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nougain

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I am looking at buying a top end Laptop with budget range of 80K INR. My preference would be to have 15.6" FHD i7 quad core 1TB HDD and with reasonable SSD, good looking one. Not sure how much SSD for quick boot and regular day-to-day work would be ok -- 16 GB?

Please suggest best options available - I am not considering Mac!

Thanks, Nougain
Delhi
 
seamon

seamon

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Lenovo Y510p as a base. I would recommend replacing the HDD with at least a 256GB SSD. SSDs below 64GB are trash have almost no real world use. They are only good in theory.
You can replace the DVD drive with your HDD using a caddy bay. If you need to use the DVD drive then you can make a quick switch.
The reason this laptop is categorized as high end because you can again replace the caddy HDD/DVD drive with another graphic card which will cost you 8k to provide 2x gaming performance.
 
prometheus

prometheus

#ArmA since 2006
just a tip:
wait for MSI to relaunch in India..cause that's something which you don't want to miss :}

the reason being:
- just imagine what happens if a market gets occupied with companies which slaps its customers with same old DDR3 specs for loads of $$ ? thats what India has become.

- see for yourself; checkout Lenovo's US web and see the specs offered under Y series for Lenovo Y510P (skip the y40/50 for now :p ) and now compare it to what the "dostore" has to offer lol

Companies have been making tons of money by selling a generation behind hardware in India just like that. tiny things such as GPU having DDR3/5 won't be much to a common consumer but a geek understands the stuff damn right and shows 'em the mid finger

OR

get the same y510p shipped from US:-D oh you can get a spanking turbo charged tank under $1300 with an SSD/2xGPUs in SLI (with its 120/170W recom. power brick) and anti-glare for real; the Indian version is a WEDGE glossy type screen
 
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nougain

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I hear you prometheus! But when will MSI come to India and what is the gaurantee that they will have different game plan than rest of the players i.e. Dell/HP/Lenevo in India? Would be interesting to see MSI's entry but don't want to wait for long time.

Looking at my initial research on some of the retail eCommerce sites like SnapDeal/FlipKart in India, I kinda shotlisted at below three candidates. Like the SSD option but not sure how much 8GB can be of help - Sould be used for Windows8.1/Office/Browser/Etc installation area, isn't it!

What do you think of below candidates (I know Y510P has already got a favor from prometheus):

- HP Envy Touchsmart 15-j109TX Laptop (2.4 GHz 4th Gen Quad Core Ci7 4700MQ/ 8GB/ 1TB 8GB NAND/ Win8.1/ 2GB DDR3 Graph NVIDIA GeForce GT 740M/ Touch / 15.6" / 1920 x 1080 Pixel / 6 cell battery) Fliplark MRP 89149/- Available at 79990/- Post Discount: 74990/- (Snapdeal)

- Dell Inspiron 15 7537 Laptop (1.8 GHz 4th Gen Dual Core Ci7 4500U/ 8GB (expandable Upto 8 GB)/ 1TB/ Win8/ 2GB Graph GT 750/ Touch/ 15.6" / 1920 x 1080 Pixel / 4 cell) Flipkart MRP 90800/- Available at 83000/- Post Discount: ?

- Lenovo Y510p I7-4700MQ / Windows 8 / 15.6" FHD LED GLARE(WEDGE)/ 8G(2*4GB DDRIIIL1600) / HDD 1TB 5400RPM / N14P-GT1 GDDR5 2GB / DUSK BLACK / Lenovo Site: 77,000/-
 
seamon

seamon

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nougain said:
I hear you prometheus! But when will MSI come to India and what is the gaurantee that they will have different game plan than rest of the players i.e. Dell/HP/Lenevo in India? Would be interesting to see MSI's entry but don't want to wait for long time.

Looking at my initial research on some of the retail eCommerce sites like SnapDeal/FlipKart in India, I kinda shotlisted at below three candidates. Like the SSD option but not sure how much 8GB can be of help - Sould be used for Windows8.1/Office/Browser/Etc installation area, isn't it!

