triple monitor workstationbudget - 100k

liyzag1 · Mar 30, 2016

`hi,

i wanted to buy a triple monitor setup, budget is 1 lakh rupees

can someone please help me with a few configs as i have never had a desktop , only macbook but i need this setup for work.

i will be using it for a lot of excel sheets, movies, youtube, email, browsing, music,

what is important to me is good monitors. full HD

please help

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: excel sheets(lots of them), movies, browsing, music, email,

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: 100k

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: no clue

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans:windows 10

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans:2tb

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans:yes , need 3 monitors (please recommend)

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans:need to buy all

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans:ASAP

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans:nehru place

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans:new delhi, please name good shops in nehru place

11. Anything else which you would like to say?

thanks in advance

SaiyanGoku · Mar 30, 2016

First of all, why do you need three monitors for?

liyzag1 · Mar 30, 2016

for work,

bssunilreddy · Mar 30, 2016

Budget - 101k (Modified)

Processor	Intel Xeon E3-1246 V3	22,700
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master Hyper 212X	2,900
Motherboard	Asus H97-PRO	10,000
Memory	Corsair Vengeance 16GB(8GBx2) 1600Mhz	7,000
Graphics Card	Asus GTX750Ti 2GB	10,400
SSD	Samsung 850 Evo 120GB	4,500
Power Supply	Seasonic M12II 520w	5,900
Cabinet	Corsair SPEC-01	3,500
Internal Storage	WD Caviar Blue 1TB	3,500
Optical Drive	Asus DRW 24B3ST DVD R/W	1,000
Monitor	Dell S2216H 22" LED IPS x3	27,000
Keyboard	Cooler Master Devastator KB and Mouse Combo	2,600
Mouse	Included in the Combo	0
	Total	1,01,000

nac · Mar 30, 2016

Even on board graphic of Pentium can handle 3 monitors and OP isn't not into gaming. Pretty much all the intended use of OP don't demand a quad core. So I don't see the point of hitting roof of his budget just because he has money. He can very well spend the rest of the money for something like setting up his workstation (a table which can accommodate 3 monitors or multi monitor stand, nice and comfortable chair etc...).

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I personally feel an i3 should be suffice for his need. If connecting 3 monitors just using on board graphic make the CPU hot, after market cooler is justifiable to include in the build. I think 8GB is more than enough. UPS is kinda must when it comes to work related build unless he already has something for the entire home/office.

singh_dd93 · Mar 30, 2016

I think OP should opt for atleast i5. My dad is CA and when he is working with lots of Excel files the systems hangs a lot. Its a i5 3rd Gen with 8 gigs of RAM and Dual Monitors + 850 Evo SSD.

More over if you have the budget get a bigger SSD to keep excel files on it. It will really help.

a_k_s_h_a_y · Mar 30, 2016

You need quad core for work computers.

Sure gamers don't need more cores as of today. But work computers need more and more cores. And hyper-threading adds tremendous value.
Work computers also are better with 2 monitors. Huge productivity boost.

So yeah, 3 Dell monitors, 16gb RAM, SSD is the way to go.

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Even for gaming 8gb is now so outdated. Workstations need that 16gb ram for smooth multi-tasking.

nac said:
Even on board graphic of Pentium can handle 3 monitors and OP isn't not into gaming. Pretty much all the intended use of OP don't demand a quad core. So I don't see the point of hitting roof of his budget just because he has money. He can very well spend the rest of the money for something like setting up his workstation (a table which can accommodate 3 monitors or multi monitor stand, nice and comfortable chair etc...).

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I personally feel an i3 should be suffice for his need. If connecting 3 monitors just using on board graphic make the CPU hot, after market cooler is justifiable to include in the build. I think 8GB is more than enough. UPS is kinda must when it comes to work related build unless he already has something for the entire home/office.

liyzag1 · Mar 31, 2016

so is the above config good or should i change cpu to i5 ??? and which i5 ??

also i would like 23 or 24 inch monitors , and is the gpu good enough to power 3 screens ??

thanks guys fr the help

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a_k_s_h_a_y said:
You need quad core for work computers.

