Intel or AMD for Home Lab?

krinish

Journeyman
1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.' Vague answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work.)
Ans: Home Lab, This will run ESXi, Coding, Casual gaming. This will be my playground. A let out for my IT exploration. I will be buying a NAS Device later. My Dream PC.

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then please mention.
Ans: Budget no issue.

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: Yes

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Dual boot, Windows 10 and Linux

5. How much hard drive / solid-state drive space is needed?
Ans: 4 GB

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention the screen size and resolution you prefer. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, then do mention the screen size and resolution of the monitor you have.
Ans: Yes , two monitors, 27 and 24 Inches. 27 should be 4k.

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy? i.e. which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: Its a fresh Build. going all out

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: I am ready to buy based on Suggestions you all provide.

9. Have you ever built a desktop before? Or, will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: I have built one long back. Will build myself. Will learn that way.

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: Bangalore. Will head to SP Road, probably Ankit Infotech

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: I have two builds on my mind, Intel or AMD, which is listed below. I have mentioned three MB's in both the builds and also two Graphics Card Please let me know which one will be best?


Intel Build

Proccy11900K Processor
MotherboardGigabyte Z590 Aorus Master (Wi-Fi) Motherboard
MotherboardASUS ROG STRIX Z590-E GAMING WIFI LGA 1200 ATX MOTHERBOARD
MotherboardAsus ROG Maximus XIII Hero (WIFI) Motherboard
RAMGSKILL RIPJAWS V 64GB (32X2) DDR4 3600MHZ RAM BLACK (F4-3600C18D-64GVK)
StorageSAMSUNG 980 PRO 1TB M.2 NVMe GEN4 INTERNAL SSD (MZ-V8P1T0BW)
StorageWESTERN DIGITAL BLUE 1TB 3D NAND INTERNAL SSD (WDS100T2B0A)
StorageWD 2TB Blue - 7200 RPM
PowerCorsair RM1000X
CaseLIAN LI PC-O11 DYNAMIC- BLACK XL GAMING CABINET (G99.O11DX.IN)
CoolerNZXT Kraken Z73 CPU Liquid Cooler (RL-KRZ73-01)
GraphicASUS DUAL RTX 2060 EVO OC EDITION 6GB GRAPHICS CARD (90YV0CH2-M0IA00)
GraphicGIGABYTE Gaming GeForce RTX 3060 12GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 x16 ATX Video Card GV-N3060GAMING OC-12GD
FansCORSAIR QL Series, iCUE QL120 RGB, 120mm RGB LED Fan, Triple Pack with Lighting Node CORE, CO-9050098-WW



AMD Build

ProccyRyzen 9 5950X
MotherboardASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero AM4 AMD X570S SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard
MotherboardASUS AMD AM4 ROG Strix X570-E
MotherboardGIGABYTE X570 AORUS MASTER MOTHERBOARD
RAMGSKILL RIPJAWS V 64GB (32X2) DDR4 3600MHZ RAM BLACK (F4-3600C18D-64GVK)
StorageSAMSUNG 980 PRO 1TB M.2 NVMe GEN4 INTERNAL SSD (MZ-V8P1T0BW)
StorageWESTERN DIGITAL BLUE 1TB 3D NAND INTERNAL SSD (WDS100T2B0A)
StorageWD 2TB Blue 7200 RPM
PowerCorsair RM1000X
CaseLIAN LI PC-O11 DYNAMIC- BLACK MID TOWER GAMING CABINET (G99.O11DX.IN)
CoolerNZXT Kraken Z73 CPU Liquid Cooler (RL-KRZ73-01)
GraphicASUS DUAL RTX 2060 EVO OC EDITION 6GB GRAPHICS CARD (90YV0CH2-M0IA00)
GraphicGIGABYTE Gaming GeForce RTX 3060 12GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 x16 ATX Video Card GV-N3060GAMING OC-12GD
FansCORSAIR QL Series, iCUE QL120 RGB, 120mm RGB LED Fan, Triple Pack with Lighting Node CORE, CO-9050098-WW
 
Honestly speaking I don't have good idea about a lot of parts at such high budget, but will answer where I can.

Get AMD CPU, easy answer as R9 5950X is much more powerful than i9 11900K for CPU intensive tasks.

Mobo VRM test results:
mobo VRM X570 full.png


I don't even know what those top mobos add over say X570 Tomahawk, but look for small features that might or might not be helpful from spec sheet.

RAM - Yes, 3600MHz is good, go for RGB, if you want.