What do you think of below candidates (I know Y510P has already got a favor from prometheus):

- HP Envy Touchsmart 15-j109TX Laptop (2.4 GHz 4th Gen Quad Core Ci7 4700MQ/ 8GB/ 1TB 8GB NAND/ Win8.1/ 2GB DDR3 Graph NVIDIA GeForce GT 740M/ Touch / 15.6" / 1920 x 1080 Pixel / 6 cell battery) Fliplark MRP 89149/- Available at 79990/- Post Discount: 74990/- (Snapdeal)

- Dell Inspiron 15 7537 Laptop (1.8 GHz 4th Gen Dual Core Ci7 4500U/ 8GB (expandable Upto 8 GB)/ 1TB/ Win8/ 2GB Graph GT 750/ Touch/ 15.6" / 1920 x 1080 Pixel / 4 cell) Flipkart MRP 90800/- Available at 83000/- Post Discount: ?

- Lenovo Y510p I7-4700MQ / Windows 8 / 15.6" FHD LED GLARE(WEDGE)/ 8G(2*4GB DDRIIIL1600) / HDD 1TB 5400RPM / N14P-GT1 GDDR5 2GB / DUSK BLACK / Lenovo Site: 77,000/-
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8GB SSD will be of no help at all. It will just decrease boot time which is as if so low in Windows 8. 8 GB SSD? Please. Give me a 8GB Ram Stick instead.

1.Overpriced and very very weak graphic card.
2.Doesn't have 1920x1080 screen. Very very weak CPU.
3.Best option.
[MENTION=139589]prometheus[/MENTION] seems like deja vous. We just talked about this in the previous thread. Also, DDR4 memory hasn't been released in laptops yet. AFAIK only the highest end Intel Desktop CPU supports DDR4 memory.
 
SaiyanGoku

SaiyanGoku

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nougain said:
I hear you prometheus! But when will MSI come to India and what is the gaurantee that they will have different game plan than rest of the players i.e. Dell/HP/Lenevo in India? Would be interesting to see MSI's entry but don't want to wait for long time.

Looking at my initial research on some of the retail eCommerce sites like SnapDeal/FlipKart in India, I kinda shotlisted at below three candidates. Like the SSD option but not sure how much 8GB can be of help - Sould be used for Windows8.1/Office/Browser/Etc installation area, isn't it!

What do you think of below candidates (I know Y510P has already got a favor from prometheus):

- HP Envy Touchsmart 15-j109TX Laptop (2.4 GHz 4th Gen Quad Core Ci7 4700MQ/ 8GB/ 1TB 8GB NAND/ Win8.1/ 2GB DDR3 Graph NVIDIA GeForce GT 740M/ Touch / 15.6" / 1920 x 1080 Pixel / 6 cell battery) Fliplark MRP 89149/- Available at 79990/- Post Discount: 74990/- (Snapdeal)

- Dell Inspiron 15 7537 Laptop (1.8 GHz 4th Gen Dual Core Ci7 4500U/ 8GB (expandable Upto 8 GB)/ 1TB/ Win8/ 2GB Graph GT 750/ Touch/ 15.6" / 1920 x 1080 Pixel / 4 cell) Flipkart MRP 90800/- Available at 83000/- Post Discount: ?

- Lenovo Y510p I7-4700MQ / Windows 8 / 15.6" FHD LED GLARE(WEDGE)/ 8G(2*4GB DDRIIIL1600) / HDD 1TB 5400RPM / N14P-GT1 GDDR5 2GB / DUSK BLACK / Lenovo Site: 77,000/-
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both the HP and dell one have crap config for that price.

better get y510p or wait for MSI relaunch or get a custom laptop from clevo or sager.
 
prometheus

prometheus

#ArmA since 2006
nougain said:
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- HP Envy Touchsmart 15-j109TX Laptop (2.4 GHz 4th Gen Quad Core Ci7 4700MQ/ 8GB/ 1TB 8GB NAND/ Win8.1/ 2GB DDR3 Graph NVIDIA GeForce GT 740M/ Touch / 15.6" / 1920 x 1080 Pixel / 6 cell battery) Fliplark MRP 89149/- Available at 79990/- Post Discount: 74990/- (Snapdeal)
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|->DDR3.... :/ *biggest dealbreaker* at this price point erm..

