Nintendo Wii U - sequel to the smash hit Wii | No trolling

[heidi2521]

PS Vita is now crushing Nintendo’s Wii U

Now this is pure info. No flame bait or any debate generating material.

I made the mistake of reading a thread where you post without being logged in.

The article is misleading, sensationalist bullshit. The article doesn't link to any sources at all.

The latest media create report says that the Wii U sold 7060 units while the Vita sold 31271.

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A less sensationalist article would say something like:

In Japan, the Vita, after having received a significant price cut, sold ~25,000 more units that the Wii U on the week it had a massively hyped up release (the 3rd biggest to date), while the Wii U, a home console for which the last major release was Dragon Quest X in march, a port of a Wii MMO, continued at its baseline of 7000. The Wii U continues to comfortably outsell the Vita in North America while they are neck to neck in europe, the Vita having a slight edge due to the United Kingdom.

BGR is worse than GameTrailers when it comes to this. They take a **** on Nintendo at every opportunity they get. Hell, they managed to spin the massive sales of the 3DS into Nintendoomed.

Nintendo 3DS sales analysis: success may not translate beyond Japan | BGR

Fun fact: The Wii U had sold ~4mn units in 7 months while the Vita had sold ~3.8 - 4mn units in 17 months, most of the sales for the Vita coming from a market where it received a large price cut.

Approximated from the charts released by Nintendo in their annual shareholders meeting and official sales figures released earlier.

*www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/stock/meeting/130627qa/img/slide03_l.jpg

*www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/stock/meeting/130627qa/img/slide02_l.jpg

*www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/stock/meeting/130627qa/img/slide04_l.jpg

The 73rd Annual General Meeting of Shareholders Q & A

 

[NoasArcAngel]

News: Nintendo CEO accepts blame for disappointing Wii U sales - ComputerAndVideoGames.com

at least they are honest about it, unlike microsoft who just troll for the sake of trolling.

Nintendo fans call for an end to region-locking » Barrel Roll Gaming



Boo ****ing hoo. Won't anyone think of the children?

Just make it possible to disable region free through the parental controls just like you can disable access to games based on rating in parental controls.

well it looks like, nintendo is far from even listening to what gamers have to say.

 

[vickybat]

well it looks like, nintendo is far from even listening to what gamers have to say.

Yup and the results are definitely reflecting in their sales charts.

Miyamoto Says Wii U's HD Dev Costs Are Higher Than Expected

 

[heidi2521]

News: Nintendo CEO accepts blame for disappointing Wii U sales - ComputerAndVideoGames.com

at least they are honest about it, unlike microsoft who just troll for the sake of trolling.



well it looks like, nintendo is far from even listening to what gamers have to say.

Except for creating the NSMB line, 60 hz VC F-Zero, localization of Xenoblade, The Last Story & Pandora's Tower, Mother 2/Earthbound VC and european release, Sin and Punishment localization and sequel, (slowly) moving towards a unified account system, creating Twilight Princess based on feedback received from Wind Waker, removing tripping in Super Smash Bros 4, refinements made to OOT3D based on feedback from OOTMQ & the original OOT, taking over Bravely Default: Flying Fairy from Square Enix because fans wanted it localized but SE were being the cheapasses they are, rebalancing the Pokemon metagame to make dragon type less overpowered, creating an initiative to help japanese devs bring their games over to the west, especially if they have fan demand, creating a sequel to Yoshi's Island, enabling the filtering of player posts in Miiverse, the refinements to the final fetch quest in TWWHD, returning to pure platforming based on the feedback on FLUDD, rebalancing karts so that snaking wasn't so overpowered, all the glorious fanservice in Smash, partnering with Atlus to bring their future 3DS games to europe starting with Shin Megami Tensei IV, reviving Bayonetta after Sega had killed her etc.

Just because they didn't go "Gamers, we listened to you. We decided not to **** you over unlike our competition" doesn't mean that they aren't listening to feedback and what gamers want.

Yup and the results are definitely reflecting in their sales charts.

I know right. They only sold more hardware units than their main competition combined in the last generation and the 3DS is just the top selling platform on the market right now.

 

[vickybat]

I know right. They only sold more hardware units than their main competition combined in the last generation and the 3DS is just the top selling platform on the market right now.

Worldwide sales figures

Wii – 99.84 million as of 31 March 2013
PlayStation 3 – 75 million as of 9 February 2013[53] (IDC March 2013 estimate: "78 million")
Xbox 360 – 77.2 million as of 31 March 2013

Source

How the heck it sold more hardware units than the combined sales of its last gen competitors? The way i see it, its going to get surpassed by each individual consoles in a year and half time.
At least i can vouch for the PS3 to do so.

And by that comment, i was referring the Wii U sales.