Sure gamers don't need more cores as of today. But work computers need more and more cores. And hyper-threading adds tremendous value.
Work computers also are better with 2 monitors. Huge productivity boost.

So yeah, 3 Dell monitors, 16gb RAM, SSD is the way to go.

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Even for gaming 8gb is now so outdated. Workstations need that 16gb ram for smooth multi-tasking.

so what should i change in the above config ????
thanks !!

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singh_dd93 said:
I think OP should opt for atleast i5. My dad is CA and when he is working with lots of Excel files the systems hangs a lot. Its a i5 3rd Gen with 8 gigs of RAM and Dual Monitors + 850 Evo SSD.

More over if you have the budget get a bigger SSD to keep excel files on it. It will really help.

which i5 should i get??
can u please suggest

thanks !

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nac said:
Even on board graphic of Pentium can handle 3 monitors and OP isn't not into gaming. Pretty much all the intended use of OP don't demand a quad core. So I don't see the point of hitting roof of his budget just because he has money. He can very well spend the rest of the money for something like setting up his workstation (a table which can accommodate 3 monitors or multi monitor stand, nice and comfortable chair etc...).

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I personally feel an i3 should be suffice for his need. If connecting 3 monitors just using on board graphic make the CPU hot, after market cooler is justifiable to include in the build. I think 8GB is more than enough. UPS is kinda must when it comes to work related build unless he already has something for the entire home/office.

i want to buy something i wouldn't need to change for the next 5 years so i don't mind using the full budget and also would like 23 inch screens if possible

thanks so much

a_k_s_h_a_y · Mar 31, 2016

xeon is good in the above config. for monitor check out LG 23inch monitors for 13k each.
May be spend less on motherboard and graphics card.

650 ti perhaps and simple 6k motherboard.

you could buy 2 ultrawide instead of 3 monitors. consider this too.

nac · Mar 31, 2016

This is just to get a rough idea how much it will cost you. For now decide what core you can go, then you can lock the model.

	Skylake	Haswell	Skylake	Haswell	Skylake
	i3	i5	i5	i7	i7
CPU	8850	16450	17200	24800	26850
Motherboard	9950	9250	9950	9250	9950
RAM	6800	5600	6800	5600	6800
CPU Cooler	2900	2900	2900	2900	2900
PSU	4800	4800	4800	4800	4800
Cabinet	3500	3500	3500	3500	3500
Graphic	10500	10500	10500	10500	10500
HDD	7500	7500	7500	7500	7500
ODD	1000	1000	1000	1000	1000
Monitor	40000	40000	40000	40000	40000
Keyboard & Mouse	2600	2600	2600	2600	2600
UPS	5500	5500	5500	5500	5500
SSD	4900	4900	4900	4900	4900

Total	108800	114500	117150	122850	126800

Prices are just for reference.
Within the build you can pick something else or remove to cut cost. For eg, if you have power back up already, you can opt out UPS; or you can go for 1TB now and add one later etc...

I have a doubt and it may also be helpful for the OP.
If on board graphic can handle 3 monitors, why the need of discrete graphic card?

liyzag1 · Mar 31, 2016

nac said:
This is just to get a rough idea how much it will cost you. For now decide what core you can go, then you can lock the model.

Skylake
Haswell Skylake Haswell Skylake
i3 i5 i5 i7 i7
CPU
8850 16450 17200 24800 26850

Motherboard 9950 9250 9950 9250 9950
RAM 6800 5600 6800 5600 6800
CPU Cooler 2900 2900 2900 2900 2900
PSU 4800 4800 4800 4800 4800
Cabinet 3500 3500 3500 3500 3500
Graphic 10500 10500 10500 10500 10500
HDD 7500 7500 7500 7500 7500
ODD 1000 1000 1000 1000 1000
Monitor
40000 40000 40000 40000 40000
Keyboard & Mouse 2600 2600 2600 2600 2600
UPS 5500 5500 5500 5500 5500
SSD 4900 4900 4900 4900 4900
Total 108800
114500 117150 122850 126800

Prices are just for reference.
Within the build you can pick something else or remove to cut cost. For eg, if you have power back up already, you can opt out UPS; or you can go for 1TB now and add one later etc...

