Gaming PC (Ryzen) Specs Advice Needed

[billubakra]

For the MotherBoard do check with mdcomputers too!

Called MD Computers to double check whether the ram is in stock or not this time and they said that the below mentioned ram will not be compatible with Ryzen processor as its version is low
*www.mdcomputers.in/corsair-vengeance-lpx-8gb-ddr4-2400mhz-cmk8gx4m1a2400c16r.html
He suggested me to go for the G.Skill one-
*www.mdcomputers.in/memory/ddr4-memory#/g-skill-m125/sort=p.sort_order/order=ASC/limit=15
Also he suggested me this Motherboard, when I asked there is no Ryzen logo so will there be a compatibly issue. He said no.

 

[billubakra]

For the MotherBoard do check with mdcomputers too!

Called MD Computers to double check whether the ram is in stock or not this time and they said that the below mentioned ram will not be compatible with Ryzen processor as its version is low
*www.mdcomputers.in/corsair-vengeance-lpx-8gb-ddr4-2400mhz-cmk8gx4m1a2400c16r.html
He suggested me to go for the G.Skill one-
*www.mdcomputers.in/memory/ddr4-memory#/g-skill-m125/sort=p.sort_order/order=ASC/limit=15
Also he suggested me this Motherboard, when I asked there is no Ryzen logo so will there be a compatibly issue. He said no.

 

[ssb1551]

Dude I think you've forgotten the paste the link for the MotherBoard. Anyways which MotherBoard did mdcomputer suggest?

 

[billubakra]

Dude I think you've forgotten the paste the link for the MotherBoard. Anyways which MotherBoard did mdcomputer suggest?

Sorry my bad-
ASUS MOTHERBOARD PRIME B350M-A (AMD SOCKET AM4/RYZEN SERIES CPU/MAX 64GB DDR4-3200MHZ MEMORY)

What they were saying about Corsair not being compatible with Ryzen, is that true?

 

[Digital Fragger]

Called MD Computers to double check whether the ram is in stock or not this time and they said that the below mentioned ram will not be compatible with Ryzen processor as its version is low
CORSAIR DESKTOP RAM VENGEANCE LPX SERIES - 8GB (8GBx1) DDR4 2400MHz RED (CMK8GX4M1A2400C16R)
He suggested me to go for the G.Skill one-
MEMORY
Also he suggested me this Motherboard, when I asked there is no Ryzen logo so will there be a compatibly issue. He said no.

What does he mean by low ram version? The corsair kit will work with Ryzen. You can get the G.Skill Ram anyway as they are in stock at similar price.

Sorry my bad-
ASUS MOTHERBOARD PRIME B350M-A (AMD SOCKET AM4/RYZEN SERIES CPU/MAX 64GB DDR4-3200MHZ MEMORY)

You can get this board if others are costly. It's a solid board but it has no heatsinks on the VRMs and limited voltage control. These limitations apply only if you are planning to do high OC. Moderate OC ~3.7Ghz should be fine.

 

[billubakra]

What does he mean by low ram version? The corsair kit will work with Ryzen. You can get the G.Skill Ram anyway as they are in stock at similar price.

IDK about the low ram version. He said Corsair one has 2.50 version but G.skill has the 2.50+ version which is compatible with Ryzen. If I go for the G.Skill one then will it fit the case, Google is saying that it might mess up with fan due to weird sizing.
CORSAIR DESKTOP RAM VENGEANCE LPX SERIES - 8GB (8GBx1) DDR4 2400MHz RED (CMK8GX4M1A2400C16R)
vs
G.SKILL DESKTOP RAM RIPJAWS V SERIES 16GB (16GBx1) DDR4 2400MHz (F4-2400C15S-16GVR)

Also they suggested this as an alternative to Asus Prime B350 Plus-
ASUS MOTHERBOARD PRIME B350M-A (AMD SOCKET AM4/RYZEN SERIES CPU/MAX 64GB DDR4-3200MHZ MEMORY)
Is it good?

Still no idea about PSU.

