Upgrading-Converting my old home PC .

[adityak469]

Well, this is indeed valuable input for mother board & processor. Thanks 2kool2btrue.
But no idea on Zotac card quality on Nvidia GTX?

Waiting for festive offer to grab components at great discount.

Zotac Cards are good enough. They offer 5 years warranty, others offer 1 year or two year.

Festive offer is going on and no GTX 750 on it. If it doesn't come on sale, get [url]*mdcomputers.in/sapphire-graphics-card-r7-250-1gb-ddr5-with-boost.html [/URL] or [url]*mdcomputers.in/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=2949 [/URL]

 

[matrixx]

Hey! I'd suggest a slight modification here

Pentium G3220 - Rs 3150 (locally. check - *costtocost.in/list/pricelist.pdf)
Gigabyte H81M-S1 - Rs. 3300 (3311 on flipkart right now)
4GB DDR3 RAM - Rs. 2700

Zotac GTX 750 - Rs. 7k

Thanks adityak469 & 2kool2btrue.

Bold parts - FINAL
Blue inked - little confusion as having advice for R7240-1GB-DDR5. Now, we have 3 cards: GTX-750 & Zotac-750, plus R7-240?

Zotac Cards are good enough. They offer 5 years warranty, others offer 1 year or two year.

Festive offer is going on and no GTX 750 on it. If it doesn't come on sale, get [url]*mdcomputers.in/sapphire-graphics-card-r7-250-1gb-ddr5-with-boost.html [/URL] or [url]*mdcomputers.in/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=2949 [/URL]

5 yr Warranty is good but Zotac brand value v/s Nvidia & AMD value, puts my finger crossed! Suggestions plz.

 

[adityak469]

Thanks adityak469 & 2kool2btrue.

Bold parts - FINAL
Blue inked - little confusion as having advice for R7240-1GB-DDR5. Now, we have 3 cards: GTX-750 & Zotac-750, plus R7-240?


5 yr Warranty is good but Zotac brand value v/s Nvidia & AMD value, puts my finger crossed! Suggestions plz.

Arrey GTX is not a company It's like a name.

If you are going with 7k GPU, 750 wins if it's available at that rate otherwise go with GT 740.

 

[2kool2btrue]

Skip the r7 240. It's not exactly a gaming GPU. Get a Zotac gtx750 if you find it at a lower price or else get a Sapphire R7-250 1gb gddr5 (~6k).make sure it's the ddr5 variant and not ddr3(2gb)

 

[adityak469]

Skip the r7 240. It's not exactly a gaming GPU. Get a Zotac gtx750 if you find it at a lower price or else get a Sapphire R7-250 1gb gddr5 (~6k).make sure it's the ddr5 variant and not ddr3(2gb)

GT 740>R7 250 on GPUboss ..

 

[2kool2btrue]

GT 740>R7 250 on GPUboss ..

Even if it is 10% faster than the R7 250, it requires a 6 pin PCIe connector which requires the use of a good PSU. So no, a GT 740 is not recommended at all. (A better buy even in that case would be an R7- 250x)

OP, stick with the R7 250 if you can't get the GTX 750 at that price.

Also, if you're open to buying a used GPU, you could get a used AMD HD7770(in warranty) for ~5-5.3k and buy a brand new Antec VP450P for 2.4k. Win-Win situation!

 

[matrixx]

Even if it is 10% faster than the R7 250, it requires a 6 pin PCIe connector which requires the use of a good PSU. So no, a GT 740 is not recommended at all. (A better buy even in that case would be an R7- 250x)

OP, stick with the R7 250 if you can't get the GTX 750 at that price.

Also, if you're open to buying a used GPU, you could get a used AMD HD7770(in warranty) for ~5-5.3k and buy a brand new Antec VP450P for 2.4k. Win-Win situation!

Received technical word for current 4d PSU (photo attached)
There's another problem - PSU won't have a 24-pin ATX connector, and the additional 4 pins are for powering the PCIe slot for your GPU. No power for the GPU = no boot.

I'm again confuse whether I can use GT-750 or GT-740 or R7 card with keeping old PSU-4d, as described above.

