Need Help to buy a New Reliable all round Performer Laptop (Affordable)

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:) I want to know if ordinary usb c can charge anything at all like we sometimes charge small devices on USB A. For example I used to charge/transfer data iPod on ‘usb A port’ and also used pen drives on usb A to transfer files to and fro. Likewise any utility for ordinary usb C?
 
:) I want to know if ordinary usb c can charge anything at all like we sometimes charge small devices on USB A. For example I used to charge/transfer data iPod on ‘usb A port’ and also used pen drives on usb A to transfer files to and fro. Likewise any utility for ordinary usb C?
Type C port on computers acts like a normal type A port & in some cases just adds extra features over it like DP output, Thunderbolt 3/4 or to charge the device at upto 100W.

So you can charge an iPod from type C port on computers.
 
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That would be a relief. Documentation for usb C power delivery is a lot confusing, one would wonder if they are talking about charge IN or charge OUT.

Incidentally checked out a latitude 14 and found it’s 1.5+ weight satisfying. So I’m having second thoughts on getting something that may weigh greater than 1.9 kg. Also was wondering if 14 would do. Though easy on hands not sure about eyes and scaling/resolution. 14 inches more or less come in same size but 15.6 inches vary a lot…..I prefer compact builds without excesses on length/breadth/thickness. And what about literal 15 inch ones? Don’t we have any 15 inch laptop at all, search for one always leads to 15.6 inch display?

Thinkpads though hold certain allure regarding build, this gen 2 e15 are steep in price.

Came across this model:
*www.hp.com/in-en/shop/hp-pavilion-laptop-14-dv0055tu-2n1l1pa.html#bv_reviews
Even has something related to usb c pd. Also gaming with iris xe also getting positive reviews.

It even has a 15.6 inch equivalent with dGPU but reviews aren’t that good esp. regarding heat. HP Pavilion Laptop 15-eg0104TX

So taking into view ergonomic comfort with weight/size my weight criterion gets refined between 1.65 kg to 1.90 kg and some gaming laptops can be out of bound…a few recommendations were around 2.2 kg. Any recommendation based on new weight criterion and config close to above hp models?
 

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i'll recommend u to buy amd ryzen laptops as they are cheaper and performs better and gets good thermals vega 7 igpu is fine for normal use
lenovo slim(5500u model), 1.66kg ips display
there is also a 5700u model that goes for 63k it has weight of 1.39kg
as for gaming laptops light ones are quite pricey(i only saw the zephyrus g14 ) ,most gaming laptops weighs like 2.2kg avrg
 
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First Lenova model (lslim 5500u)—does it have reliable build? One review showed how the display is shaky with ceiling fan’s air flow, a few more said colour accuracy was poor. Rj45 missing but might overlook it if otherwise the machine is good .

Last time when I had Lenova(ideapad), build was not great, the bottom lid started to splinter after some months almost disturbing the charge port; and integrated graphics spoiled video quality(video consumption and webcam) for me. But battery/charger was better compared to two hp laptops. Speaker volume was better than hp but tinny. Display died and with that laptop also died. Current hp had the longest life span with approx 5 years, prior hp 3 and Lenova just two.
 
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First Lenova model (lslim 5500u)—does it have reliable build? One review showed how the display is shaky with ceiling fan’s air flow, a few more said colour accuracy was poor. Rj45 missing but might overlook it if otherwise the machine is good .

Last time when I had Lenova(ideapad), build was not great, the bottom lid started to splinter after some months almost disturbing the charge port; and integrated graphics spoiled video quality(video consumption and webcam) for me. But battery/charger was better compared to two hp laptops. Speaker volume was better than hp but tinny. Display died and with that laptop also died. Current hp had the longest life span with approx 5 years, prior hp 3 and Lenova just two.
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If you can throw more light on what’s confusing may be able to explain better. Or I must be missing something.

The allure about build was about thinkpad and the reservations I expressed and experience was about ideapad. I had clicked the suggested model on Amazon there I saw some reviews about display quality being not par and even how screen was fragile enough to shake under ceiling fan’s air flow.