- Dell Inspiron 15 7537 Laptop (1.8 GHz 4th Gen Dual Core Ci7 4500U/ 8GB (expandable Upto 8 GB)/ 1TB/ Win8/ 2GB Graph GT 750/ Touch/ 15.6" / 1920 x 1080 Pixel / 4 cell) Flipkart MRP 90800/- Available at 83000/- Post Discount: ?
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|-> a Ci7 4500U ? that's a ultra low voltage variant.. :/ nope..

- Lenovo Y510p I7-4700MQ / Windows 8 / 15.6" FHD LED GLARE(WEDGE)/ 8G(2*4GB DDRIIIL1600) / HDD 1TB 5400RPM / N14P-GT1 GDDR5 2GB / DUSK BLACK / Lenovo Site: 77,000/-
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|-> this one is way better than all others..more like an allrounder and at this price point it's just lovely (price mentioned by you is from lenovo's own "thedostore" just check Flipkart or your local retailer..should be around ~72-73k INR)
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*but*
hopefully MSI will be relaunching around end of June / mid-July (read second half of 2014) so every other brand out there should feel the ripple effect:-D and they'll drop their prices a bit.

Even if they didn't drop their prices then again atleast you'll have some really good options from MSI and saving sm $$ isn't a bad idea anytime *win*win*:cool:
 
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seamon

seamon

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prometheus said:
*but*
hopefully MSI will be relaunching around end of June / mid-July (read second half of 2014) so every other brand out there should feel the ripple effect:-D and they'll drop their prices a bit.

Even if they didn't drop their prices then again atleast you'll have some really good options from MSI and saving sm $$ isn't a bad idea anytime *win*win*:cool:
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No effect if prices start from 90k.
 
prometheus

prometheus

#ArmA since 2006
seamon said:
No effect if prices start from 90k.
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^ true that
pricing around that is highly likely but then again I will wait a bit.. *fingers crossed* one of their model(s) having 840/850m surely is around ~85k INR incl. taxes

Haven't heard from Rhyansy all this..time around..since he posted that $150 amazon fee for the warranty thingy:-D
I was looking out for the Unlike button:-D:-D
 
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nougain

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It seems unlikely that there is a clear winner out there! There are some pros and cons with each one of-course. If HP and Dell are not in fray then Lenovo is the only one left out there. It is black!! Was prefering Silver!! Question is how much I can customize it? Is there a DVD drive that I can get rid of and replace with SDD or HDD caddy?

I initially started researching on building my own gig (cost: 1.7 Lakh) but now I am thinking of settling down with a laptop for reasons such as mobility, no continuous power backup requirement, etc. My finalized gig config:

1 i7-4770
2 Corsair Vengeance 8GB 1600 MHz [x2 i.e. Total 16 GB]
3 ZOTAC NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 2GB GDDR5
4 Asus Z87-PRO
5 LG 29" IPS 2560 x 1080 (29EA93)
6 SSD SAMSUNG 840 (120GB)
7 WD Caviar Black 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB (6Gb/s) X 2
8 Logitech Wireless Combo KB+M (MK330)
9 DVD RW - HP SATA (LIGHT SCRIBE)
10 Cooler Master Storm Trooper Cabinet - With Side Window Panel
11 COOLER MASTER GX-II 750 Watt SMPS/PSU
12 APC UPS BR1500-IN 800 Watt 1280VA
13 Windows 8.1 Pro (64-bit)
14 Office Home & Student 2013 (Word,Excel,PowerPoint,Note)

Do you think I should still consider it? Somehow my brain is pushing me for a laptop for its obvious benefits. I won't mind spending additional 20K on enhancing the laptop if I can -- SSD, 2TB, DDR5, higher end GC, more RAM, etc.
 
$hadow

$hadow

Geek in making
Nothing can match a desktop in power output.
Go with a desktop if mobility and electricity are not your requirements
 
seamon

seamon

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nougain said:
It seems unlikely that there is a clear winner out there! There are some pros and cons with each one of-course. If HP and Dell are not in fray then Lenovo is the only one left out there. It is black!! Was prefering Silver!! Question is how much I can customize it? Is there a DVD drive that I can get rid of and replace with SDD or HDD caddy?