Please reply asap as I will have to deposit money in their account before 4pm

 

[Digital Fragger]

IDK about the low ram version. He said Corsair one has 2.50 version but G.skill has the 2.50+ version which is compatible with Ryzen. If I go for the G.Skill one then will it fit the case, Google is saying that it might mess up with fan due to weird sizing.
CORSAIR DESKTOP RAM VENGEANCE LPX SERIES - 8GB (8GBx1) DDR4 2400MHz RED (CMK8GX4M1A2400C16R)
vs
G.SKILL DESKTOP RAM RIPJAWS V SERIES 16GB (16GBx1) DDR4 2400MHz (F4-2400C15S-16GVR)

Also they suggested this as an alternative to Asus Prime B350 Plus-
ASUS MOTHERBOARD PRIME B350M-A (AMD SOCKET AM4/RYZEN SERIES CPU/MAX 64GB DDR4-3200MHZ MEMORY)
Is it good?

Still no idea about PSU.

Please reply asap as I will have to deposit money in their account before 4pm

Case has got nothing to do with RAM. It will fit fine.

You can get this board if others are costly. It's a solid board but it has no heatsinks on the VRMs and limited voltage control. These limitations apply only if you are planning to do high OC. Moderate OC ~3.7Ghz should be fine.

Don't be in hurry. No one knows how the price may vary post GST exactly. Even if prices rise post GST, it's not gonna be much. You have bought most of the components. People do more mistakes in hurry.

 

[billubakra]

Case has got nothing to do with RAM. It will fit fine.

Don't be in hurry. No one knows how the price may vary post GST exactly. Even if prices rise post GST, it's not gonna be much. You have bought most of the components. People do more mistakes in hurry.

Ordered the G.Skill one from MD Computers. Hope it is okay.
I am in a hurry just to save some bucks because most of the items will come under the 28% slab from 1st. Now left are PSU and Motherboard. Any alternatives?

 

[billubakra]

MD Computers are idiots. They told me on the phone that the price of the ram is inclusive of shipping+taxes. Now that I have deposited the money they are telling me that I need to deposit Rs. 200 more as shipping charges.

 

[gta5]

tax rate on most components is 18 % , only monitors will be taxed at 28% .. so prices should only rise by 3 - 5 % except monitors..


GST rates: 18% tax on personal computers, 28% on monitors will hit local manufacturers, says MAIT

get a single 8gb stick for now.. buy another stick when they are significantly cheaper next year..

yes cooler maser GX 550 Storm edition was the one i was talking about earlier .. it is most likely as good or even better than seasonic in some aspects. , there was only 1 review I came across but didn't read but I can't find that now... tried googling a lot ..
so i cant say with confidence , this model is good or not.. if the actual unit is not as advertised one...

so this model is an untested , not proven model..

and price is 5400 on online stores maybe without shipping..

most companies replace discontinued models with similarly priced current models..

regarding RMA I think you might face the same situation with antec .. vp550p is also very old now and antec is pushing lower quality models now like vp500pc and vp600p .. so I am concerned if there is a problem with vp550p they might just give you any one of those lower quality ones..

regarding seasonic read this thread and make up your mind in case of worst case scenario
when even the newer replacement model is not available


Tirupati Seasonic Rma Help.

 

[billubakra]

tax rate on most components is 18 % , only monitors will be taxed at 28% .. so prices should only rise by 3 - 5 % except monitors..


GST rates: 18% tax on personal computers, 28% on monitors will hit local manufacturers, says MAIT

get a single 8gb stick for now.. buy another stick when they are significantly cheaper next year..

yes cooler maser GX 550 Storm edition was the one i was talking about earlier .. it is most likely as good or even better than seasonic in some aspects. , there was only 1 review I came across but didn't read but I can't find that now... tried googling a lot ..
so i cant say with confidence , this model is good or not.. if the actual unit is not as advertised one...

so this model is an untested , not proven model..

and price is 5400 on online stores maybe without shipping..

most companies replace discontinued models with similarly priced current models..

regarding RMA I think you might face the same situation with antec .. vp550p is also very old now and antec is pushing lower quality models now like vp500pc and vp600p .. so I am concerned if there is a problem with vp550p they might just give you any one of those lower quality ones..

regarding seasonic read this thread and make up your mind in case of worst case scenario
when even the newer replacement model is not available


Tirupati Seasonic Rma Help.

Well already fooled by MD computers for the single 16 gb stick of g.skill. Money has been deposited, will deposit the shipping amount tomorrow. Hope they don't mess it this time. A question though is the warranty of g.skill also 10 years like that of vengeance?