I have a doubt and it may also be helpful for the OP.
If on board graphic can handle 3 monitors, why the need of discrete graphic card?

hi,

i honestly don't understand what cores mean, i was hoping u all could provide me with a config suitable for me and i could go pick it up from SMC in nehru place

i was want a triple monitor setup which would run smoothly with no lag and i wouldn't need to upgrade it for 5 years

thanks

nac · Mar 31, 2016

By the way, what's the "work" you're talking about? Blog writing or image/video editing or stock trading or computer programming or something else?

liyzag1 · Mar 31, 2016

nac said:
By the way, what's the "work" you're talking about? Blog writing or image/video editing or stock trading or computer programming or something else?

a lot of excel sheets, trading in the day and online poker at night which means a lot of tables on all screens

nac · Mar 31, 2016

I personally think that for your need i3 is suffice. I am not sure if there will be any noticeable performance boost with i5 or i7 for your purpose or that performance is worth the price (you're paying double for i5 and triple for i7).

When I was checking online there were triple monitor builds with Pentium dual core. So I think i3 can handle your requirement without sweating.

I don't know how much real estate you're gonna gain with 23" or 24" monitor over 22", after all you're gonna use triple monitor setup. For the extra 1" or 2" you have to shell out 45-65% more. Think about it. If you really need it, then go ahead and buy.

Since you're buying a whole fresh build, you can very well go for Skylake. And all the core processors can handle 3 monitors without the need of discrete graphic, at least for now you can skip that discrete card. If you find it that CPU can't handle it smoothly, you can buy the one suggested by Sunil later.

Whatever processor you pick (among the three given below) everything else gonna be the same.

		i3	i5	i7
CPU	i3 6100 / i5 6600 / i7 6700k	8850	17200	26850
Motherboard	Asus B150 Plus	7850	7850	7850
RAM	8GB DDR4 [SUP]1[/SUP]	3200	3200	3200
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master Hyper 212X [SUP]2[/SUP]	2900	2900	2900
PSU	Seasonic M12II 520w [SUP]3[/SUP]	4800	4800	4800
Cabinet	Generic [SUP]4[/SUP]	2500	2500	2500
SSD	Samsung 850 Evo 120GB	4900	4900	4900
HDD	WD 1TB [SUP]5[/SUP]	3700	3700	3700
ODD	Asus DVD writer	1000	1000	1000
Monitor	Dell 22" IPS x 3 [SUP]6[/SUP]	27000	27000	27000
Keyboard & Mouse	Logitech [SUP]7[/SUP]	800	800	800
Graphic	-	-	-	-
UPS	?	-	-	-

Total		67500	75850	85500

1 - Corsair vengeance or Kingston Hyper X Fury. For now use this 8GB, if you find that more RAM would give you performance boost you can buy more later.
Note: 4GB x 2 would give a bit better performance than 1 8GB. Since you have four slots, you won't run out slots.
2 - With 3 display CPU could use after market cooler, I assume.
3 - You don't need 520W, but if you need a discrete graphic card this will be useful
4 - You can cheap out on this if you don't fancy about the looks of the cabinet. You can sure find a decent one for about 2500/-
5 - For now buy 1TB, you can buy one later.
6 - If you really need that 24" monitor, replace this 22" with 24".
7 - If you need a feature rich keyboard, check the other available models and buy.
? - Do you need an UPS?

liyzag1 · Mar 31, 2016

nac said:
I personally think that for your need i3 is suffice. I am not sure if there will be any noticeable performance boost with i5 or i7 for your purpose or that performance is worth the price (you're paying double for i5 and triple for i7).