SSD - 980 Pro is top end Gen4 SSD & WD Blue is a top SATA SSD.

PSU - Great. RM series is low in stock since last year in India. See if you can grab RM or HX. Refer this list for other PSUs:
PSU Tier List

Cabinet - Heard a lot about O11, not sure how it fares for airflow. Check review by Gamers Nexus

Cooler - NZXT Z73 seems too overpriced honestly. Lian Li Galahad 360 is a good 360mm AIO from what I know. Check reviews, don't just look at temps, look at noise levels as well. Also look for reviews which test at 200W CPU load or more.

Fans - Noctua & be quiet are well reputed for airflow. Not much idea.

GPU - Why stop at 3060? If you are into gaming & will get a 4K monitor, get RTX 3080 LHR IMO. Costs ~1 lakh these days. Asus TUF/ROG & MSI Gaming X trio are good models w.r.t. thermals & performance. See what SP Road sellers quote. Due to shortage, you can settle with whatever you get at a good price.
Buy MSI RTX 3080 Gaming Z Trio 10G LHR at Best Price in India (1.13L)
Buy Inno3D RTX 3080 iChill X3 LHR at Best Price in India (96k)
This is Ankit Infotech: PC Studio-Ankit Infotech(One stop shop for PC Solutions)

Monitor:
4K 144Hz - LG 27GN950, costs 60k usually.
IMO get a 2nd 27" 2K monitor, Acer XV272U is a good budget option or Gigabyte M27Q (if you won't be reading too much text from it). If it will be in potrait, never mind, get a 24" 1080p IPS one.
 
OP
K

krinish

Journeyman
Thank you for your quick reply. So AMD it is then. Looks like I have to look closer at the MB choices Ive made, I am a little hesitant about MSI, I would prefer ASUS or Gigabyte .
I will go for RGB Ram. I hope I have the ability to turn off all these RGB's if I am closer to epileptic shock. NZXT Z73 is way too pricey for its worth you say? Would Lian Li Galahad 360 do the job? I would be running the system all the time. I could go for DIY cooling, but I see its complicated work and its way too pricey. Any idea who at SP road could do it?
I will go for 3080 GPU, Would prefer ASUS or Zotac. What does LHR mean? Ive seen it pop up quite a few times.

The Monitor's are nice choices, I will add these to my list.

About the cabinet, which one would you choose if you had to put together a system like this? I am also looking for a case which comes with RGB fans.
 
Thank you for your quick reply. So AMD it is then. Looks like I have to look closer at the MB choices Ive made, I am a little hesitant about MSI, I would prefer ASUS or Gigabyte .
I will go for RGB Ram. I hope I have the ability to turn off all these RGB's if I am closer to epileptic shock. NZXT Z73 is way too pricey for its worth you say? Would Lian Li Galahad 360 do the job? I would be running the system all the time. I could go for DIY cooling, but I see its complicated work and its way too pricey. Any idea who at SP road could do it?
I will go for 3080 GPU, Would prefer ASUS or Zotac. What does LHR mean? Ive seen it pop up quite a few times.

The Monitor's are nice choices, I will add these to my list.

About the cabinet, which one would you choose if you had to put together a system like this? I am also looking for a case which comes with RGB fans.
NZXT Kraken Z73
Check the review here, Z73 seems noisy because of its out of the box profile. Take Deepcool Castle 240 as reference from there

Lian Li Galahad 360 liquid cooler review
Here Galahad seems quieter than Deepcool Castle 240 while running cooler as well, like Z73. Not a great way to compare, but I will conclude that both Z73 & Galahad 360 are close to each other overall. But Z73 has a LCD display & costs 2x here, so there's that.

I don't know who does custom water cooling in SP Road, maybe ask there. Usually its more expensive than an AIO but maybe costs similar to Z73, not sure. Ask & see what they say. There's another seller called TPS tech in Bengaluru, but located in Sanjay Nagar.

LHR - Low Hash Rate - means lower performance for ethereum mining (crypto). Doesn't affect games or other graphical tasks from what I know. Crypto miners were ready to pay the overinflated GPU rates, so LHR models have been a boon to gamers, somewhat. Zotac's triple-fan 3080 doesn't have the best thermals, but as I said, due to GPU shortage, grab whatever you find at a good price. Asus TUF RTX 3080 is a great GPU model for sure.

Regd. cabinet, I have no idea what lies beyond Lian Li Lancool II Mesh, CM TD500 mesh, Phanteks P400A, all of which cost just 8k+. Consider me a small person who will never spend over 10k on a cabinet. As I said, check O11's review by Gamers Nexus & read user reviews at reddit maybe.
 