 

[2kool2btrue]

Received technical word for current 4d PSU (photo attached)View attachment 14880
There's another problem - PSU won't have a 24-pin ATX connector, and the additional 4 pins are for powering the PCIe slot for your GPU. No power for the GPU = no boot.

I'm again confuse whether I can use GT-750 or GT-740 or R7 card with keeping old PSU-4d, as described above.

Can you post the pic on some other site like imgur? Can't seem to open the image

 

[matrixx]

can you post the pic on some other site like imgur? Can't seem to open the image

sorry no access to imgur... photo again attached.

plain text of psu:-

4d switching power supply
model: Atx-450w

ac input "voltage-230v" "current-5a" "frequency-50hz"

dc output
orange red yellow white blue purple grey
-3.3 v +5 v +12v -5v -12v 5v pig
22a 23a 22a 16a 0.5a 2a ok

Pardon me for formatting. not able to put up in tabulate form.

 

[adityak469]

sorry no access to imgur... photo again attached.

plain text of psu:-

4dswitching power supply
model: Atx-450w

ac input"voltage-230v""current-5a""frequency-50hz"

dc output
orange red yellow whiteblue purple grey
-3.3 v +5 v +12v -5v -12v 5v pig
22a 23a 22a 16a 0.5a 2a ok

Pardon me for formatting. not able to put up in tabulate form.

Dude that PSU is a local brand and no matter what they wrote, it won't live up to that. If you are getting a GTX 740/750 then that PSU will do OK but anything else and it may go kaput.

 

[matrixx]

Dude that PSU is a local brand and no matter what they wrote, it won't live up to that. If you are getting a GTX 740/750 then that PSU will do OK but anything else and it may go kaput.

Do you think GTX 740/750 can be power up by this PSU assuming it has 20-pin ATX connector only.

See technical response below (from other forum) on this point:-

There's another problem - it won't have a 24-pin ATX connector, and the additional 4 pins are for powering the PCIe slot for your GPU. No power for the GPU = no boot.

PSUs these days have all their power concentrated on the 12V rail, because thats what most modern PCs use. A 450W PSU will have atleast 400W on the 12V rail.
The 12V rail in your '450W' PSU has only 22A ; 12V x 22A => 264W. Again this is just their rating on the sticker (no test conditions mentioned) which means it's usually exaggerated.

 

[adityak469]

Do you think GTX 740/750 can be power up by this PSU assuming it has 20-pin ATX connector only.

See technical response below (from other forum) on this point:-

There's another problem - it won't have a 24-pin ATX connector, and the additional 4 pins are for powering the PCIe slot for your GPU. No power for the GPU = no boot.

PSUs these days have all their power concentrated on the 12V rail, because thats what most modern PCs use. A 450W PSU will have atleast 400W on the 12V rail.
The 12V rail in your '450W' PSU has only 22A ; 12V x 22A => 264W. Again this is just their rating on the sticker (no test conditions mentioned) which means it's usually exaggerated.

You don't need extra power pin to power the GPU. GTX 740/750 uses power directly from the PCI slot. And that psu is not reliable.

 

[matrixx]

If you are getting a GTX 740/750 then that PSU will do OK but anything else and it may go kaput.

You don't need extra power pin to power the GPU. GTX 740/750 uses power directly from the PCI slot. And that psu is not reliable.

What!! its contradictory wording on PSU!!

Also, 20-pin cable not powering the PCI slot from where any GPU (even GTX) extract power. As I understood 20+4=24 pin ATX connector powering mother board and 4 pin is made for GPU power. See photo attached.

 

[adityak469]

What!! its contradictory wording on PSU!!

Also, 20-pin cable not powering the PCI slot from where any GPU (even GTX) extract power. As I understood 20+4=24 pin ATX connector powering mother board and 4 pin is made for GPU power. See photo attached.View attachment 14884

Yes its contradictory. GTX 750/740's power consumption is low and hence it can work on it temporarily. I already told you to buy the components and then later on buy a new PSU like VP450p.

