What to dream ?", google translate gave 2 translations: :O
What to dream donna yume wo miru tameni donna ->what; tame(thame) -> for the sake of
my version, with bit grammar rectification :
Datte wastashi suki-masu meppou Anime . Datte watashi anime no koto meppou suki(-masu)
Sou watashi wa ketsubou ni shuugaku-masu nihongo. watashi wa nihongo o sou manabi-tai desu. add -tai to express ur want; like watashi tabe-tai desu -> i want to eat; shuugaku is noun, lets use manabu/narau as verb here. manabu -> manabitai ; ketsubou is more famine than want i think
O kono, watashi wa arigatou-masu ni Icebags-san. dakara, Icebags-san ni arigatou. dakara -> therefore. use "kono" when there is a noun after "kono", otherwise use "kore" , ok ?
awesome, keep it up
and don't forget to memorize the corrected sentences.about my previous post, memorize the 3rd column of the second table like u did with time-tables. *www.thinkdigit.com/forum/chit-chat/150194-language-learners-discussion-thread-d-3.html#post1630407
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Thanks for the corrections and that grammar chart. Must've taken a lot of time.
Memorizing that table will take some time though.
Lemme attempt more sentences.
1)Watashi wa setunai wakaru. (I am trying to understand )
Try= Torai
Trying = Setsunai
How can the "ing" change the word so much?
2)Datta, watashi wa hitsuyou ni torai soubou. (But I need to try harder)
How do I change to superlative , i.e, the "er" in harder ?
3) Ikimasu ka ? (Are you going ? )
4) Watashi wa kirunakatte Ichigo-san . (I didn't kill Ichigo )
5) Watashi mirumashita Luffy. ( I saw Luffy)
6) Watashi wa yumemasu. (I dream )
Thats all for now. Phew!
Thanks for helping me learn. Its fun.
Memorizing that table will take some time though.
Lemme attempt more sentences.
1)Watashi wa setunai wakaru. (I am trying to understand )
Try= Torai
Trying = Setsunai
How can the "ing" change the word so much?
2)Datta, watashi wa hitsuyou ni torai soubou. (But I need to try harder)
How do I change to superlative , i.e, the "er" in harder ?
3) Ikimasu ka ? (Are you going ? )
4) Watashi wa kirunakatte Ichigo-san . (I didn't kill Ichigo )
5) Watashi mirumashita Luffy. ( I saw Luffy)
6) Watashi wa yumemasu. (I dream )
Thats all for now. Phew!
Thanks for helping me learn.
Its fun.
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icebags
Technomancer
ur next dose. 
err, u got different word, setsunai meaning heart breakingly painful stuff.
so, ur sentence would mean something like "i painfully understand" i think.
and u don't add -ing just like that, make the [root verb] -te imasu.
Datta, watashi wa hitsuyou ni torai soubou. datta, watashi wa soubu toraimasu. i will try wildly.. its soubu if u want to mean u gonna try wildly, not soubou and drop "need to" that complicates it beyond my level . and datta is past tense of datte, u know that right ? .
datta, watashi wa gutto soubu toraimasu. -more
Watashi wa kirunakatte Ichigo-san. watashi wa Ichigo-san no kira ja arimasen. i am not ichigo's killer. (where did u get "kirunakatte" ? -te means asking to do, -ttte means [ing] normally)
Watashi mirumashita Luffy watashi luffy ga mita. u can use "mimashita" may be, but mita is used normally. (mirumashita is wrong *)
Watashi wa yumemasu. watashi wa yume mimasu. yume is noun. miru -> mimasu
anyways, i hope u memorized the 3rd column, now get these too:
Suffixes that Follow Plain/Informal Forms ([u/tsu/ru] / [mu/bu/nu] / [ku] / [gu] / [su] suffixed )
should -beki desu taberu- beki desu 1 should eat.
probability -desho taberu-desho I'll probably eat. #important
possibility -kamo shiremasen Taberu- kamo shiremasen 1 might eat.
person -hito taberu-hito the person who eats #important
because -kara taberu-kara because 1 eat (kara - from) #important
noun-maker -koto taberu-koto the act of eating
things -mono taberu-mono things to eat #important
time -toki taberu-toki when 1 eat
intention -tsumori desu taberu-tsumori desu 1 plan to eat.
