The Photography Thread

[rishitells]

if u r really serious about your hobby u can go for DSLR
A DSLR is heavy, and u will need special lenses...Its a costly hobby

if its just about taking good quality pics (except low light situations) then even SX130IS will work fine..

In low light situations no one can beat a dslr..

pics r grainy in p&S due to automatic ISO selection...take pics in manual mode and u will get fine pics
Blurring is a human error...when in full zoom a slight movement can get blurry pics...

And please read some book and experiment a lot

One difference I noticed clearly in dSLR and P&S cameras is that when you take a picture that has details for example a village landscape or an old hindu temple (you know how detailed they are ), P&S stands nowhere in front of dSLR when it comes to clarity, detail, sharpness and color quality, no matter how expensive a p&s is, isn't it?

So I am planning to buy dSLR, but will use it like a P&S initially, untill I read books and experiment a lot Plz tell me if my decision is right.
Thanks for the valuable suggestions

 

[toofan]

One difference I noticed clearly in dSLR and P&S cameras is that when you take a picture that has details for example a village landscape or an old hindu temple (you know how detailed they are ), P&S stands nowhere in front of dSLR when it comes to clarity, detail, sharpness and color quality, no matter how expensive a p&s is, isn't it?

So I am planning to buy dSLR, but will use it like a P&S initially, untill I read books and experiment a lot Plz tell me if my decision is right.
Thanks for the valuable suggestions

Ok I guess there will be some time for you shopping so let me confuse you with your choice.

Check Nikon D3100 also its a 14 MP cam with very advanced features. It may be available for around 25k in grey. I had heard a lot of good things about this cam.
nikon has best kit lenses for there cams. So nikons 18-55mm VR is far better then canon's 18-55 NON IS.
Canon 1000 is shipped with a NON IS kit lens. As per my knowledge do check this.

 

[a_medico]

^^ Canon is shipped with IS kit lenses. Even on Canon.in they have 18-55 IS. For example

The border effect looks much better Thanks.

What is CA by the way?

 

[rishitells]

Ok I guess there will be some time for you shopping so let me confuse you with your choice.

Check Nikon D3100 also its a 14 MP cam with very advanced features. It may be available for around 25k in grey. I had heard a lot of good things about this cam.
nikon has best kit lenses for there cams. So nikons 18-55mm VR is far better then canon's 18-55 NON IS.
Canon 1000 is shipped with a NON IS kit lens. As per my knowledge do check this.

So Nikon d3100 is really better than canon 1000d?

 

[toofan]

^^ Canon is shipped with IS kit lenses. Even on Canon.in they have 18-55 IS. For example

The border effect looks much better Thanks.

What is CA by the way?

Chromatic Aberration. Generally the purple fringing around the outlines of subject takes place with low quality glass. That is why a dedicated macro lenses are made.

So Nikon d3100 is really better than canon 1000d?

Sure. At current time Nikon is way ahead of Canon but only till they release there next model.

 

[sujoyp]

So Nikon d3100 is really better than canon 1000d?

D3100 is really good...great ISO, full HD recording, AF-F in video,much better body, more buttons

As the sensor of DSLR is much larger then P&S it tend to capture more details...any P&S dont stand a chance against SLR...

And please learn the art of photography after purchasing SLR

 

[icebags]

D3100 is really good...great ISO, full HD recording, AF-F in video,much better body, more buttons

As the sensor of DSLR is much larger then P&S it tend to capture more details...any P&S dont stand a chance against SLR...

And please learn the art of photography after purchasing SLR

DSLR video qualities are often not good enough to brag about, 3100 video suffers from blurry effects @ camera movements.

p&s are no match for DSLRs in low light or image details, very true. but never forget lens is the main thing, third party cheaper lenses can not produce the image quality of some top level p&s cams from panasonic, cannon or fuji - because of the fine lenses they come with.

 

[sujoyp]

DSLR video qualities are often not good enough to brag about, 3100 video suffers from blurry effects @ camera movements.

p&s are no match for DSLRs in low light or image details, very true. but never forget lens is the main thing, third party cheaper lenses can not produce the image quality of some top level p&s cams from panasonic, cannon or fuji - because of the fine lenses they come with.

its a known fact that the kit lens that comes with D3100 is not fast enough in focusing in video...due to continuous focus it had to focus again and again..
A better solution is to get a fast focusing lens..

and y do u even compare lens quality of a P&S with a dedicated lens...most of the P&S have Chromatic Aberration on full zoom thats telephoto end...there is purple fringing and barrel distortion...
just check the cheap kit lens 18-55 its much sharper...

 

[rishitells]

ok.....thanks guys...but one of my friend also needs a compact p&s camera with best possible quality.
I've suggested him canon powershot SX130 IS, not because of superzoom, but considering the quality and functions of camera. Are there better alternatives from canon or other brands. I also searched for Nikon Coolpix cameras, especially the S series.
Now I am really, really confused guys. Please tell one single camera within a budget of 11000-13000 (he can't extend much). Main requirement is image clarity and detail, with some useful functions. I consider the sx130 or sx120 is the best in its range, plzz help guys, now its a dilemma for us.