I initially started researching on building my own gig (cost: 1.7 Lakh) but now I am thinking of settling down with a laptop for reasons such as mobility, no continuous power backup requirement, etc. My finalized gig config:

1 i7-4770
2 Corsair Vengeance 8GB 1600 MHz [x2 i.e. Total 16 GB]
3 ZOTAC NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 2GB GDDR5
4 Asus Z87-PRO
5 LG 29" IPS 2560 x 1080 (29EA93)
6 SSD SAMSUNG 840 (120GB)
7 WD Caviar Black 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB (6Gb/s) X 2
8 Logitech Wireless Combo KB+M (MK330)
9 DVD RW - HP SATA (LIGHT SCRIBE)
10 Cooler Master Storm Trooper Cabinet - With Side Window Panel
11 COOLER MASTER GX-II 750 Watt SMPS/PSU
12 APC UPS BR1500-IN 800 Watt 1280VA
13 Windows 8.1 Pro (64-bit)
14 Office Home & Student 2013 (Word,Excel,PowerPoint,Note)

Do you think I should still consider it? Somehow my brain is pushing me for a laptop for its obvious benefits. I won't mind spending additional 20K on enhancing the laptop if I can -- SSD, 2TB, DDR5, higher end GC, more RAM, etc.
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You can customize every component of the Y510p. It is as customizable as a desktop. That being said, it will never provide desktop level performance. You will need a continuous power supply to play games. If you want to get an idea of how much performance you can gain by customizing it you can look for GT 755SLI/GTX 770m/GTX 860m benchmarks.
 
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AbhMkh

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nougain said:
It seems unlikely that there is a clear winner out there! There are some pros and cons with each one of-course. If HP and Dell are not in fray then Lenovo is the only one left out there. It is black!! Was prefering Silver!! Question is how much I can customize it? Is there a DVD drive that I can get rid of and replace with SDD or HDD caddy?

I initially started researching on building my own gig (cost: 1.7 Lakh) but now I am thinking of settling down with a laptop for reasons such as mobility, no continuous power backup requirement, etc. My finalized gig config:

1 i7-4770
2 Corsair Vengeance 8GB 1600 MHz [x2 i.e. Total 16 GB]
3 ZOTAC NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 2GB GDDR5
4 Asus Z87-PRO
5 LG 29" IPS 2560 x 1080 (29EA93)
6 SSD SAMSUNG 840 (120GB)
7 WD Caviar Black 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB (6Gb/s) X 2
8 Logitech Wireless Combo KB+M (MK330)
9 DVD RW - HP SATA (LIGHT SCRIBE)
10 Cooler Master Storm Trooper Cabinet - With Side Window Panel
11 COOLER MASTER GX-II 750 Watt SMPS/PSU
12 APC UPS BR1500-IN 800 Watt 1280VA
13 Windows 8.1 Pro (64-bit)
14 Office Home & Student 2013 (Word,Excel,PowerPoint,Note)

Do you think I should still consider it? Somehow my brain is pushing me for a laptop for its obvious benefits. I won't mind spending additional 20K on enhancing the laptop if I can -- SSD, 2TB, DDR5, higher end GC, more RAM, etc.
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If mobility is not a priority for you then Desktop, definitely DESKTOP !!!!.....Nothing in laptops even comes close to what a high end desktop has to offer unless you want to spend 2-3 L on a laptop which is simply unacceptable.

My current and previous systems were laptops but my next system most definitely will be a desktop.This config you have selected is an excellent one.But might I suggest replacing the I7 4770 with a I5 4670K(overclock enabled) and the Z87 pro motherboard with a Asus Gryphon.Should knock a couple of thousand off your total.
 
kg11sgbg

kg11sgbg

Indian Railways - The Vibrant and Moving INDIA
[MENTION=139589]prometheus[/MENTION], Is it definite for sure that MSi will be relaunching here in India?
A good news indeed.
 
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