Suffixes that Follow Stem Forms
while -nagara tabe-nagara while eating
purpose -ni tabe-ni in order to eat/for eating #important
difficulty -nikui tabe-nikui It's hard to eat.
overdoing -sugiru tabe-sugiru 1 overeat.
desire -tai tabe-tai 1 want to eat. #important
Suffixes that Follow Te-forms
doing a favor -ageru tabete-ageru 1 eat for you.
present perfect -aru tabete-aru 1 have eaten. #important
present progressive -iru tabete-iru 1 am eating. #important
requesting -kudasai tabete-kudasai Please eat. #important
attempt -miru tabete-miru I'll try to eat.
completion -shimau tabete-shimau I finish eating. #important
memorize like this::
#wakaru,wakarimasu,wakatta,wakarimashita,wakaranai,wakarimasen,wakaranakatta,wakarimasen deshita,wakatte,wakareba,wakarou,wakarareru,wakaraseru
#taberu- beki desu,taberu-desho,Taberu- kamo shiremasen,taberu-hito,taberu-kara,taberu-koto,taberu-mono,taberu-toki,taberu-tsumori desu,tabe-nagara,tabe-ni,tabe-nikui,tabe-sugiru,tabe-tai,tabete-ageru,tabete-aru,tabete-iru,tabete-kudasai,tabete-miru,tabete-shimau.
* some rules to use verb:
(1) get the dictionary form from dictionary. ([u/tsu/ru] / [mu/bu/nu] / [ku] / [gu] / [su] suffixed )
(2) find the stem form by removing [u/tsu/ru] / [mu/bu/nu] / [ku] / [gu] / [su] suffix
(3) if u want -te form (-te means "do it")
Group 1:
# If the end of the root verb is either "u", "tsu" or "ru" then remove that ending and add "tte". In other words, remove u, tsu, ru respectively
and add a small tsu and te. Here the rule of double consonants plays a role. E.g. kau (to buy) - katte
# If the root verb ends with either with "mu", "bu" or "nu" then remove that end and replace it by adding "nde".i.e. Remove "mu", "be",
"nu" respectively and add the nasal sound "n" and "de". Here rule of nasal sound "n" comes into action. Yomu (To read) – Yonde
# If the root verb ends in "ku" then remove "ku" and add "ite". E.g. kiku (To listen) – kiite
# If the root verb ends in "gu" then remove "gu" and add "ide". E.g. Oyogu (To swim) – oyoide
# If the root verb ends in "su" then remove "su" and add "shite". E.g. kasu (To lend) – kashite
Group 2: Only rule to follow in this group is, remove "ru" from the root verb form and add "te" at the end. E.g. miru (To see) – mite
Group 3: There are only two verbs, their form is as follows: Suru (To do) – Shite; Kuru (To come) – Kite
(4) if u want -ta form (past tense)
change verb into "te". replace the end "te" to "ta"/"de" to "da".
NEXT, take a deep breath, clear ur head, take some time and read the english wording in this link and the links in this page: Basic Japanese Verb - Types of Japanese Verbs
come back soon after u got the logic. jojo-san ganbatte ne !!
so, ur sentence would mean something like "i painfully understand" i think.
and u don't add -ing just like that, make the [root verb] -te imasu.
