Need Advice on buying 49 inch OR 50 inch television

Zangetsu

I am the master of my Fate.
What is the exact size of TV to feel 4K content or best to watch?
65" or more but 55" is decent for 4K.
Also it depends on the viewing distance
Refer below article to get more info
What Size 4K Ultra HD TV is Right for My Room?

Some people opt for 4K projectors to feel the real difference of 4K

*i.i.cbsi.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2013/01/27/resolution_chart.jpg

An Excellent article on 4K
Why Ultra HD 4K TVs are still stupid

 
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Zangetsu

I am the master of my Fate.
This VU TV launching in FK has Dolby Vision & DLED panel

Awesome deal actually
Vu Premium Android 4k Smart Tv Store Online - Buy Vu Premium Android 4k Smart Tv Online at Best Price in India | Flipkart.com
 
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sandynator

sandynator

Cyborg Agent
Almost finalized.
Subject to availability.

50 inches model(this is only available at the moment)
2 yrs comprehensive doorstep warranty,

Asia Pacific specific model. Hope to live to its name.




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sandynator

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^^What's the expected final price & who will handle the after sales support?
Videocon or PE electronics is out of question...

If I am not mistaken TPV technology will be only be handling after sales support.
Currently they are using their current AOC division support facilities.

I am still not sure if I can disclose my discounted pricing as of now. I will be approaching their sales team / warehouse/ distribution house by Monday or Tuesday.

I have confirmed from 2 sources within industry & they said selling price will be around 60000 to 65000 for 50 inch model 50PUT6103S/94.
Firstly they have started with western region and spreading out rapidly. In talks with big outlets here like croma, Vijay sales, Kohinoor etc.

UPDATE: Yesterday Videocon service confirmed that my refund process is initiated & I will be getting remaining 30% value of invoice back in my bank account.

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sandynator

sandynator

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Finally I booked Philips 50PUT6103S/94 model at quite a deal which I am not allowed to disclose in public.

Tentatively the price of 50 inch will around 55k to 58k as told to me.

Warranty 2 yrs comprehensive.

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Philpis TV & Sound Brochure_12Feb.pdf

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shreeux

Movie Buff
Finally I booked Philips 50PUT6103S/94 model at quite a deal which I am not allowed to disclose in public.

Tentatively the price of 50 inch will around 55k to 58k as told to me.

Warranty 2 yrs comprehensive.

Uploading brochure for reference

Philpis TV & Sound Brochure_12Feb.pdf

Great, Post pic and review.

What special on this compare to others?
 
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sandynator

sandynator

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Great, Post pic and review.

What special on this compare to others?

Nothing special as such. I may have risked my money too.:crazy::rolleyes:
It could be worse to Samsung NU7100 which I had shortlisted earlier. I have also not seen the tv as yet. Not sure IPS panel or VA but mostly it will be VA panel.

You can call me Philips Fanboy. Recently got Philips CPAP machine neglecting other brands for my dad & still using Philips Water Purifier since last 10 years.;-) Coming to the point I truly liked their picture engine since I saw in late 2012.

I confirmed its globally launched product in 2019 or late 2018. [Asia Pacific, African Region, Middle East & more]
In UK & European countries they dominate. Newly launched P5 picture engine is very good too.

Finally I got best price from Senior Sales Executive of TPV Technology India Pvt. Ltd who are official licence holder for the brand Philips TV globally as well as Audio at-least in India.
The sale is routed through Distributor & will get delivery in 2 days once he gets stock from Philips[TPV].

Got 2 years comprehensive warranty & may get 1 more year extra too which is unsure & will be confirmed during installation by Philips.
 

shreeux

Movie Buff
Nothing special as such. I may have risked my money too.:crazy::rolleyes:
It could be worse to Samsung NU7100 which I had shortlisted earlier. I have also not seen the tv as yet. Not sure IPS panel or VA but mostly it will be VA panel.

You can call me Philips Fanboy. Recently got Philips CPAP machine neglecting other brands for my dad & still using Philips Water Purifier since last 10 years.;-) Coming to the point I truly liked their picture engine since I saw in late 2012.

I confirmed its globally launched product in 2019 or late 2018. [Asia Pacific, African Region, Middle East & more]
In UK & European countries they dominate. Newly launched P5 picture engine is very good too.

Finally I got best price from Senior Sales Executive of TPV Technology India Pvt. Ltd who are official licence holder for the brand Philips TV globally as well as Audio at-least in India.
The sale is routed through Distributor & will get delivery in 2 days once he gets stock from Philips[TPV].

Got 2 years comprehensive warranty & may get 1 more year extra too which is unsure & will be confirmed during installation by Philips.

