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Buy Online ZOTAC GEFORCE RTX 2070 SUPER TWIN FAN Graphic Card ZT-T20710F-10P - in India

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Buy Online Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 Super Windforce OC 8GB Graphics Card GV-N207SWF3OC-8GC - in India

₹700 extra for Gigabyte but it gets an extra fan, though Zotac has 2+3 years warranty and Gigabyte has 4 years.
Why is it 2+3 and not 5 in case of Zotac? Do they have different T&C for first 2 years and next 3?

BTW, ordered these from Amazon yesterday:
  • Belkin Essential Series F9E400zb1.5MGRY 4-Socket Surge Protector
  • GoFree Reusable Self Attaching Cable Ties (Pack of 21)
  • Logitech G 304 Wireless Gaming Mouse (Black)
  • Redgear Invador MK881 Mechanical Keyboard (Black)
  • APC BX1100C-IN 1100VA 230V Back UPS
  • LG 27 inch 4K-UHD 27UK650
 
Buy Online ZOTAC GEFORCE RTX 2070 SUPER TWIN FAN Graphic Card ZT-T20710F-10P - in India

or

Buy Online Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 Super Windforce OC 8GB Graphics Card GV-N207SWF3OC-8GC - in India

₹700 extra for Gigabyte but it gets an extra fan, though Zotac has 2+3 years warranty and Gigabyte has 4 years.
Why is it 2+3 and not 5 in case of Zotac? Do they have different T&C for first 2 years and next 3?

BTW, ordered these from Amazon yesterday:
  • Belkin Essential Series F9E400zb1.5MGRY 4-Socket Surge Protector
  • GoFree Reusable Self Attaching Cable Ties (Pack of 21)
  • Logitech G 304 Wireless Gaming Mouse (Black)
  • Redgear Invador MK881 Mechanical Keyboard (Black)
  • APC BX1100C-IN 1100VA 230V Back UPS
  • LG 27 inch 4K-UHD 27UK650
Why not save 6-7k & buy RX 5700XT? Its not even 10% slower than 2070S. Dual fan models should be out in August.
 
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Why not save 6-7k & buy RX 5700XT? Its not even 10% slower than 2070S. Dual fan models should be out in August.
Not sure how much will be the price difference when twin fan models are out, the blower ones are running very hot. Also, Nvidia is giving two free games plus RT.

This runs very cool and quite
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That's way above my initial 12k worth of mobo consideration :neutral:
You can wait for gigabyte x570 gaming x mobo launching on 20th july for ~14.9k on primeabgb(cheapest x570 mobo currently is from asus for 15k & this one should be better than asus one).

Why is it 2+3 and not 5 in case of Zotac? Do they have different T&C for first 2 years and next 3?
Yes,first 2 years is standard warranty for everyone while next 3 years is only if you register the product online on zotac India site within 28 days of purchase.You also need to save the email confirmation of extra 3 years warranty from zotac as that will be required for availing any warranty during those extra 3 years of warranty.
 
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You can wait for gigabyte x570 gaming x mobo launching on 20th july for ~14.9k on primeabgb(cheapest x570 mobo currently is from asus for 15k & this one should be better than asus one).
I got the MSI X570 Gaming Edge already :)

Yes,first 2 years is standard warranty for everyone while next 3 years is only if you register the product online on zotac India site within 28 days of purchase.You also need to save the email confirmation of extra 3 years warranty from zotac as that will be required for availing any warranty during those extra 3 years of warranty.
That won't be an issue as I would be registering it on day one. I would be getting the Zotac GPU as for Gigabyte the wait is longer.
 
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Finally, I got the GPU yesterday after which I assembled the PC and to my surprise it booted in first attempt, I was able to make all connections properly. :D
Thank you everyone for helping me in building my PC.

*i.imgur.com/d7ibP1w.jpg

More pics: My first ever PC build
 
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Hello everyone, now I'm looking for more storage. Mainly for installing games and storing junk. For games I have shortlisted two 1TB SSDs Silicon Power A55 and Crucial MX500, A55 doesn't have a DRAM, but the speeds are good enough and is cheaper than MX500. For storing junk I am planning to get a 2TB HDD. Please provide suggestions for a 1TB SATA SSD and 2TB HDD.
 