OP
K

krinish

Journeyman
NZXT Kraken Z73
Check the review here, Z73 seems noisy because of its out of the box profile. Take Deepcool Castle 240 as reference from there

Lian Li Galahad 360 liquid cooler review
Here Galahad seems quieter than Deepcool Castle 240 while running cooler as well, like Z73. Not a great way to compare, but I will conclude that both Z73 & Galahad 360 are close to each other overall. But Z73 has a LCD display & costs 2x here, so there's that.

I don't know who does custom water cooling in SP Road, maybe ask there. Usually its more expensive than an AIO but maybe costs similar to Z73, not sure. Ask & see what they say. There's another seller called TPS tech in Bengaluru, but located in Sanjay Nagar.

LHR - Low Hash Rate - means lower performance for ethereum mining (crypto). Doesn't affect games or other graphical tasks from what I know. Crypto miners were ready to pay the overinflated GPU rates, so LHR models have been a boon to gamers, somewhat. Zotac's triple-fan 3080 doesn't have the best thermals, but as I said, due to GPU shortage, grab whatever you find at a good price. Asus TUF RTX 3080 is a great GPU model for sure.

Regd. cabinet, I have no idea what lies beyond Lian Li Lancool II Mesh, CM TD500 mesh, Phanteks P400A, all of which cost just 8k+. Consider me a small person who will never spend over 10k on a cabinet. As I said, check O11's review by Gamers Nexus & read user reviews at reddit maybe.
Thanks again omega44-xt: for your suggestions

NZXT has a cool feature that displays the Temp on the heatsink. It is costing twice as much as any other in that range. (Well you already mentioned these) Lian Li Galahad 360 is also rated decently. I will make up my mind once I have rest of the Parts confirmed and closer to purchase.

I reckon Custom water cooling would cost as much to assemble. So I would drop those plans, We are not there yet with DIY water cooling.
Appreciate you educating me on the LHR. I really don't want to be spending 1.5 x of the Graphics unit.

I could just buy all components and assemble without GPU, but the processor doesn't have on board GPU.

I am ready to wait, as I could hold off on gaming for a good while for the right time to buy the Graphics card, But I would like to use the system.

What would be the barest minimum of Graphics card that I could buy now, for say just basics(Coding, Youtube 4k Videos)?
 
Thanks again omega44-xt: for your suggestions

NZXT has a cool feature that displays the Temp on the heatsink. It is costing twice as much as any other in that range. (Well you already mentioned these) Lian Li Galahad 360 is also rated decently. I will make up my mind once I have rest of the Parts confirmed and closer to purchase.

I reckon Custom water cooling would cost as much to assemble. So I would drop those plans, We are not there yet with DIY water cooling.
Appreciate you educating me on the LHR. I really don't want to be spending 1.5 x of the Graphics unit.

I could just buy all components and assemble without GPU, but the processor doesn't have on board GPU.

I am ready to wait, as I could hold off on gaming for a good while for the right time to buy the Graphics card, But I would like to use the system.

What would be the barest minimum of Graphics card that I could buy now, for say just basics(Coding, Youtube 4k Videos)?
IMO, if you are willing to pay 1 lakh, just buy that Colorful RTX 3080. Even in Dec last year, 3080 were starting at 75-80k, 65k 3080 FE edition was a rarity, now a myth. See if you can find a 3080 for 1 lakh, just buy that.

Problem is, cheap GPUs are way too overpriced as well. Like 20k worth 1660S is close to 40k.

New link for 3080:
Buy Inno3D RTX 3080 iChill X4 LHR | 10G GDDR6X at Best Price in India
Buy Zotac RTX 3080 Trinity OC LHR at Best Price in India (I'll pick Zotac for 5 year warranty with registration)

Ask sellers here for RTX 3080 LHR prices:
Facebook मध्‍ये लॉग इन करा
I have bought multiple peripherals from here, there are trusted sellers there. Just ask for vouch in a new post, if you feel unsure about the seller's genuinity.
 
OP
K

krinish

Journeyman
IMO, if you are willing to pay 1 lakh, just buy that Colorful RTX 3080. Even in Dec last year, 3080 were starting at 75-80k, 65k 3080 FE edition was a rarity, now a myth. See if you can find a 3080 for 1 lakh, just buy that.

Problem is, cheap GPUs are way too overpriced as well. Like 20k worth 1660S is close to 40k.