 

[cyborg47]

99.84mil > 155.2mil.
Why? Because F logic, that's why

Though I never knew Wii sold 100 mil units..that's a feat.

 

[NoasArcAngel]

Except for creating the NSMB line, 60 hz VC F-Zero, localization of Xenoblade, The Last Story & Pandora's Tower, Mother 2/Earthbound VC and european release, Sin and Punishment localization and sequel, (slowly) moving towards a unified account system, creating Twilight Princess based on feedback received from Wind Waker, removing tripping in Super Smash Bros 4, refinements made to OOT3D based on feedback from OOTMQ & the original OOT, taking over Bravely Default: Flying Fairy from Square Enix because fans wanted it localized but SE were being the cheapasses they are, rebalancing the Pokemon metagame to make dragon type less overpowered, creating an initiative to help japanese devs bring their games over to the west, especially if they have fan demand, creating a sequel to Yoshi's Island, enabling the filtering of player posts in Miiverse, the refinements to the final fetch quest in TWWHD, returning to pure platforming based on the feedback on FLUDD, rebalancing karts so that snaking wasn't so overpowered, all the glorious fanservice in Smash, partnering with Atlus to bring their future 3DS games to europe starting with Shin Megami Tensei IV, reviving Bayonetta after Sega had killed her etc.

Just because they didn't go "Gamers, we listened to you. We decided not to **** you over unlike our competition" doesn't mean that they aren't listening to feedback and what gamers want.




I know right. They only sold more hardware units than their main competition combined in the last generation and the 3DS is just the top selling platform on the market right now.

i know right..! ? they just dont listen.

3DS... is mobile platform, you wanna compare... ? compare it to on how many phones temple run runs. Then we talk numbers.

the sequel, somehow i feel good that sony did not start making crashing bandicoot sequels to such an extent that they would be even making them today. which would be a little over 18 years if i am not wrong.

 

[skeletor]

well, at one point of time - somehwere around 2009, Wii had pretty much as much sales as Xbox 360 and PS3 combined.

99.84mil > 155.2mil.
Why? Because F logic, that's why

Though I never knew Wii sold 100 mil units..that's a feat.

dead5's adding DS's sales "hardware units" as well. DS has sold 154 million units.

Since you never knew that Wii has sold 100m units, I guess you also don't know the fact that DS has sold twice as many units as PSP.

Dunno why people bring up PS Vita. Handheld gaming is dead. That thing is an even bigger flop than Wii U. It has sold less units than Wii U in thrice as much time. Only 3DS is somehow surviving (selling well actually) and should be the last handheld console which actually sold well.

 

[NoasArcAngel]

well, at one point of time - somehwere around 2009, Wii had pretty much as much sales as Xbox 360 and PS3 combined.


dead5's adding DS's sales "hardware units" as well. DS has sold 154 million units.

Since you never knew that Wii has sold 100m units, I guess you also don't know the fact that DS has sold twice as many units as PSP.

Dunno why people bring up PS Vita. Handheld gaming is dead. Only 3DS is somehow surviving (selling well actually) and should be the last handheld console which actually sold well.

exactly my point. But also in your reply lies the key, in 2009 wii was selling combined units. But people lose interest over time therefore sustainability was a very core issue which nintendo failed to address even in wii-u. There is only so much you can milk out of 30 year old franchises and motion gaming.

that is what people today are failing to understand. Nintendo needs to revamp its stratergy. Sometimes having 10billion$ in the bank doesnt mean you will survive in the future as a company.

Nintendo's main business is under direct threat from mobile phones / tablets / android gaming systems along with ps4 and xbox not to add pc to that list. The ps3 has proved that exclusives can sell a console. Nintendo has few exclusives ( pardon the expression ) in the sense that they are not able to bring much to the table in terms of gameplay and graphics.

Lets face it, however old shchool you and your thoughts may be, its always the gameplay i.e. cinematics and story and the graphics which sell the game, or its fun factor. Nintendo is missing all of these.

 

[skeletor]

Games come with time. 3DS was branded as a flop when it was launched. It has surprised me. Same was with PS3, it had very few games when it was launched and was being outsold by Xbox 360 and Wii. It turned a corner. Next, if purely hardware/graphics performance was the only thing which mattered, then Gamecube having the fastest hardware in that generation should have outsold PS2. It didn't. PS2 was actually with the weakest hardware in that generation but had the games.

Judge Wii U by the end of 2014. If it gets outsold by PS4 and Xbox One despite having a year advantage, then Nintendo has failed. One could say the same thing that "Sony has failed vs Xbox 360" in 2008 when Xbox 360 had more sales and online players.

Just get good games, the platform will thrive. That's the only thing which matters. Not "graphics" and "hardware".