Vat at least in Punjab on computer parts is 5.5%, it will rise to 18% so you do the math.

Actually Google, shopkeepers are suggesting me Cooler master, Antec and Corsair. Many Digitians have also mentioned Cooler Master in their signatures. Which model will be right for my rig, I am clueless. The shopkeepers are telling me to go for the 550-600 w model to be on the safe side. As of now PSU and motherboard are left.

Yes I myself faced the situation like the one mentioned in the erodov forum. My tplink modem went haywire. I sent it for RMA. Tplink sent a lower model which didn't had many features for which I paid for because my modem was not manufactured any more. When I asked them about the same they sent me a 100 page terms and conditions PDF.

 

[whitestar_999]

It is not just VAT,computer parts like ram,hdd etc are all imported & come to India via major shipping ports in South India/Mumbai.From there they are shipped all over to India which may include taxes from various state govt for crossing their borders.It is not certain how much prices of computer parts(except monitors) will increase post GST & if they do increase by a large amount,I think govt will come up with some measure in a few months.

 

[gta5]

like whitestar mentioned.. you are not only paying just vat..

for goods manufactured in India ... excise duty is charged ..

for goods imported in India .. import/ CVD duty is charged...

after that you add VAT....
and in some states other taxes like octroi etc..

it is mentioned in the article I linked that currently you are paying total 14% tax ( vat included ) so taxes will not rise more than 4-5% except monitors

coming to PSU .. cooler master storm edition is the only good alternative.. but again what if they discontinue it after 2 years and then in case of warranty hand you some masterwattlite or thunder 550 model which is way lower quality .. or maybe just bring out new GX series with bad caps.. previous GX series wasn't good..

all other brands corsair , antec etc are good 1 year and maybe bad next year .. because they don't manufacture stuff themselves ..

seasonic on the other hand , even if you get some lower model in case of warranty .. it is going to be still great quality most likely... as seasonic produces quality stuff consistently ... . even their low end eco series was great.. I think seasonic is still a safe bet . rest your choice.. the only problem with them is you will have to ship PSU to Kolkata in case of RMA..

wht did hardwire.in say ? and it is also available on bwindia.net ( not sure about site quality )

 

[billubakra]

It is not just VAT,computer parts like ram,hdd etc are all imported & come to India via major shipping ports in South India/Mumbai.From there they are shipped all over to India which may include taxes from various state govt for crossing their borders.It is not certain how much prices of computer parts(except monitors) will increase post GST & if they do increase by a large amount,I think govt will come up with some measure in a few months.

like whitestar mentioned.. you are not only paying just vat..

for goods manufactured in India ... excise duty is charged ..

for goods imported in India .. import/ CVD duty is charged...

after that you add VAT....
and in some states other taxes like octroi etc..

it is mentioned in the article I linked that currently you are paying total 14% tax ( vat included ) so taxes will not rise more than 4-5% except monitors

coming to PSU .. cooler master storm edition is the only good alternative.. but again what if they discontinue it after 2 years and then in case of warranty hand you some masterwattlite or thunder 550 model which is way lower quality .. or maybe just bring out new GX series with bad caps.. previous GX series wasn't good..

all other brands corsair , antec etc are good 1 year and maybe bad next year .. because they don't manufacture stuff themselves ..

seasonic on the other hand , even if you get some lower model in case of warranty .. it is going to be still great quality most likely... as seasonic produces quality stuff consistently ... . even their low end eco series was great.. I think seasonic is still a safe bet . rest your choice.. the only problem with them is you will have to ship PSU to Kolkata in case of RMA..

wht did hardwire.in say ? and it is also available on bwindia.net ( not sure about site quality )

True. It also includes sales tax. But what the shopkeepers and various sites have told me in the past few days is that along with the increase in taxes the manufacturers are also going to mark up their prices for every product. Since my budget is tight so that's why I am following the motto of a penny saved is a penny earned.
Man I have given up on seasonic. Hardware.in told me that they need time to inquire about the same but they sent a mail last night that it is not. Almost every shopkeeper in my city told me that it is outta stock and they don't know when it will be back. So, I am looking for an alternative. Forget about RMA, that's something the companies will keep on harassing us. Coolermaster or corsair and which model?
Also from where can I get the Asus motherboard?