However it’s confusing and tiresome(mind boggling/overwhelming but hard to find requirements in a single machine) to find something that I can buy soon. If you can help solve this difficulty would be great with your knowledge/wisdom.
 
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If you can throw more light on what’s confusing may be able to explain better. Or I must be missing something.

The allure about build was about thinkpad and the reservations I expressed and experience was about ideapad. I had clicked the suggested model on Amazon there I saw some reviews about display quality being not par and even how screen was fragile enough to shake under ceiling fan’s air flow.

However it’s confusing and tiresome(mind boggling/overwhelming but hard to find requirements in a single machine) to find something that I can buy soon. If you can help solve this difficulty would be great with your knowledge/wisdom.
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Have come across following Display parameters. How important are these? Many models suggested usually lie in the low range, would they make for good display and viewing for HD content like OTT content?

Nits 250 or 300 is called low end by some reviewers(end users).

45% NTSC in most machines but occasionally they have 72, 65.

Some reviews even talk about the difference between sRGB % varying between 57% and 100%, 100% is called good one but is a rare thing to find.

Another thing is 16:10 vs 16:9 aspect ratio.

Ppi?
 
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Hi

Have come across following Display parameters. How important are these? Many models suggested usually lie in the low range, would they make for good display and viewing for HD content like OTT content?

Nits 250 or 300 is called low end by some reviewers.

45% NTSC in most machines but occasionally they have 72, 65.

Some reviews even talk about the difference between sRGB % varying between 57% and 100%, 100% is called good one but is a rare thing to find.

Another thing is 16:10 vs 16:9 aspect ratio.
u dont need 100% srgb if u aint a professional photo/video editing guy(they'd put quite some money to buy color accurate products) 16 width 9/10 height ratio.
 
Hi

Have come across following Display parameters. How important are these? Many models suggested usually lie in the low range, would they make for good display and viewing for HD content like OTT content?

Nits 250 or 300 is called low end by some reviewers(end users).

45% NTSC in most machines but occasionally they have 72, 65.

Some reviews even talk about the difference between sRGB % varying between 57% and 100%, 100% is called good one but is a rare thing to find.

Another thing is 16:10 vs 16:9 aspect ratio.

Ppi?
For a 50k laptop, 45% NTSC (approx 70% sRGB) coverage with 250 nits of brightness, IPS panel is what you will get mostly & is fine. Avoid TN panels at 50k.

16:10 is kind of better to have, but usually expensive, so most laptops are 16:9.
 
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Yes has been difficult to find good display options, even looking at 60-75k budget, result is same.


Came across these models:



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*www.flipkart.com/lenovo-thinkpad-e...ons?pid=COMGF42GHFSYMKFK&marketplace=FLIPKART



Here the link is cleaner than on Amazon.

Which generation is this? 1 or 2?

Pluses: thunderbolt, the build of thinkpad(hopefully E series is not bad and is on par), i5 11th, dGPU (but basic). Also fiber make.



Minuses: price may be not getting bang for the buck. Not sure of card reader, may have to buy it separately. Off late hearing delay in after sales service, is that true?

Was unable to find amd Ryzen equivalent. Has it been released in India yet?

Which generation is this? 1 or 2 or 3?

Also senti about thinkpad. So this or another better thinkpad series with budget stretch of another 20k, may consider it. But from my looks a great thinkpad costs at least 1.5L -2.5 L it seems.


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Buy HP Pavilion 15 Ryzen 5 15.6-inch (39.6 cms) Thin & Light FHD Laptop (16GB/512GB SSD/Windows 10/MS Office/Fingerprint Reader/Natural Silver/1.75 kg), 15-eh1103AU Online at Low Prices in India - Amazon.in



Pluses: 16 gb ram(with windows nothing is too much RAM), ips, may gravitate towards it to get card reader and IPS Panel compared to Lower priced 8gb one. Here too all display parameters remain the same like 250 nits and 45%NTSC despite a small bump in budget.


Minuses: from my perception: metallic. I’d like non metallic make like fiber. Possibly no rj45 but may buy later. Not immediate necessity.



How about thermals? Which one will have better experience with high quality video consumption? General all-round performance? Adhoc heavy tasks?







