suugest a good camera phone

[Baker]

hi guys

am looking to buy a good camera phone (5 mp) ,
which is the best available camera phone in the market....?

the options are like k 850 i, n95..
is any other phones are there

 

[sandeepkochhar]

ZN5 is the ultimate choice but you'll get hard time searching to get one as Moto has stopped sales in India.

 

[RaghuKL]

K850 is still best out there in terms of quality.

samsung has 8mp phone costing about Rs. 24k

 

[utsav]

N82 is the best 5MP cam phone. k850 isnt.

 

[Coool]

Cam Phone = N82

 

[Baker]

^^^
which is better n 82 or n95....?
i thing in n95 we will get lot other features than n82...right

 

[Coool]

^ If you want cam....Then Get N82.Nothing beats N82

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[uppalpankaj]

N82..Don't think abt anything else if u want an excellent cam..

 

[Ecstasy]

Even N95 is good for 5mp phone.

 

[sandeepkochhar]

How come every body claiming N82 is the best 5MP cam phone. See this *www.mobile-review.com/review/motorola-zn5-en.shtml

Moto ZN5>K850i>N82.

What the hell..

 

[sujoyp]

How come every body claiming N82 is the best 5MP cam phone. See this *www.mobile-review.com/review/motorola-zn5-en.shtml

Moto ZN5>K850i>N82.

What the hell..

Apart from being a good cam phone its also symbian soo give u many applications to install
Its screen is bigger then remaining 2....n82 has all connectivity options available..even wifi
n82 can record VGA videos(640x480)which others cant
N82 has a-gps...
and lastly it has a 3d graphic card

 

[Power UP]

How come every body claiming N82 is the best 5MP cam phone. See this *www.mobile-review.com/review/motorola-zn5-en.shtml

Moto ZN5>K850i>N82.

What the hell..

Hahahaha............gives me a laugh each time i hear that

Lets use your own suggested link *www.mobile-review.com/review/motorola-zn5-en.shtml

Now lets carefully see the FULL RESOLUTION pics

N82 =>
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-01.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-02.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-03.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-04.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-05.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-06.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-07.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-08.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-09.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-10.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-11.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-12.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-13.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-14.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-15.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-16.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-17.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-18.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-19.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-20.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-21.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-22.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-23.jpg

ZN5 =>
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-01.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-02.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-03.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-04.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-05.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-06.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-07.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-08.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-09.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-10.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-11.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-12.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-13.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-14.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-15.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-16.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-17.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-18.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-19.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-20.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-21.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-22.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-23.jpg

Note if you click on the images hosted on the imageshack site, then after the image has fully loaded click on it. Otherwise you will be viewing a reduced image in size for the sake of properly fitting in your computer screen.
The direct links are provided above.

The aim here is to view these images in their full glory

An example

N82..........................ZN5
*img152.imageshack.us/img152/1193/n8201.th.jpg*img512.imageshack.us/img512/5171/zn501.th.jpg


Clearly we can see that in FULL RESOLUTION,

N82's image quality is better than ZN5 in most cases ,

and ZN5's color reproduction better than N82 in most cases.

Now the question arises, which is better to have,
Better Image quality or Better Color reproduction......hmmm.......hmmm..........lol
No need to be an einstein to figure that out , much more useful to have better image quality than color reproduction.

Take for example if you feel the snap you have taken is not vibrant enough, just open it in Photoshop or any decent image editor and just click Auto Color, and voila its fixed. And you can further experiment to your liking.

Unfortunately its not the same case with Image quality (For files using lossy compression). Once its lost it can never come back.
Try converting an qvga (240x320) jpg image to 1080p and you will understand what i am trying to say here.

And further more that review was taken on 23 June 2008, it now nearly year later. The firmware used in the N82 at that time was an old one. Now the new v31 is available which has better image quality,exposure etc. and further goodies like better music quality, battery life etc. than the old one.

Now comes the price, the N82 is around 18k and ZN5 around 13-14k. Why is there a substantial difference in price when both sport an 5mp camera ???

