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MetalheadGautham
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why ??
confused
Evolving Rapidly...
what cooling are you using???
i have more or less, decided on buying E2180 as a interim arrangement, since i have already waited for Q9450 for over 10 days.
infra_red_dude
Wire muncher!
With a pentium dual core proc. overclocking I'd suggest you stay away from this board. While the x3100 is much better (is dx10 compat.) than 630i onboard, intel boards lack overclockability. I'd suggest you either buy Gigabyte G33 or P35 based boards if Abit IP35 is costly.
MetalheadGautham
AFK
what about axxo's biostar mobo ?
he says his E2160 runs at 3.4 GHz with stock cooling.
ASUS ? It is soon going to have splashdot, a must feature which should have been on all motherboards since the year 2000 but is being concidered only recently.
keith_j_snyder2
Rising ApocalypsE
Dude i think i missed it, but L2 Cache matters in gaming. More L2 Cache gives better performance in gaming.
E2160/80 is a good economic alternative but E4500 has more L2 Cache.
Fahd.Malik has got E7200 for 5700/- from SMC.
E2160/80 is a good economic alternative but E4500 has more L2 Cache.
Fahd.Malik has got E7200 for 5700/- from SMC.
confused
Evolving Rapidly...
ok, then i have a question:is it worth paying 3k more to buy q9450 (12mb l2 cache) over q9300 (6mb l2 cache)???
keith_j_snyder2
Rising ApocalypsE
It's worth every single penny!
MetalheadGautham
AFK
one last thing I want to say here if you are buying E2180:
E2180 is much more costlier than E2160, while offering only a 200MHz increase in clock speed.
E2140 - 1.6GHz - Rs. 2500
E2160 - 1.8GHz - Rs. 2700
E2180 - 2.0GHz - Rs. 3300
as you can see, the first two are much more VFM compared to the third. As usual, intel is phasing out the first to and introducing the third only to extract more money from us.
Its a fact that E2160 can effortlessly go beyond E2180's clock speed, and can safely reach 2.4GHz and can go upto 3.4GHz safely with stock cooling.
The same goes for E2140.
So I recomend that you buy one of the first two instead of the second.
And about the importance of L2 cache, the 1mb extra l2 isn't worth the 2500 extra you spend on E4500. It hardly influences the performance in games, especially so when compared to the increase offered by spending that extra cash on getting a better GPU.
But the same case is not valid for the quad core, where 3k more is to be paid for getting 6mb more l2 cache for a quad core cpu. Those are performance CPUs, and with 4 cores, every mb of l2 cache matters, and hence 3k for 6mb l2 extra is worth every bit of the money you pay.
My current advice to you: buy the E2160 or E2140 first, get a cheap and good quality OverClocker approved motherboard, and use the money you save from buying E2160 on either getting a better board(recomended if no GPU) or a better GPU, if you are buying it, or just save it for the future.
Later, you can buy the Q3450.
Here is a thread by a user called aXXo, who set up one of the most perfect budget OverClocked systems ever, and enjoys a great performance from his CPU.
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79863
take a look there and see if you are upto it, because if so, just follow his steps(as he was successful) and you may have an uber rig.
E2180 is much more costlier than E2160, while offering only a 200MHz increase in clock speed.
E2140 - 1.6GHz - Rs. 2500
E2160 - 1.8GHz - Rs. 2700
E2180 - 2.0GHz - Rs. 3300
as you can see, the first two are much more VFM compared to the third. As usual, intel is phasing out the first to and introducing the third only to extract more money from us.
Its a fact that E2160 can effortlessly go beyond E2180's clock speed, and can safely reach 2.4GHz and can go upto 3.4GHz safely with stock cooling.
The same goes for E2140.
So I recomend that you buy one of the first two instead of the second.
And about the importance of L2 cache, the 1mb extra l2 isn't worth the 2500 extra you spend on E4500. It hardly influences the performance in games, especially so when compared to the increase offered by spending that extra cash on getting a better GPU.