Budget if stretched upto 70-75k to meet requirements in a satisfying manner, with. weight between 1.6 kg to 1.9 kg, fhd IPS (good colours there’s a lot confusion about colour gamut/accuracy), good/wide connectivity options including sd/4 in 1 card reader, possible thunderbolt (possible future proofing and adhoc requirement proofing) factors like processor, thermals, reliability, no cheap/fragile build including components like display, webcam, speaker, frame/hinges, ergonomic keyboard/touchpad Which other machines/models would I be looking at? Another alternative question—-if I don’t want to go cheap regarding components’ and build quality what budget am I looking at?
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CONNECTIVITY PORT(S)

which one can be bought in terms of missing connectivity options like Ethernet port or multi use card reader? Should it be standalone or many in one? Which models are good?
 
45% NTSC panels usually have 65-70% sRGB coverage, common for that price.

For 70k, this is the best multimedia 15" laptop:
*www.amazon.in/dp/B095KMNZCW/
R7 5700U is IMO overkill for most people & its iGPU is not suitable for anything more than light gaming or playing some newer games at 720p 30fps.

For a proper gaming laptop:
*www.amazon.in/dp/B095KQ1G3X/

This is an entry level gaming laptop that can run all the available games, obviously at low settings, but the GPU is much faster than AMD's iGPU or Nvidia MX250/350. You will have to add another 8GB DDR4 3200MHz RAM stick to it.

For best gaming performance:
Amazon.in
That Victus will outperform a desktop GTX 1060 in most cases, close to laptop 1660Ti.

Do mention what games you even intend to play?
 
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45% NTSC panels usually have 65-70% sRGB coverage, common for that price.

For 70k, this is the best multimedia 15" laptop:
*www.amazon.in/dp/B095KMNZCW/
R7 5700U is IMO overkill for most people & its iGPU is not suitable for anything more than light gaming or playing some newer games at 720p 30fps.

For a proper gaming laptop:
*www.amazon.in/dp/B095KQ1G3X/

This is an entry level gaming laptop that can run all the available games, obviously at low settings, but the GPU is much faster than AMD's iGPU or Nvidia MX250/350. You will have to add another 8GB DDR4 3200MHz RAM stick to it.

For best gaming performance:
Amazon.in
That Victus will outperform a desktop GTX 1060 in most cases, close to laptop 1660Ti.

Do mention what games you even intend to play?
Onyx and victus are above my weight threshold 1.9kg —2.2 and 2.48 respectively.
Not a regular or AAA type gamer. Used to do shooting, racing , fifa, cricket games but in laptops games got sickening due to stutter. Only later realised the difference between laptop and desktop difference. Well I just need reasonable capability that when an occasion arises for gaming or heavy task, machine doesn’t prove incapable.

Thanks for the info. about NTSC sRGB correlation.
 

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Onyx and victus are above my weight threshold 1.9kg —2.2 and 2.48 respectively.
Not a regular or AAA type gamer. Used to do shooting, racing , fifa, cricket games but in laptops games got sickening due to stutter. Only later realised the difference between laptop and desktop difference. Well I just need reasonable capability that when an occasion arises for gaming or heavy task, machine doesn’t prove incapable.

Thanks for the info. about NTSC sRGB correlation.
u'd need to put in atleast above 80k to buy a zephyrus g14.This one is light(1.6kg).U cant get everything under a tight budget.either push ur budget close to 80-90k minimum or buy a non dgpu laptop and be satisfied with it
 
Onyx and victus are above my weight threshold 1.9kg —2.2 and 2.48 respectively.
Not a regular or AAA type gamer. Used to do shooting, racing , fifa, cricket games but in laptops games got sickening due to stutter. Only later realised the difference between laptop and desktop difference. Well I just need reasonable capability that when an occasion arises for gaming or heavy task, machine doesn’t prove incapable.

Thanks for the info. about NTSC sRGB correlation.
Forget gaming then. Stutter happens because dGPU is weak or non-existent. As I said, a laptop RTX 3050 will perform similar to a desktop GTX 1060, which is a capable GPU.
 