When I was checking online there were triple monitor builds with Pentium dual core. So I think i3 can handle your requirement without sweating.

I don't know how much real estate you're gonna gain with 23" or 24" monitor over 22", after all you're gonna use triple monitor setup. For the extra 1" or 2" you have to shell out 45-65% more. Think about it. If you really need it, then go ahead and buy.

Since you're buying a whole fresh build, you can very well go for Skylake. And all the core processors can handle 3 monitors without the need of discrete graphic, at least for now you can skip that discrete card. If you find it that CPU can't handle it smoothly, you can buy the one suggested by Sunil later.

Whatever processor you pick (among the three given below) everything else gonna be the same.

i3
i5 i7
CPU
i3 6100 / i5 6600 / i7 6700k 8850 17200 26850
Motherboard Asus B150 Plus 7850 7850 7850
RAM 8GB DDR4 [SUP]1[/SUP]
3200 3200 3200
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212X [SUP]2[/SUP]
2900 2900 2900
PSU Seasonic M12II 520w [SUP]3[/SUP]
4800 4800 4800
Cabinet Generic [SUP]4[/SUP]
2500 2500 2500
SSD Samsung 850 Evo 120GB 4900 4900 4900
HDD WD 1TB [SUP]5[/SUP]
3700 3700 3700
ODD Asus DVD writer 1000 1000 1000
Monitor Dell 22" IPS x 3 [SUP]6[/SUP]
27000 27000 27000
Keyboard & Mouse Logitech [SUP]7[/SUP]
800 800 800
Graphic -
- - -
UPS ?
- - -
Total 67500
75850 85500

1 - Corsair vengeance or Kingston Hyper X Fury. For now use this 8GB, if you find that more RAM would give you performance boost you can buy more later.
Note: 4GB x 2 would give a bit better performance than 1 8GB. Since you have four slots, you won't run out slots.
2 - With 3 display CPU could use after market cooler, I assume.
3 - You don't need 520W, but if you need a discrete graphic card this will be useful
4 - You can cheap out on this if you don't fancy about the looks of the cabinet. You can sure find a decent one for about 2500/-
5 - For now buy 1TB, you can buy one later.
6 - If you really need that 24" monitor, replace this 22" with 24".
7 - If you need a feature rich keyboard, check the other available models and buy.
? - Do you need an UPS?

This was suggested by the person at SMC shop

Processor Intel Core i5 4440 12,500
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO 1,600
Motherboard MSI H97 PC Mate 6,500
Memory Corsair Vengeance 16GB(8GBx2) 1600Mhz 7,000
Graphics Card Zotac GTX 970 4GB DDR5 OC 26,000
SSD Samsung 850 Evo 120GB 4,500
Power Supply Seasonic M12II 520W Evo Edition 5,900
Cabinet Corsair SPEC-03 4,500
Internal Storage WD Caviar Blue 2 TB 5,800
Optical Drive Asus DRW 24B3ST DVD R/W 1,000
Monitor Dell 22 IPS 27,000

what do u feel about the above config ?? he asked if i was going to play games and i will be doing gaming but not hardcore , games like xcom and civilisation ! so he suggested the above config !

nac · Mar 31, 2016

liyzag1 said:
This was suggested by the person at SMC shop

Processor Intel Core i5 4440 12,500 > Price difference is not much with Skylake. My pick would be 6th Gen i5 (i5 6600)
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO 1,600 > I copy/pasted Sunil recommendation. If this is sufficient/good or not I don't know. Sunil or someone else who is knowledgeable enough can comment on this after market cooler.
Motherboard MSI H97 PC Mate 6,500 > I prefer to stick with Asus or Gigabyte. I assume MSI is feature rich but at affordable price.
Memory Corsair Vengeance 16GB(8GBx2) 1600Mhz 7,000 > Hmmm... Are you sure you will need 16GB?
Graphics Card Zotac GTX 970 4GB DDR5 OC 26,000 > 26 grand graphic card for a non gamer? !!!
SSD Samsung 850 Evo 120GB 4,500 > Good enough
Power Supply Seasonic M12II 520W Evo Edition 5,900 > Seems like price has gone up. Sunil too quoted this price. I was still referring prices from other threads.
Cabinet Corsair SPEC-03 4,500 > Do you think you can cheap out on this?
Internal Storage WD Caviar Blue 2 TB 5,800 > 1 x 2TB vs 2 x 1TB which is a better option? Can someone comment on this?
Optical Drive Asus DRW 24B3ST DVD R/W 1,000 > Okay
Monitor Dell 22 IPS 27,000 > Good enough. Didn't you say them that you want 24"?