 

[gta5]

if you want to save money then you are overspending on ram..

1 year ago same 16gb ram was available for 5.5-6k that you are paying 9k.. they are currently overpriced a lot because of supply shortage.. buy 8gb now and buy another 8gb when they drop in price next year . and yu dont even need 16gb right now so why pay extra for something you are not going to use now.. you will be able to save 1000-1500 this way.. you can ask for money back from mdcomputers or just get 8gb fr them if price lools fine compared to offline..

 

[billubakra]

if you want to save money then you are overspending on ram..

1 year ago same 16gb ram was available for 5.5-6k that you are paying 9k.. they are currently overpriced a lot because of supply shortage.. buy 8gb now and buy another 8gb when they drop in price next year . and yu dont even need 16gb right now so why pay extra for something you are not going to use now.. you will be able to save 1000-1500 this way.. you can ask for money back from mdcomputers or just get 8gb fr them if price lools fine compared to offline..

Agree. But as per MD Computers,"Corsair RAM has 5.30 version(version of what, even they don't know) and hence it is not compatible with Ryzen processor. G.Skill on the other hand has 5.40+ version which is compatible with Ryzen" When I asked them how do they know this,they told me from the experience of assembling 100+ computers each day.

 

[Digital Fragger]

Agree. But as per MD Computers,"Corsair RAM has 5.30 version(version of what, even they don't know) and hence it is not compatible with Ryzen processor. G.Skill on the other hand has 5.40+ version which is compatible with Ryzen" When I asked them how do they know this,they told me from the experience of assembling 100+ computers each day.

@billubakra Thanks for sharing your experiences. They sound like typical Indian computer shopwalas. I only have experience with ITDepot and they are much better. No fuss. They didn't give me suggestions to get something else to sell their overstocked products. Even price matched when I said something is cheaper on other stores. Transparent with shipping fees. Good packaging. Free shipping to Bangalore and Chennai. Guess I will stick with ITDepot.

 

[gta5]

if you don't want / can't get seasonic .. ( what about 430w model ? )

with no review I can't say much about GX 550 though on paper it looks great ..

so you can get antec vp550p from primeabg for 4k and change it after 4- 4.5 years .. and always make sure that when you shut down your PC you switch off the main A/C power

 

[billubakra]

@billubakra Thanks for sharing your experiences. They sound like typical Indian computer shopwalas. I only have experience with ITDepot and they are much better. No fuss. They didn't give me suggestions to get something else to sell their overstocked products. Even price matched when I said something is cheaper on other stores. Transparent with shipping fees. Good packaging. Free shipping to Bangalore and Chennai. Guess I will stick with ITDepot.

1 more thing they will tell you that they forgot to update that the product is OOS after you have deposited the money. Pretty crap experience. ITDepot has everyproduct but their minimum shipping price even for a RAM stick is like 700-800 bucks.

if you don't want / can't get seasonic .. ( what about 430w model ? )

with no review I can't say much about GX 550 though on paper it looks great ..

so you can get antec vp550p from primeabg for 4k and change it after 4- 4.5 years .. and always make sure that when you shut down your PC you switch off the main A/C power

Thanks will check antec vp550p and get back to you.

I got the number of the Punjab distributor of Asus. I asked him about the Asus prime motherboard, he said that if I had called yesterday he would have given me the same for Rs. 8200/- now all the stock is in the warehouse and will come out after 10 days with new MRP+with GST. He told me to expect an increase of atleast 1k in the price.

Received Ryzen 1600 from @ssb1551 Perfectly packed. Thanks a lot sir for selling me at a discount. 2 questions though, on the chip below diffused in USA and made in China 2016 is mentioned. My friends 1700 has got the year 2017 mentioned on the chip. Any need to check with AMD since the seller twice sent you the wrong product? We get the warranty on the HDD and GFX only when we register them on their site. Is that the case with Processors too?

 

[ssb1551]

You don't need to register even HDD & GPU. What you are talking about is the extra 3 years warranty Zotac offers if you register on their site. My ex-roomy changed his WD hdd when it crashed after 3 yrs of purchase. Zotac offers a standard 2 yrs & additional 3 if you register. If you don't register you still get 2 yrs on the GPU