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Forget gaming then. Stutter happens because dGPU is weak or non-existent. As I said, a laptop RTX 3050 will perform similar to a desktop GTX 1060, which is a capable GPU.
Ok among the three the two I mentioned—thinkpad e15, Hp ryzen 1103au; and ideapad 5 or the 7 mentioned just above by Akash which may satisfy my requirements most from the point of build quality, performance , video watching, basic gaming?
 
Ok among the three the two I mentioned—thinkpad e15, Hp ryzen 1103au; and ideapad 5 or the 7 mentioned just above by Akash which may satisfy my requirements most from the point of build quality, performance , video watching, basic gaming?
Ryzen APUs have a decent iGPU, so does Intel's 11th gen CPUs. But those can run very basic games, forget playing something like CoD, but FIFA is a light game, so should be fine along with CS GO, Valorant, etc.

Intel's 11th gen has a weak CPU compared to AMD R5 & R7 4th/5th gen. So take your call.
 
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Ryzen APUs have a decent iGPU, so does Intel's 11th gen CPUs. But those can run very basic games, forget playing something like CoD, but FIFA is a light game, so should be fine along with CS GO, Valorant, etc.

Intel's 11th gen has a weak CPU compared to AMD R5 & R7 4th/5th gen. So take your call.
Ok thanks. Yes I understand specific model or brand should be my call. I’m hearing a new headache requirement for windows 11 like processor eligibility and TPM 2.0 requirement. I believe every model we discussed here are windows 11 proof or is there anything to look for this win 11 proofing?

Came across following models: anybody got any inputs do inform. Company HP.

eg0124TX ; ec2076AX particular doubt about sRGB value as some say though NTSC is 72%, sRGB is <65%, is it possible?

Thanks Akash and omega for pointing out to Lenovo slim 5. Zephyrus 15 not available and 1.37L another thing with zephyrus also it’s asus. Have decided to settle with 15.6 whichever it is. This is the first time I’ve not immediately (typically within a few days)replaced the laptop due to other personal issues and the difficulty and confusion in Choosing one.
 
Ok thanks. Yes I understand specific model or brand should be my call. I’m hearing a new headache requirement for windows 11 like processor eligibility and TPM 2.0 requirement. I believe every model we discussed here are windows 11 proof or is there anything to look for this win 11 proofing?

Came across following models: anybody got any inputs do inform. Company HP.

eg0124TX ; ec2076AX particular doubt about sRGB value as some say though NTSC is 72%, sRGB is <65%, is it possible?

Thanks Akash and omega for pointing out to Lenovo slim 5. Zephyrus 15 not available and 1.37L another thing with zephyrus also it’s asus. Have decided to settle with 15.6 whichever it is. This is the first time I’ve not immediately (typically within a few days)replaced the laptop due to other personal issues and the difficulty and confusion in Choosing one.
I think almost all recent laptops except maybe some 30k ones should be Win11 ready with TPM 2.0 present. I think you can sideload Win11 if its not officially supported by using an OS install media, but direct upgrade keeping files won't work.

We will know more next month.
 
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I think almost all recent laptops except maybe some 30k ones should be Win11 ready with TPM 2.0 present. I think you can sideload Win11 if its not officially supported by using an OS install media, but direct upgrade keeping files won't work.

We will know more next month.
Well ended up buying 2076ax one with almost double the initial budget. Keeping the search open was like misery. Things weren’t moving as I would have liked. It’s 11 ready as the manufacturer’s site listed. Was looking at ideapad 5 ryzen 5700u and got stretched to 5800H. Two firsts 1) First AMD for someone who always heard about how inferior AMD is 2) First machine with a dGPU. Any inputs to make use of this for OTT High Quality watching would be welcome.

Well Im into teething trouble. Didn’t think even on 15 inches there would be scaling options with neither 100% nor recommended 125% would be big enough.

Don’t know why I’m unable to set one finger edge scrolling on this …like and prefer single finger edge scrolling on touchpad (it always seems like how much you spend you are forced to compromise and tolerate). This seems to be cheap elan compared to synaptics and hasn’t got ‘clickpad settings’ to set this right. If this is some software omission and can be corrected please help me.
 
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