Italy Won't Send Accused Marines to India

KDroid

KDroid

Cyborg Agent
They could have voted from India. Italy allows its citizens to vote from a foreign country. Why did the court allow them to go?

This was inevitable at some point anyway. What puzzles me is why did the Italian government sent back after Christmas holidays?

If Italy is ready to put those marines under trial and give them the punishment they deserve, then let them be where they are.
 
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Renny

Renny

Padawan
KDroid said:
They could have voted from India. Italy allows its citizens to vote from a foreign country. Why did the court allow them to go?

This was inevitable at some point anyway. What puzzles me is why did the Italian government sent back after Christmas holidays?

If Italy is ready to put those marines under trial and give them the punishment they deserve, then let them be where they are.
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Its all a well staged game. Our govt. will act all angry and serious for maybe a week or two, so will our media.

Then as usual everything will be forgotten.
Quid pro quo.
 
NoasArcAngel

NoasArcAngel

Wise Old Owl
Renny said:
Its all a well staged game. Our govt. will act all angry and serious for maybe a week or two, so will our media.

Then as usual everything will be forgotten.
Quid pro quo.
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well it could go the other way, because the election season is coming... so maybe the govt will dilly dally till then and then forget the people who these marines shot dead even existed.
 
baccilus

baccilus

Cyborg Agent
Read this article to get a clearer perspective on the Italian marine's issue. Very few publications show honest opinions like this these days:
Reading the Italian Job Right
Excerpt:
The Coast Guard’s report also mentioned that the Italian ship was 22.5 nautical miles off the coast of Kerala. This is beyond the 12-mile limit of national territorial waters within which India has exclusive jurisdiction. It is also within the 24-mile contiguous zone and the 200-mile Economic Exclusion Zone beyond which international waters indisputably start and the marines would have come under the jurisdiction of the country whose flag the vessel was flying. The dispute is over which country has jurisdiction and the degree of rights over the 188 miles in between the EEZ and territorial waters.
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KDroid

KDroid

Cyborg Agent
baccilus said:
Read this article to get a clearer perspective on the Italian marine's issue. Very few publications show honest opinions like this these days:
Reading the Italian Job Right
Excerpt:
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Jaideep Prabhu's articles are very informative and eye-opening. Here's one of my favorites The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People (in India) : Centre Right India
 
Flash

Flash

Lost in speed
None is respecting India, as we (Govt.) are keeping-mum all the times, even in the crucial matters (at times, by giving neutral comments).
 
KDroid

KDroid

Cyborg Agent
Look at Pakistan, Pakistan's Parliament passes resolution against Afzal Guru's hanging | NDTV.com

I wonder why such controversies crop up whenever a new scam breaks out.
 
Flash

Flash

Lost in speed

Even as the two were detained by the order of the Supreme Court, it did not charge the marines. In the absence of any charges, they left the country.

“As of now the SC had leveled no charges on them (the marines). SC was only determining who has the jurisdiction to prosecute them. The process of jurisdiction was not even initiated. As a result, India and Italy were to settle this jurisdiction issue and come to an understanding. Italy kept asking India for a diplomatic solution to this but there was no response from the Indian side,” the official said.

Technically, they were detained in India “without any charges.” So, legally, there is no case pending against them. The official also said that under Article 97 of United Nations Conference on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), it is the flag state which has the right to jurisdiction and the flag state in this case is Italy.
The Indian fishing vessel had no national flag.
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Whom to blame? Is India becoming too soft or too lame, nowadays?
 
Ronnie11

Ronnie11

Judgement Time!!
one thing is for sure...india gets pawned in law everytime with european or american counterparts...
 
havoknation

havoknation

Journeyman
Politicians in our country are at top most position/power and the way to this position is anonymous to all of us. As like to be an IES/IPS, one should work hard or to be in IIT/IIM , one should crack a competitive exam but what about Politics? Only siblings/family members of present politicians can become same and we have to accept.
 
Hrishi

Hrishi

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havoknation said:
Politicians in our country are at top most position/power and the way to this position is anonymous to all of us. As like to be an IES/IPS, one should work hard or to be in IIT/IIM , one should crack a competitive exam but what about Politics? Only siblings/family members of present politicians can become same and we have to accept.
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This....
 
icebags

icebags

Technomancer
kind of strange that a person like someone who enjoys so much diplomatic immunity was even allowed to be guarantor for such one risky case. whether the ambassador can be sued or not totally lies in the grey area of geneva convention and may be was the yield of some thoughtful planning or may be just the situation came out like this. but it was quite strange that this kind of situation was even allowed to happen.

well, it's still getting more and more interesting everyday and perhaps we will get an opportunity to see another "jailed abroad" episode in nat geo in future.
 
N

n_iceman

Right off the assembly line
Stop blaming the italian government for not sending back the 2 marine officers.. . . . .
Even we are not returning an italian since last 45 years..!!!
 
Thunder

Thunder

Journeyman
And now the entire EU is standing shoulder to shoulder with Italy.
Bad move from our central government in sending those marines home in the first place.
 
Extreme Gamer

Extreme Gamer

僕はガンダム！
Vendor
Shhhhh......you are being watched.
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Some comments here will make Kapil Sibal sue you, your family and everyone else associated with you for sedition, violating section 66A of the IT act and **** knows how many other draconian acts that are there in the Indian Constitution.
 
Hrishi

Hrishi

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Extreme Gamer said:
Some comments here will make Kapil Sibal sue you, your family and everyone else associated with you for sedition, violating section 66A of the IT act and **** knows how many other draconian acts that are there in the Indian Constitution.
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TDF has good SEO ranking , guess what.!!! I hope your comments don't appear on the top search results. :p
 
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