New link for 3080:
Buy Inno3D RTX 3080 iChill X4 LHR | 10G GDDR6X at Best Price in India
Buy Zotac RTX 3080 Trinity OC LHR at Best Price in India (I'll pick Zotac for 5 year warranty with registration)

Ask sellers here for RTX 3080 LHR prices:
Facebook मध्‍ये लॉग इन करा
I have bought multiple peripherals from here, there are trusted sellers there. Just ask for vouch in a new post, if you feel unsure about the seller's genuinity.

I thought that a big-budget would guarantee an easy build. But damm, I am in the process of realizing the hardship one faces in sourcing the parts for assembling a high-end PC.

I have sent the list to Ankit, lets see if he can source and sell it to me at the best prices.
Thanks for the FB link, however, I see most sellers are from Mumbai/New Delhi.

Whats your thoughts on assembling a 3rd gen Threadripper Workstation? Say 3990X PROCESSOR.
 
I thought that a big-budget would guarantee an easy build. But damm, I am in the process of realizing the hardship one faces in sourcing the parts for assembling a high-end PC.

I have sent the list to Ankit, lets see if he can source and sell it to me at the best prices.
Thanks for the FB link, however, I see most sellers are from Mumbai/New Delhi.

Whats your thoughts on assembling a 3rd gen Threadripper Workstation? Say 3990X PROCESSOR.
If multicore performance for productivity is all you care, 3990X might be for you. But it will bump up the mobo cost significantly, also needs ECC memory I think.

Single-core performance is better in the latest AMD architecture, so 5950X is better in that regard. For gaming, obviously 5950X will be better because of that better single-core performance. I'm not sure how CPU intensive your productivity tasks would be, but R9 5950X is a pretty fast CPU with 16 cores, Intel has no answer for it.

Maybe you can get some parts from those sellers in fb group, like GPU maybe, or extra fans, SSD, peripherals like mouse, KB or headset. Still see what sellers at SP Road can offer you. Amazon sometimes has great deals on mobo, SSD, RAM, monitor, etc, so keep an eye there as well.
 
OP
K

krinish

Journeyman
So I finally Assembled my computer

Here is my complete Build. Costed me 4.01 Lakhs. Appreciate your help omega44-xt . I couldn't wait. Made some upgrade from previous list.

Proccy Ryzen 9 5950X
Motherboard ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero AM4 AMD X570S SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard
RAM GSKILL RIPJAWS V 64GB (32X2) DDR4 3600MHZ RAM BLACK (F4-3600C18D-64GVK)
Storage SAMSUNG 980 PRO 1TB M.2 NVMe GEN4 INTERNAL SSD (MZ-V8P1T0BW)
Storage Western Digital Blue SN550 1TB M.2 Internal SSD (Took your advise)
Storage Seagate 2TB 7200 RPM
Power Corsair RM1000X
Case LIAN LI PC-O11 DYNAMIC- ROG XL (Upgrade from Mid tower)
Cooler NZXT Kraken Z73 CPU Liquid Cooler (RL-KRZ73-01)
Graphic ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 3080 AMP Holo (Upgrade from previous choice)
Monitor 1 : Gigabyte G27Q

Fans 2 * CORSAIR QL Series, iCUE QL120 RGB, 120mm RGB LED Fan, Triple Pack with Lighting Node CORE, CO-9050098-WW

I am yet to buy a secondary monitor, Had to return ASUS Tuf gaming VG279(Amazon), due to it being very poor and an old model. Would go for 4k next.
 

TheSloth

The Slowest One
WOAH! :shock:
Congratulations!
How much you paid for 3080?
Those QL fans really add the Oomph! but how are you managing the wires?
At least post pictures of this beast after completing the assembly. I want to see how does it look from outside and inside.
 
OP
K

krinish

Journeyman
WOAH! :shock:
Congratulations!
How much you paid for 3080?
Those QL fans really add the Oomph! but how are you managing the wires?
At least post pictures of this beast after completing the assembly. I want to see how does it look from outside and inside.
Thanks, Paid 112k for the Graphics.
 

Attachments

  • 11.jpg
    777.1 KB · Views: 32
  • 22.jpg
    771 KB · Views: 32
  • 33.jpg
    756.2 KB · Views: 31

TheSloth

The Slowest One
Did you check the Lian Li's own Uni fans before finalizing on the QLs? Those would have saved some good cable routing work on the back side of the cabinet.
The setup looks great I want to say, especially with the Tron kind of lines on the GPU. Good stuff.
 
Top Bottom