Now now its not like Motorola is suddenly feeling very generous, ZN5 is priced less because it lacks many features like 3G, an os like symbian or winmo with great number of apps, video resolution is a pathetic 176x144 @15fps compared to N82's 640x480 @30fps, etc.

Clearly both of them are priced appropriately, you pay more you get more

Motorola has pulled out off India, so think twice even thrice before buying an Motorola phone.

There are advantages of having an Nokia or SE phone

While the number of details observed on the N82’s snaps is on a par with that of the Motorola ZN5, as far as colors are concerned, the ZN5 is second to none. Hence a simple conclusion – as of today, the Motorola ZN5 is above the competition when it comes to viewing pictures on the phone’s display.

Lol its comments like these that sidetrack the simple minded

If all your going to do is view pictures on the phone’s display having an normal resolution of 240x320, then even an Vga cam is more than enough. An 5mp with an 2592x1944 resolution would be an overkill

 

[sandeepkochhar]

@Power Up:- First of all I applaud your research and long post on the differences between two. I remember having discussion with you regarding the same in another thread. And ultimately no conclusion was reached.

In this post the original poster has only mentioned about camera. 3G is yet to reach common masses. And it will take more than a year or two to reach at affordable reasons. So 3G is out of question. About Symbian everybody knows it's pros and cons. A smartphone is entirely different thing and multimedia phone is another dimension. Convergence between two is still in rudimentary stages. And I believe if one needs a Smartphone Windows based phones are way better than Symbian ones IMHO.

Coming back to camera, the examples you have taken from mobile-review clearly shows that colour reproduction is better in ZN5. Regarding image quality, I only see that N82 images are brighter than ZN5 and nothing more of higher quality. You can easily fix the brightness easily but colour reproduction is altogether different. You can tweak it by Photoshop but what is the point if the pic you shoot is vastly different from the original one. After all you won't want a yellow rose to be orange. ZN5 is way above in still photos.

Also shutter lag is one of the most important feature of a camera phone. N82 and K850 both lag behind ZN5 in shutter speed. Zine shoots fast that is why it is able to capture the frame you want and not 3 seconds later frame which may be altogether different. Practically, ZN5 is the best shooter.

Just have a look at the leading Indian magazines and what they say about ZN5

*livingdigitalindia.ciol.com/Gadgets_Mobile_715_101462_MotoZine ZN5_Details.aspx

*www.pcworld.in/india/reviews/5800060/PDAs__Cell_Phones/Moto_ZN5

Just read between lines and you'll get my point.

 

[Power UP]

In this post the original poster has only mentioned about camera. 3G is yet to reach common masses. And it will take more than a year or two to reach at affordable reasons. So 3G is out of question. About Symbian everybody knows it's pros and cons. A smartphone is entirely different thing and multimedia phone is another dimension. Convergence between two is still in rudimentary stages. And I believe if one needs a Smartphone Windows based phones are way better than Symbian ones IMHO.

Dude 3G is a feature now a days found in a phone as low as 8k. With video calls as cheap as 2rs per min. Now ofcourse there will be initial problems but most of these will ironed out in the coming months. Anyway its up to the user to decide whether he wants 3G or not. If i am paying above 10k then its natural to expect better features.
And as for symbian and winmo, its about the users preferences. Some like Symbian for its simplicity and great number of apps and some like winmo for its highly customizable os.

Anyway its meaningless to continue to talk about os if the user is not interested in the first place. But remember there is always a start.

Coming back to camera, the examples you have taken from mobile-review clearly shows that colour reproduction is better in ZN5. Regarding image quality, I only see that N82 images are brighter than ZN5 and nothing more of higher quality. You can easily fix the brightness easily but colour reproduction is altogether different. You can tweak it by Photoshop but what is the point if the pic you shoot is vastly different from the original one. After all you won't want a yellow rose to be orange. ZN5 is way above in still photos.

Also shutter lag is one of the most important feature of a camera phone. N82 and K850 both lag behind ZN5 in shutter speed. Zine shoots fast that is why it is able to capture the frame you want and not 3 seconds later frame which may be altogether different. Practically, ZN5 is the best shooter.