 

[NoasArcAngel]

Games come with time. 3DS was branded as a flop when it was launched. It has surprised me. Same was with PS3, it had very few games when it was launched and was being outsold by Xbox 360 and Wii. It turned a corner. Next, if purely hardware/graphics performance was the only thing which mattered, then Gamecube having the fastest hardware in that generation should have outsold PS2. It didn't. PS2 was actually with the weakest hardware in that generation but had the games.

Judge Wii U by the end of 2014. If it gets outsold by PS4 and Xbox One despite having a year advantage, then Nintendo has failed. One could say the same thing that "Sony has failed vs Xbox 360" in 2008 when Xbox 360 had more sales and online players.

Just get good games, the platform will thrive. That's the only thing which matters. Not "graphics" and "hardware".

in todays age, both matter equally. Specially when you do not need to spend 2000$ building a pc just to run a game and then find out it runs at 30fps @ 1024x768 .

 

[cyborg47]

Since you never knew that Wii has sold 100m units, I guess you also don't know the fact that DS has sold twice as many units as PSP.

I knew Wii was a success, but 100mil is definitely a wow. Same goes with 3DS* as well, afai could remember, it was the huge price drop(and eventually the games..) that turned the numbers making the console into a monster, wasn't it?

dead5's adding DS's sales "hardware units" as well. DS has sold 154 million units.

Oh okay, I thought it was just Wii, ps3 and x360. Though adding the 3DS or DS sales isn't a fair comparison.

 

[Extreme Gamer]

He's added DS sales. I think it is quite clear that 3DS was mentioned separately. Please read carefully instead of responding carelessly.

DS sales didn't bolster because of the huge price drop- that was the case for the 3DS. Don't mix up the two. They are different consoles from different generations.

In the end it doesn't matter what causes sales to fall or rise. What matters is how many units are sold.

 

[cyborg47]

Wait, if DS wasn't from last gen at all, why were its sales being added to the comparison with PS3/x360 gen sales?

 

[Extreme Gamer]

Wait, if DS wasn't from last gen at all, why were its sales being added to the comparison with PS3/x360 gen sales?

Wow I can't believe you just said that. How does anything posted above even remotely hint at that? Or are you in trollmode since the past few weeks (no offense intended)?

3DS is in the same generation as Wii U. (8th Generation)

DS is in the same generation as the Wii. (7th Generation)

Is that clear for you now?

 

[cyborg47]

Wow I can't believe you just said that. How does anything posted above even remotely hint at that? Or are you in trollmode since the past few weeks (no offense intended)?

3DS is in the same generation as Wii U. (8th Generation)

DS is in the same generation as the Wii. (7th Generation)

Is that clear for you now?

Its alright, calm down. I just thought the sales comparison was unfair, no problem if you think otherwise

 

[Extreme Gamer]

Its alright, calm down. I just thought the sales comparison was unfair, no problem if you think otherwise

It's not alright. You've been posting a lot of weird stuff and twisting everything being said if it didn't appeal to your tastes (unintentionally or otherwise I do not know).

And how is it unfair by any means? You should back up what you say, you know.

 

[cyborg47]

And how is it unfair by any means? You should back up what you say, you know.

Adding handled sales to the AAA console sales? A fair comparison would be between Wii, PS3, x360 instead of adding the DS or 3DS or PSP or PSVITA sales to them. Though I don't mind if you or anybody wants do it, I just thought it was unfair, Nintedo must have sold literally 100s of millions of their gaming stuff since the moment they started the company in the 60s which MS or Sony can't even imagine doing. Oh, and I still love you

 

[skeletor]

Calm down the tone Extreme Gamer. What you wrote can be said politely.

 

[Extreme Gamer]

Adding handled sales to the AAA console sales? A fair comparison would be between Wii, PS3, x360 instead of adding the DS or 3DS or PSP or PSVITA sales to them. Though I don't mind if you or anybody wants do it, I just thought it was unfair, Nintedo must have sold literally 100s of millions of their gaming stuff since the moment they started the company in the 60s which MS or Sony can't even imagine doing. Oh, and I still love you

Then it is unfair to compare even the Wii to the PS3 and the Xbox. Most Wii games had lower budgets than PS3/X360 games.

And why would handhelds not get AAA games? Just because the hardware is weaker vs. home platforms? There are considerable numbers of AAA games on handheld platforms (Monster Hunter on PSP and Pokemon on DS, for example)

In the end, you're comparing dedicated gaming devices to dedicated gaming devices. It isn't unfair to compare them with each other. As long as your parameters for each object being compared is equal, it is absolutely fair.

If the DS was added, the PSP was not removed.

@ico: I wasn't trying to sound rude or be offensive. Sorry about that.