. and datta is past tense of datte, u know that right ? .datta, watashi wa gutto soubu toraimasu. -more
Watashi wa kirunakatte Ichigo-san. watashi wa Ichigo-san no kira ja arimasen. i am not ichigo's killer. (where did u get "kirunakatte" ? -te means asking to do, -ttte means [ing] normally)
Watashi mirumashita Luffy watashi luffy ga mita. u can use "mimashita" may be, but mita is used normally. (mirumashita is wrong *)
Watashi wa yumemasu. watashi wa yume mimasu. yume is noun. miru -> mimasu
anyways, i hope u memorized the 3rd column, now get these too:
Suffixes that Follow Plain/Informal Forms ([u/tsu/ru] / [mu/bu/nu] / [ku] / [gu] / [su] suffixed )
probability -desho taberu-desho I'll probably eat. #important
possibility -kamo shiremasen Taberu- kamo shiremasen 1 might eat.
person -hito taberu-hito the person who eats #important
because -kara taberu-kara because 1 eat (kara - from) #important
noun-maker -koto taberu-koto the act of eating
things -mono taberu-mono things to eat #important
time -toki taberu-toki when 1 eat
intention -tsumori desu taberu-tsumori desu 1 plan to eat.
Suffixes that Follow Stem Forms
purpose -ni tabe-ni in order to eat/for eating #important
difficulty -nikui tabe-nikui It's hard to eat.
overdoing -sugiru tabe-sugiru 1 overeat.
desire -tai tabe-tai 1 want to eat. #important
Suffixes that Follow Te-forms
present perfect -aru tabete-aru 1 have eaten. #important
present progressive -iru tabete-iru 1 am eating. #important
requesting -kudasai tabete-kudasai Please eat. #important
attempt -miru tabete-miru I'll try to eat.
completion -shimau tabete-shimau I finish eating. #important
memorize like this::
#wakaru,wakarimasu,wakatta,wakarimashita,wakaranai,wakarimasen,wakaranakatta,wakarimasen deshita,wakatte,wakareba,wakarou,wakarareru,wakaraseru
#taberu- beki desu,taberu-desho,Taberu- kamo shiremasen,taberu-hito,taberu-kara,taberu-koto,taberu-mono,taberu-toki,taberu-tsumori desu,tabe-nagara,tabe-ni,tabe-nikui,tabe-sugiru,tabe-tai,tabete-ageru,tabete-aru,tabete-iru,tabete-kudasai,tabete-miru,tabete-shimau.
* some rules to use verb:
(1) get the dictionary form from dictionary. ([u/tsu/ru] / [mu/bu/nu] / [ku] / [gu] / [su] suffixed )
(2) find the stem form by removing [u/tsu/ru] / [mu/bu/nu] / [ku] / [gu] / [su] suffix
(3) if u want -te form (-te means "do it")
Group 1:
# If the end of the root verb is either "u", "tsu" or "ru" then remove that ending and add "tte". In other words, remove u, tsu, ru respectively
and add a small tsu and te. Here the rule of double consonants plays a role. E.g. kau (to buy) - katte
# If the root verb ends with either with "mu", "bu" or "nu" then remove that end and replace it by adding "nde".i.e. Remove "mu", "be",
"nu" respectively and add the nasal sound "n" and "de". Here rule of nasal sound "n" comes into action. Yomu (To read) – Yonde
# If the root verb ends in "ku" then remove "ku" and add "ite". E.g. kiku (To listen) – kiite
# If the root verb ends in "gu" then remove "gu" and add "ide". E.g. Oyogu (To swim) – oyoide
# If the root verb ends in "su" then remove "su" and add "shite". E.g. kasu (To lend) – kashite
Group 2: Only rule to follow in this group is, remove "ru" from the root verb form and add "te" at the end. E.g. miru (To see) – mite
Group 3: There are only two verbs, their form is as follows: Suru (To do) – Shite; Kuru (To come) – Kite
(4) if u want -ta form (past tense)
change verb into "te". replace the end "te" to "ta"/"de" to "da".
NEXT, take a deep breath, clear ur head, take some time and read the english wording in this link and the links in this page: Basic Japanese Verb - Types of Japanese Verbs
come back soon after u got the logic. jojo-san ganbatte ne !!
Reaper_vivek
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Hindi
English
German(not fluent though)
Languages I want to learn :
Spanish
French
Japanese
OP
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Technomancer
oke, start from post 59, that where jojo-san no nihongo o hajimeta.
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/chit-chat/150194-language-learners-discussion-thread-d-2.html#post1620739