 

[sujoyp]

yup ur decisions is right

for 11-13k = Canon SX130IS

Canon SX120IS was very popular due to good quality pics and full manual control

 

[Cool G5]

ok.....thanks guys...but one of my friend also needs a compact p&s camera with best possible quality.
I've suggested him canon powershot SX130 IS, not because of superzoom, but considering the quality and functions of camera. Are there better alternatives from canon or other brands. I also searched for Nikon Coolpix cameras, especially the S series.
Now I am really, really confused guys. Please tell one single camera within a budget of 11000-13000 (he can't extend much). Main requirement is image clarity and detail, with some useful functions. I consider the sx130 or sx120 is the best in its range, plzz help guys, now its a dilemma for us.

Go with SX130IS for the wide angle lens over the SX120IS.
Nikon coolpix are okish cameras.

 

[a_medico]

I have one basic Nikon P&S. I was not too impressed with the quality of Nikon. So I wanted to try something different while buying DSLR, so I opted for Canon and I am not complaining.

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New leaves..new lives.

 

[Stuge]

Grand closing


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@medico: close down the aperture a bit

 

[a_medico]

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[rishitells]

I have one basic Nikon P&S. I was not too impressed with the quality of Nikon. So I wanted to try something different while buying DSLR, so I opted for Canon and I am not complaining.

so u purchased canon dSLR?
Though Nikon D3100 is great, but I still found Canon EOS 1000d better option, isn't it? In CameraLabs review test, they have rated it "Highly Recommended" and for d3100, its just "Recommended".

So before making final buy, I need so much help from you friends. After all I am an absolute beginner and have no prior experience in photography, and I am not familiar with the whopping functions of dSLR. But hope its not really difficult thing to learn.

 

[a_medico]

Yes. Canon EOS 500D. My lens is the basic 18-55mm. Others were out of my budget during the purchase.

500D + 18-55mm IS lens + 16GB card + Bag + Few filters + small tripod --- I got it all for Rs 32500 from US. It should be costlier by 10-15K in India, I believe.

But as Toofan pointed out, Nikon has better lens options.

Photography is my very recent hobby, say 2-3 mons old. I asked similar questions on this forum like you during the initial period. I had it all, the ebooks, videos etc on photography. But frankly, none helped me. I didn't even feel like opening them. I was enlightened when I attended a 2day basic photography workshop in Mumbai. It really helped me alot. There were so many basic functions which I was just not aware of. I was literally using my DSLR as a P&S on auto mode in the first month. I am glad atleast I am aware of the basic functions now , though it will take sometime for me
to master them. This forum is of great help. There are JJmehta, steves forum etc but I dont feel comfortable there, like I am here. Its just initial months and I guess I will only improve


A query - As a beginner, I am happy with closeup filter kit (+1 +2 +4 and Macro) for close photography. Do they have similar filters for distant photography too, which could be attached infront of my basic 18-55mm lens?

 

[jagg89]

Hey guys i Finally got my new cam Panasonic Lumix FZ35 its Awsumm!!
it was not easily available i asked at many places but was not in stock finally at 1 panasonic brandshop the guy said he can get it but it took him 12 days to arrange but it was worth waiting
I chose it over canon Sx20 as i did'nt wanted the AA batt. and also i found image stabalization n Focusing speed better in FZ35 n i think i made the right decision...

i came online after so many days as i was very sick n was on bed for last 10 days
will try out the cam now n post sm test shots soon..

n finally thnx all for helping n giving ur suggestions all the tym

 

[rishitells]

Hey guys i Finally got my new cam Panasonic Lumix FZ35 its Awsumm!!

Congrats!
For how much did u purchase it?

 

[Cool G5]

A query - As a beginner, I am happy with closeup filter kit (+1 +2 +4 and Macro) for close photography. Do they have similar filters for distant photography too, which could be attached infront of my basic 18-55mm lens?

You do get a filter which can get useful for shooting distant subjects. They are known as Teleconverters. They extend your focal length(zoom of lens) when you use them. For e.g a 2x teleconverter will make the 18-55 lens a 36-110mm lens. Though this luxury comes at the price of speed. The minimum aperture of your lens also gets doubled so you if you attach a 50mm f/2.0 lens to a 2x teleconverter it will be read as 100mm f/4.0. This will mean you'll have to use a tripod if you're using slower lenses like the kit lens. Also teleconverters affect sharpness of the lenses & cheap ones can cause flaring. They are advisable for use if you own a good fast lenses. Also since the aperture gets doubled(if you use a 2x teleconverter) the depth of field is increases. Good if you are shooting landscapes but bad for portraits and other stuff which require a shallow DOF.

 

[Stuge]

You do get a filter which can get useful for shooting distant subjects. They are known as Teleconverters. They extend your focal length(zoom of lens) when you use them. For e.g a 2x teleconverter will make the 18-55 lens a 36-110mm lens. Though this luxury comes at the price of speed. The minimum aperture of your lens also gets doubled so you if you attach a 50mm f/2.0 lens to a 2x teleconverter it will be read as 100mm f/4.0. This will mean you'll have to use a tripod if you're using slower lenses like the kit lens. Also teleconverters affect sharpness of the lenses & cheap ones can cause flaring. They are advisable for use if you own a good fast lenses. Also since the aperture gets doubled(if you use a 2x teleconverter) the depth of field is increases. Good if you are shooting landscapes but bad for portraits and other stuff which require a shallow DOF.

you don't use teleconvertors for slow lenses like 18-55mm.teleconvertors are only available for fast lenses like f2.8 .

@medico : thanks