Note: If you opt for 6th Gen i5, you will have to change above suggested m/b and RAM. I guess you know that, but still...

If you're gonna play games, i5 is very much justifiable with this kinda budget or even i7. I don't know much about gaming cards, digitian would help you on that. If the games you say don't demand a high end card or the one suggested by Sunil is good enough, you can even fit i7 6700k in your budget.

liyzag1 · Apr 1, 2016

nac said:
If you're gonna play games, i5 is very much justifiable with this kinda budget or even i7. I don't know much about gaming cards, digitian would help you on that. If the games you say don't demand a high end card or the one suggested by Sunil is good enough, you can even fit i7 6700k in your budget.

hi,

i really really appreciate you going on replying to my queries and trust me, i did not know i had to change the m/b and ram if i opt for skyline,
i don't even know the difference between i3, i5, i7 and skyline

I've never owned a pc before

can u plz build my pc for me so i can go pick it up tomorrow .

i would like 16gb ram as I have 8gb on my laptop and its clearly not enough as it lags a lot with multiple tasks on. gpu gtx 970 is fine as my son would like to play xcom and civilisation. so i don't want him to have problems as i won't be upgrading for 5 years .

can u please suggest a full build . monitors ill go to the shop and choose which ever i like best so lets keep 30k aside for them. please build a pc worth 70k with 16gb ram and gtx 970

thank u so much nac,

i really appreciate the help !!!!!

nac · Apr 1, 2016

liyzag1 said:
please build a pc worth 70k with 16gb ram and gtx 970

It will be too tight to fit everything with 16GB RAM and esp. GTX 970 within 70k. Even SMC suggested config is going over the budget.

Stick with SMC's config and change Processor, motherboard and RAM to the one I suggested.

Option A - About 5k more expensive than SMC suggested
Processor - i5 6600
Motherboard - ASUS B150 Plus DDR4
RAM - 2 x 8GB DDR4 (Buy whichever is cheaper Corsair vengeance or Kingston Hyper X Fury)

Option B - About 15k more expensive than SMC suggested
Processor - i7 6700k
Motherboard - ASUS B150 Plus DDR4
RAM - 2 x 8GB DDR4 (Buy whichever is cheaper Corsair vengeance or Kingston Hyper X Fury)

You can go for lower priced cabinet to cut cost. You just have to make sure that the cabinet is spacious enough to accommodate after market cooler and graphic card. Most mid tower cases are good enough.

I have one concern, the board I suggested is mATX form. If after market cooler makes it too crowded you may have to look at ATX board something like ASUS H170 Pro which is about 2k more expensive than B150 Plus.

If you don't get any other suggestion before you buy, see if you can afford the above build. If you can't, go with SMC suggested one.

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liyzag1 said:
i would like 16gb ram as I have 8gb on my laptop and its clearly not enough as it lags a lot with multiple tasks on.
gpu gtx 970 is fine as my son would like to play xcom and civilisation. so i don't want him to have problems as i won't be upgrading for 5 years .

Comparatively, desktop builds are more powerful than laptop.
I googled, both these games, it doesn't need a card like GTX 970. I think you're overshooting here. Without much of a fuss you can upgrade graphic card in the future if needed. Just think about it, whether to give so much weightage on GPU or not.

liyzag1 · Apr 1, 2016

nac said:
It will be too tight to fit everything with 16GB RAM and esp. GTX 970 within 70k. Even SMC suggested config is going over the budget.