 

[adityak469]

I can't see the pic and why is that pic a gif?
And there are adapters to convert 20 pin to 24pin.

 

[2kool2btrue]

What!! its contradictory wording on PSU!!

Also, 20-pin cable not powering the PCI slot from where any GPU (even GTX) extract power. As I understood 20+4=24 pin ATX connector powering mother board and 4 pin is made for GPU power. See photo attached.View attachment 14884

Don't risk it anyway. I'll tell you why -
1. The capacitors life deteriorates. This is valid for high quality PSU's as well and in your case, the unit is already unreliable as is.
2. If you cheap out on the PSU, you jeopardize the other vital components in your system. More so in your case.

Therefore, get a decent PSU from the outset.

 

[matrixx]

Hey! I'd suggest a slight modification here

Pentium G3220 - Rs 3150 (locally. check - *costtocost.in/list/pricelist.pdf)
Gigabyte H81M-S1 - Rs. 3300 (3311 on flipkart right now)
4GB DDR3 RAM - Rs. 2700
Zotac GTX 750 - Rs. 7k (I'm not sure how we're coming to 7k on this).

The CPU and motherboard are newer tech(Socket LGA1150, the same which 4th gen core i processors use) and should offer a better upgrade path in the future Even performance wise the G3220 is 10% faster and the H81 supports 2 x USB3 ports and 2 x SATA 6.0 ports. A better buy than the H61 - G2030 combo

Don't risk it anyway. I'll tell you why -
1. The capacitors life deteriorates. This is valid for high quality PSU's as well and in your case, the unit is already unreliable as is.
2. If you cheap out on the PSU, you jeopardize the other vital components in your system. More so in your case.

Therefore, get a decent PSU from the outset.

[MENTION=232182]2kool2btrue[/MENTION], thanks Bro. New PSU IN.

Which PSU should be best VFM for your suggested rig above.

Also, GTX 750 -where can i get at cheaper rate-7k? Is R7-750 available less price than GTX 750 -7k?

 

[adityak469]

[MENTION=232182]2kool2btrue[/MENTION], thanks Bro. New PSU IN.

Which PSU should be best VFM for your suggested rig above.

Also, GTX 750 -where can i get at cheaper rate-7k? Is R7-750 available less price than GTX 750 -7k?

Antec VP450p will do fine.
And there's no card like R7-750 its R7 250, R7 250x (these are AMD cards) and GTX 740,750 (nVidia cards). If GTX 750 isn't available for 7k, get GTX 740.

 

[matrixx]

Hey! I'd suggest a slight modification here

Pentium G3220 - Rs 3150 (locally. check - *costtocost.in/list/pricelist.pdf)
Gigabyte H81M-S1 - Rs. 3300 (3311 on flipkart right now)
4GB DDR3 RAM - Rs. 2700
Zotac GTX 750 - Rs. 7k (I'm not sure how we're coming to 7k on this).

[MENTION=232182]2kool2btrue[/MENTION], thanks Bro. New PSU IN.

Which PSU should be best VFM for your suggested rig above.

Also, GTX 750 -where can i get at cheaper rate-7k? Is R7-250 DDR-5 available less price than GTX 750 -7k?

Antec VP450p will do fine.
And there's no card like R7-750 its R7 250, R7 250x (these are AMD cards) and GTX 740,750 (nVidia cards). If GTX 750 isn't available for 7k, get GTX 740.

thanks adityak469. yup, my mistake its R7 250.

Now, lets wait for our friend-2kool2btrue opinion also...

 

[2kool2btrue]

thanks adityak469. yup, my mistake its R7 250.

Now, lets wait for our friend-2kool2btrue opinion also...

I doubt the GT 740 doesnt require a 6 pin connector. On most places I see, it needs one. So a PSU is must in this case. Therefore, the R7 250 wins.

PS - Get the HD7770. I can see a fantastic deal on flipkart for it for 7144 only. An HD7770 kicks the GT740 and R7 250's butt! You'll need a 6 pin connector for it though and since FK has 10% off if you use an SBI credit/debit card you could get the GPU for 6430 and an H81 motherboard for 3000. Win-Win situation!