Mac OS X Leopard Now Available For Pre-Order at the Apple Store

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iMav

iMav

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^^ go thru the text u will find most of it bull sh!t as in things which are not new in any sense of the word :) but yeah new in the deprived mac world :lol:
 

superczar

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gx_saurav said:
You can't even change the fuc*** Apple menu to opaque again in Loepard :-X
LOL, Don't go around dissing something just because of your own ignorance...

You can customize pretty much anything you want in OS X as long as you know how to do it....

Here's a sample guide for starters
*www.oreilly.com/catalog/modmacosx/toc.html

PS: I am not an apple fanboi..I am more of a Windows power user, but your vehement apple bashing comes across as really funny at times
 
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iMav

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^^ the point is if u tinker with os x a little it breaks and it is far more difficult to customize os x as compared to windows ;)
 

superczar

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^^ the point is if u tinker with os x a little it breaks and it is far more difficult to customize os x as compared to windows

of course not...the OS X Unix kernel is in fact a lot more stable than the windows kernel...

It's just that most of us (including you guys), by virtue of the fact that we've been using windoze right since the start, are a whole lot more familiar with the internals on windoze

Ask a windoze n00b to tinker with the advanced settings and see how quickly he ends up messing it
 

aryayush

Aspiring Novelist
People end up messing Windows even without tinkering with it. Don't tell me that's not true. I have never seen a Windows PC in my life that was working perfectly fine - not even a single one.
 

superczar

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People end up messing Windows even without tinkering with it. Don't tell me that's not true. I have never seen a Windows PC in my life that was working perfectly fine - not even a single one.

Not true, you should see my systems then....
 
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iMav

iMav

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superczar said:
of course not...the OS X Unix kernel is in fact a lot more stable than the windows kernel...
sorry man thats not by my experience os x customization is far far difficult and un-stable as compared to windows ;)
 

superczar

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sorry man thats not by my experience os x customization is far far difficult and un-stable as compared to windows

Alright, for once, I want an honest answer....
Just gimme a high level approximation

How much time have you spent working on , and tinkering with windows?
And
How much time have you spent working on , and tinkering with OS X?
 

superczar

-n00b-
so don't you think you have answered your question yourself?

Also, I am pretty sure that even in the last 1 year, you have been using OS X once in a while and not all the time....

How long did it take for you to reach a level of comfort on windows before you could start tweaking around ?
 

aryayush

Aspiring Novelist
iMav said:
sorry man thats not by my experience os x customization is far far difficult and un-stable as compared to windows
That's because you are using it on unsupported hardware.

superczar said:
Not true, you should see my systems then....
How many times have you installed Windows (or had it installed by someone) in your life?

You are a hardcore user, so you have now perfected the art of keeping Windows in running shape after a lot of trial-and-error. Mac OS X, IMHO, spares you that learning experience.

I would like to reiterate. I have never seen a Windows installation on any computer whatsoever working perfectly. I am sure even your systems have some glitches... (like error messages popping out of nowhere, stupid balloons popping up all over the place, windows snatching focus for no reason at all, applications refusing to be end tasked...)

I haven't seen your systems though, so I may be wrong in this regard. But I stand by what I said about never having seen a perfectly fine Windows installation. :)
 
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iMav

iMav

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windows no time and i expected os x to be the same but alas the os is so crappy and feature less that other than changing the wall paper theres nothing u can do without using third party softwares

os x spares u that because it has a minute scope of tinkering as compared to windows ;) if u havent seen it doesnt mean there is none ....

there is saying in hindi - daddu (frog) apne kuye (well) ko duniya samjhe :)
 

superczar

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You are a hardcore user, so you have now perfected the art of keeping Windows in running shape after a lot of trial-and-error. Mac OS X, IMHO, spares you that learning experience.

I would like to reiterate. I have never seen a Windows installation on any computer whatsoever working perfectly. I am sure even your systems have some glitches... (like error messages popping out of nowhere, stupid balloons popping up all over the place, windows snatching focus for no reason at all, applications refusing to be end tasked...)
True, I am a windoze power user and have nearly perfected the art(?) of keeping my puppies running smoothly

It's also true that OS X in comparison requires very little maintenance to keep it in that shape...
However, it's not all roses

My iPhoto groans under my 5000+ picture collection
My iTunes has started groaning under my huge music collection
Simple things like mapping a network drive require writing a startup script

I know there are ways to fix all of those...there are alternatives to iphoto too
I am not complaining about the above...it's just that I am trying to point out that OS X ain't perfect either
 
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wtf os x puts up side down wallpaper ... didnt know abt this feature :lol: all my images are sidha i dont need to rotate them .... ur weird arya ulta pulta images as wallpapers :lol:
 

superczar

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windows no time and i expected os x to be the same but alas the os is so crappy and feature less that other than changing the wall paper theres nothing u can do without using third party softwares

os x spares u that because it has a minute scope of tinkering as compared to windows if u havent seen it doesnt mean there is none ....

there is saying in hindi - daddu (frog) apne kuye (well) ko duniya samjhe
Now don't you lie through your teeth :p

Windows woud have been most likely your first exposure to computers....(If not MS DOS)
trust me it would have taken at least several months of long goggle eyed sessions in front of your comp before you would have realized there even exists something called regedit


Anyway, if you really intend to learn, here comes a preview of your first primer on tweaking OS X:

*www.oreilly.com/catalog/modmacosx/toc.html
 

aryayush

Aspiring Novelist
superczar said:
My iPhoto groans under my 5000+ picture collection
My iTunes has started groaning under my huge music collection
This is more of a problem with computers in general but yeah, I hope this is fixed in Leopard.

superczar said:
Simple things like mapping a network drive require writing a startup script
Fixed in Leopard.

superczar said:
it's just that I am trying to point out that OS X ain't perfect either
Oh, I know that. I have never claimed that it is perfect (at least, not seriously). The point is that it is a lot better suited for most tasks than Windows is. It is a lot easier to maintain, much more stable and secure. It definitely has the best user interface among operating systems.

It isn't perfect, yes. But it definitely is the best. :)

superczar said:
Now don't you lie through your teeth :p

Windows woud have been most likely your first exposure to computers....(If not MS DOS)
trust me it would have taken at least several months of long goggle eyed sessions in front of your comp before you would have realized there even exists something called regedit
There is an unwritten rule on the Digit forum - don't ever expect gx_saurav or iMav to tell the truth. Hope they do but don't expect them to. :)
 
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iMav

iMav

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aryayush said:
There is an unwritten rule on the Digit forum - don't ever expect gx_saurav or iMav to tell the truth. Hope they do but don't expect them to. :)
not commenting on the other more honest revelations from u which u never accepted before thsi day where have i lied i would like to know and correct myself :) (in all seriousness)

whats regedit got to do and besides people like vishal will tell u whats the best part of regedit :) hey guys may be our new friend needs to be shown some of mr. vista magic :)
 
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