Stick with SMC's config and change Processor, motherboard and RAM to the one I suggested.

Option A - About 5k more expensive than SMC suggested
Processor - i5 6600
Motherboard - ASUS B150 Plus DDR4
RAM - 2 x 8GB DDR4 (Buy whichever is cheaper Corsair vengeance or Kingston Hyper X Fury)

Option B - About 15k more expensive than SMC suggested
Processor - i7 6700k
Motherboard - ASUS B150 Plus DDR4
RAM - 2 x 8GB DDR4 (Buy whichever is cheaper Corsair vengeance or Kingston Hyper X Fury)

You can go for lower priced cabinet to cut cost. You just have to make sure that the cabinet is spacious enough to accommodate after market cooler and graphic card. Most mid tower cases are good enough.

I have one concern, the board I suggested is mATX form. If after market cooler makes it too crowded you may have to look at ATX board something like ASUS H170 Pro which is about 2k more expensive than B150 Plus.

If you don't get any other suggestion before you buy, see if you can afford the above build. If you can't, go with SMC suggested one.

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Comparatively, desktop builds are more powerful than laptop.
I googled, both these games, it doesn't need a card like GTX 970. I think you're overshooting here. Without much of a fuss you can upgrade graphic card in the future if needed. Just think about it, whether to give so much weightage on GPU or not.

Processor Intel Core i5 6600
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO 1,600
Motherboard ASUS H170 PRO
Memory Corsair Vengeance 16GB(8GBx2) 1600Mhz 7,000
Graphics Card Zotac GTX 970 4GB DDR5 OC 26,000
SSD Samsung 850 Evo 120GB 4,500
Power Supply Seasonic M12II 520W Evo Edition 5,900
Cabinet Corsair SPEC-03 4,500
Internal Storage WD Caviar Blue 2 TB 5,800
Optical Drive Asus DRW 24B3ST DVD R/W 1,000

so is this good ?? I've asked SMC for a quote for this config.

nac · Apr 1, 2016

liyzag1 said:
Processor Intel Core i5 6600 > To cut cost you can opt for i5 6500 or i5 6400 (All the three are good, just the frequency differs. Get the quotation for the other two as well and decide).
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO 1,600 > As I already said, I don't know much about this. I assume that it should be good enough, but wait for someone to comment.
Motherboard ASUS H170 PRO > Only if TX3 EVO on B150 Plus blocks RAM slots. (get quote for Asus B150 plus too and decide) Anyway, you will have 4 slots in your board be it H170 or B150. Even if it blocks one slot, I think you're good with the other slots. After all you're gonna use two 8GB sticks. I think you can stick with B150, don't have to spend more on H170 Pro.
Memory Corsair Vengeance 16GB(8GBx2) 1600Mhz 7,000 - You need DDR4 RAM, and it starts from 2133mhz. I think the one you mentioned is DDR3. On a side note, Kingston Hyper X Fury's heat spreader is shorter than Corsair Vengeance.
Graphics Card Zotac GTX 970 4GB DDR5 OC 26,000 > Again I don't know much about graphic card, just I think it's an overkill. Wait for someone to comment.
SSD Samsung 850 Evo 120GB 4,500 > Good enough
Power Supply Seasonic M12II 520W Evo Edition 5,900 > It's good enough to run GTX 970
Cabinet Corsair SPEC-03 4,500 > You can cheap out on this.
Internal Storage WD Caviar Blue 2 TB 5,800 - Okay
Optical Drive Asus DRW 24B3ST DVD R/W 1,000 - Okay
Keyboard/mouse is missing. Though they won't cost much.

so is this good ?? I've asked SMC for a quote for this config.

Yes this is good. This will sure overshoot your budget.
I have added few comments in your quote itself. By the way, who is gonna assemble this?

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It seems like you're asking for cut and right comment/reply while I am giving you options to pick.

That's the difference between an expert and me

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