But the same case is not valid for the quad core, where 3k more is to be paid for getting 6mb more l2 cache for a quad core cpu. Those are performance CPUs, and with 4 cores, every mb of l2 cache matters, and hence 3k for 6mb l2 extra is worth every bit of the money you pay.
My current advice to you: buy the E2160 or E2140 first, get a cheap and good quality OverClocker approved motherboard, and use the money you save from buying E2160 on either getting a better board(recomended if no GPU) or a better GPU, if you are buying it, or just save it for the future.
Later, you can buy the Q3450.
Here is a thread by a user called aXXo, who set up one of the most perfect budget OverClocked systems ever, and enjoys a great performance from his CPU.
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79863
take a look there and see if you are upto it, because if so, just follow his steps(as he was successful) and you may have an uber rig.
keith_j_snyder2
Rising ApocalypsE
Every processor has something special. Acc. to the models, there are multipliers etc.
E2140 can reach upto 3.2GHz.
E2160 can reach upto 3.6GHz.
E2180 can reach upto 3.8GHz....or may be more.
But E2140 has best value for money, but keep in mind that reaching that much higher clocks require great cooling and power too.
E2140 can reach upto 3.2GHz.
E2160 can reach upto 3.6GHz.
E2180 can reach upto 3.8GHz....or may be more.
But E2140 has best value for money, but keep in mind that reaching that much higher clocks require great cooling and power too.
Fahd.Malik
Broken In
I bought my new rig with a E7200 processor @5700/- from SMC international Nehru place.
It is neat!
and definately better than E4500 and its in the same price range.
It is neat!
and definately better than E4500 and its in the same price range.
OP
neeru_igi
bow chicka bow wow
i think the 5700 might overshoot the budget.ditto for all quad cores
@infrared dude how much does the gigabyte g33s and p35s cost?
as said above i'll go for better grafixcrd instead of procc. & board since i'll be gaming more.will i be able to run bioshock & crysis on good settings on a 8500/8600gt?
also suggestions for cheap procc-MoBo combination are welcome.thnx again.
@infrared dude how much does the gigabyte g33s and p35s cost?
as said above i'll go for better grafixcrd instead of procc. & board since i'll be gaming more.will i be able to run bioshock & crysis on good settings on a 8500/8600gt?
also suggestions for cheap procc-MoBo combination are welcome.thnx again.
keith_j_snyder2
Rising ApocalypsE
Bioshock - Yes, Crysis - NO, 8600GT is good for gaming under 1024x768 resolution. Crysis is bit more graphics hungry game and require powerful GPU. Though u will not enjoy eye candy graphics in crysis but under mid settings, its all good.
As hellgate suggested in 5th post of this thread, if budget is a problem then settle for 630i, decent overclocking features and onboard video too.
Biostar P35D2A-7 is a cheaper option and will cost almost 3800/-
since u wanna game get the best GPU that ur money can buy.the procy and mobo wont make a hell of a diif (i.e in the amt u wanna spend).all of the E2xxx series o.c well and performance diff aint huge.better get a E2140 and oc to 3.2GHz.dont go after E2180 and think bout hitting 3.6GHz and above cuz u'll be limited by the mobo.remember 630i is not a oc'er mobo.
if u wanna oc then the least u can get is Biostar P35D2A-7 (which Darklord has tested with E8500) or better still abit IP35-E but u wont be able to buy a good gfx card if u go 4 these mobos.
ur best option is get a E2140 and XFX 630i and game on onboard till u hav enuf money to buy a 9600GT or 8800GT.
if u wanna oc then the least u can get is Biostar P35D2A-7 (which Darklord has tested with E8500) or better still abit IP35-E but u wont be able to buy a good gfx card if u go 4 these mobos.
ur best option is get a E2140 and XFX 630i and game on onboard till u hav enuf money to buy a 9600GT or 8800GT.
MetalheadGautham
AFK
pay 200 rupees more and get a E2160 ?
its a known fact that 2160 is always better than 2140 because from what most tomshardware guys say, it has a clock limit which is equal to the limit of commonly used budget mobos for it.
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