Ahem....

Here, a few cropped images from the full res pics. No post processing and note since Jpeg compression at 80% is used, so a slight quality loss might occurs. Click on the original full resolution pics to get the best quality.

N82
*img2.imageshack.us/img2/6150/n8201small.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-01.jpg

ZN5
*img2.imageshack.us/img2/3330/zn501small.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-01.jpg

N82
*img2.imageshack.us/img2/5089/n8205small.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-05.jpg

ZN5
*img2.imageshack.us/img2/8453/zn505small.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-05.jpg

N82
*img2.imageshack.us/img2/3938/n8206small.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-06.jpg

ZN5
*img2.imageshack.us/img2/673/zn506small.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-06.jpg

N82
*img2.imageshack.us/img2/7910/n8207small.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-07.jpg

ZN5
*img2.imageshack.us/img2/9134/zn507small.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-07.jpg

N82
*img2.imageshack.us/img2/992/n8214small.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-14.jpg

ZN5
*img2.imageshack.us/img2/3180/zn514small.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-14.jpg







And here just for fun

N82
*img2.imageshack.us/img2/5584/n8217small.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-17.jpg

ZN5
*img141.imageshack.us/img141/7971/zn517small.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-17.jpg

N82 with a simple auto color in Photoshop
*img141.imageshack.us/img141/271/n8217autosmall.jpg


Here check the FULL RESOLUTION pics

N82 =>
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-01.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-02.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-03.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-04.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-05.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-06.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-07.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-08.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-09.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-10.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-11.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-12.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-13.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-14.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-15.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-16.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-17.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-18.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-19.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-20.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-21.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-22.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/n82-23.jpg

ZN5 =>
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-01.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-02.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-03.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-04.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-05.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-06.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-07.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-08.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-09.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-10.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-11.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-12.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-13.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-14.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-15.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-16.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-17.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-18.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-19.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-20.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-21.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-22.jpg
*www.mobile-review.com/review/image/motorola/zn5/photo/n82/zn5-23.jpg


As i said before

In FULL RESOLUTION,

N82's image quality is better than ZN5 in most cases ,

and ZN5's color reproduction better than N82 in most cases.

Plus the N82 also records video at 640x480 @30fps, so a much better allround cam performance.


And as for shutter lag, Zn5 has less but that alone doesn't make it a deal breaker. And its only a small difference hardly the big decision maker.

And N82 color reproduction has only slightly less saturation. So in some cases when compared to ZN5, green color will be shown as light green etc. Only slight vibrancy difference. It does not mean that green will be shown as blue lol. The N82's color reproduction is already quite good and the ZN5 only slightly better.

Its better to look at the combined features like whitebalance,exposure,lens quality etc. as the image output depends on the working of all these features together to produce the final picture.

*www.streetdirectory.com/travel_guide/186698/nokia/nokia_n82_is_latest_n_series_nokia_release.html

The new Nokia N82 is being dubbed as the photographic phone for journalism with a high specification camera and quick shutter speed not seen in mobile phone before.

N82 is quite clearly no slow poke

And even K850 has a faster shutter speed than N82, but lol still N82 wins the
Best mobile imaging device award.

Nokia N82 wins TIPA’s “Best Mobile Imaging Device in Europe” award 2008
*www.phonemag.com/tipa-names-n82-best-mobile-imaging-device-in-europe-042521.php
*news.softpedia.com/news/Nokia-N82-Is-The-Best-Mobile-Imaging-Device-For-2008-84194.shtml
*www.slashphone.com/nokia-n82-wins-tipa-best-mobile-imaging-device-in-europe-award-2008-23296
*www.intomobile.com/2008/04/26/noki...bile-imaging-device-in-europe-award-2008.html

Quite clearly even the experts agree that its a team effort

 

[yogi7272]

n82 is the best 5 mp cam phone.. not even zn5 comes closer .. video recording on zn5 is pathetic .. wth k850i comes here? is it even in the picture?

 

[heartripple]

N-82 Rules If U want good camera