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Buy Online Intel 1TB 660P NVMe M.2 Internal SSD SSDPEKNW010T801 In India
This drive is very good if all you just need to install windows/softwares once & then most of time using for playing games.Only issue with this drive is that its performance is heavily dependent on SLC cache which in turn depends on free space so when drive is 75% full then ~6gb cache is left so at that time if you decide to copy paste a 10gb file then its performance will be much less(say 100MB/s speed vs usual 400MB/s). If you think this won't work for you or you specifically want sata ssd thenI suggest this over silicon power Buy Online Kingston A400 2.5 inch 960GB SATA III TLC SSD SA400S37/960G In India

For 2TB hdd just get WD/seagate whichever you have a better luck with.
 
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Hello everyone, now I'm looking for more storage. Mainly for installing games and storing junk. For games I have shortlisted two 1TB SSDs Silicon Power A55 and Crucial MX500, A55 doesn't have a DRAM, but the speeds are good enough and is cheaper than MX500. For storing junk I am planning to get a 2TB HDD. Please provide suggestions for a 1TB SATA SSD and 2TB HDD.
DRAM-less works fine for games & normal storage, not good for OS.
 
Buy Online Intel 1TB 660P NVMe M.2 Internal SSD SSDPEKNW010T801 In India
This drive is very good if all you just need to install windows/softwares once & then most of time using for playing games.Only issue with this drive is that its performance is heavily dependent on SLC cache which in turn depends on free space so when drive is 75% full then ~6gb cache is left so at that time if you decide to copy paste a 10gb file then its performance will be much less(say 100MB/s speed vs usual 400MB/s). If you think this won't work for you or you specifically want sata ssd thenI suggest this over silicon power Buy Online Kingston A400 2.5 inch 960GB SATA III TLC SSD SA400S37/960G In India

For 2TB hdd just get WD/seagate whichever you have a better luck with.
After using 660p for ~6 months, I can confirm it is a good drive for cheap. When you copy big files, you will see HDD like speeds for sure, but you likely won't be doing those regularly. Idle temps were near 40C & 50-55C while gaming, bit hotter than my HP EX920 & old 850 evo, but not a reason to worry IMO. Here's an example of copy speeds:
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It would have been sweet if 1GBps speeds were constant.

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whitestar_999

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^^Review said 660p speed depends on cache & with your drive 56% full I am guessing cache size is now somewhere around 10-12gb so any copy paste of less than 10gb should give you those gbps speeds(assuming big files on an avg 1-2gb+ because transferring lots of small files will always be slower than few big files).
 

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^^Review said 660p speed depends on cache & with your drive 56% full I am guessing cache size is now somewhere around 10-12gb so any copy paste of less than 10gb should give you those gbps speeds(assuming big files on an avg 1-2gb+ because transferring lots of small files will always be slower than few big files).
Cache size is different for different drive size.
 

whitestar_999

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Cache size is different for different drive size.
Of course but what I meant was that in 660p case,cache size is not fixed & instead depends on free space in drive so cache size is more when drive is say 20% filled compared to when it is 75% filled irrespective of capacity of 660p model.
 
^^Review said 660p speed depends on cache & with your drive 56% full I am guessing cache size is now somewhere around 10-12gb so any copy paste of less than 10gb should give you those gbps speeds(assuming big files on an avg 1-2gb+ because transferring lots of small files will always be slower than few big files).
Cache size isn't much of a worry for crystaldisk mark, unless it's like 95% full, I think. For copying big files, sure. I had about 400GB free out of 1TB while copying a 80-85GB or so folder from EX920 to 660p & got upto 1.2GBps for 35-40GB. Most people don't do these stuff regularly, if you do, good SATA ones will give like 4x higher speeds for sure.
 
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Ordered Seagate 2TB 7200 RPM Barracuda Desktop Internal Hard Drive (ST2000DM008) from MDComputers. Will get 1TB SSD in the upcoming Amazon sale, either MX500 or 660P :)
 

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Make sure to compare prices with onlyssd at that time
Buy Online Intel 1TB 660P NVMe M.2 Internal SSD SSDPEKNW010T801 In India
 
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Make sure to compare prices with onlyssd at that time
Buy Online Intel 1TB 660P NVMe M.2 Internal SSD SSDPEKNW010T801 In India
Yeah, I would surely do that. Not expecting 660P to be cheaper on Amazon, but MX500 would be cheaper with 10% SBI off. I'm more inclined towards MX500 because of the higher endurance of 360TB TBW vs 200TB TBW of the 660P, I know I'm not going to exhaust the limit of 660P but more endurance proves the drive is more durable IMO. MX500 is also available in M.2 form factor.
 
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