Ok, fine...reveal the exact price...Let me know.,
 
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sandynator

sandynator

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Ok, fine...reveal the exact price...Let me know.,
Sorry, I cannot reveal the exact price. All I can just say that the price could be slightly above if not equal to what they offer to big retail outlets like Croma, Reliance Digital etc for bulk purchases.;-)
 

cute.bandar

Cyborg Agent
I may have risked my money too.:crazy::rolleyes:
Don't worry. Its always better to go with trusted brands, if one can afford it. Trust me, I suffered with videocon.
Plus good upscaling is make or break with 4k Tv currently with so little 4k content, which IMHO only established brands may have the software know-how. How is the upscaling here anyways ? How does SD content look ? Basically I want to know whether FULLHD content looks better on FHD or on a 4k tV
 
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sandynator

sandynator

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Don't worry. Its always better to go with trusted brands, if one can afford it. Trust me, I suffered with videocon.
Plus good upscaling is make or break with 4k Tv currently with so little 4k content, which IMHO only established brands may have the software know-how. How is the upscaling here anyways ? How does SD content look ? Basically I want to know whether FULLHD content looks better on FHD or on a 4k tV
Full HD content looks better on Full HD tvs than 4k in my view and experience with 43 inches 4k Samsung NU7100 side by side compared to some FHD Sony model I guess it was W800 in croma store. Finally it depends on picture processing engine.
For large screens viewing from close distance 4k may not look pixelated compared to FHD.

In fact I would have preferred Philips 43 inches FHD model but stock availability was an issue and it had 2 HDMI. Majority members of family wanted size up from 40 inches and 43 looked similar.

Even if I had compromised on HDMI ports Waiting time was more for 43 inch. We all were bored as no television since mid of February and also wanted to keep my dad entertained after his discharge from the hospital.

Btw delivery of tv after 2 days.

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whitestar_999

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@cute.bandar @sandynator There is madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted) - Doom9's Forum which is the best upscaler one can get for free.It uses your graphics card to process & upscale imags which beat any similar hardware solution from TVs but this comes at a price of high requirements.For upscaling to 4k,a 1060 6gb is bare minimum & its highest settings can even bring a 2080 to its knees(of course that is only for serious image quality enthusiasts who spend thousands of $ setting up their home theater system).
 

Minion

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@cute.bandar @sandynator There is madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted) - Doom9's Forum which is the best upscaler one can get for free.It uses your graphics card to process & upscale imags which beat any similar hardware solution from TVs but this comes at a price of high requirements.For upscaling to 4k,a 1060 6gb is bare minimum & its highest settings can even bring a 2080 to its knees(of course that is only for serious image quality enthusiasts who spend thousands of $ setting up their home theater system).
MadVR though is good but it uses huge amount of GPU and CPU, upscalers in tv are way better than these software solutions. upscalers in Tvs are specifically created to do one thing that is improving PQ and they do excel in this matter.
 

whitestar_999

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MadVR though is good but it uses huge amount of GPU and CPU, upscalers in tv are way better than these software solutions. upscalers in Tvs are specifically created to do one thing that is improving PQ and they do excel in this matter.
Don't take it otherwise but have you checked the official doom9 madvr thread.The quality & content of many of the posts there can match or exceed many pros in video industry.Quality improvement may be subjective even there but everyone there would unanimously declare that no hardware upscaler(at least not the ones public have access to) can match madvr upscaling done with recommended graphics card for that resolution/setting. Logically also you think how can any TVs upscaler can match processing power of a 1060 6gb/similar/better graphics card which is exactly what madvr uses(& the reason why it can even put a 1080Ti/2080 under 100% load when using its highest possible settings).
 

cute.bandar

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Even I ordered my TV 2 days back! Mi 49" Pro TV . 30k
is FullHD, which I prefer due to unsatisfactory upscaling on 4k and because a lot of content that parents watch is still SD , 'news' channels.
Have several Mi devices which have been of terrific life, value for money and great build quality overall. mi router, mi band, weighing scale, android box, phone. So I think good brand.
Features: HDR, IPS. No idea how useful/good HDR is. We'll see.
Smart stuff: I don't really care here, has a few nifty features that I'll explore - ability to control DTH, voice search.
Within budget: Didn't have much room to play here. Although Papa was leaning to spend more for LG 45k, but performance of several mi devices convinced me stick with mi.
 
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sandynator

sandynator

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Even I ordered my TV 2 days back! Mi 49" Pro TV . 30k
is FullHD, which I prefer due to unsatisfactory upscaling on 4k and because a lot of content that parents watch is still SD , 'news' channels.
Have several Mi devices which have been of terrific life, value for money and great build quality overall. mi router, mi band, weighing scale, android box, phone. So I think good brand.

I had also thought of 43 inch mi 4a pro but my brother had been to mi home to check the tv and brightness seemed too low in well lit show room. So he black listed that.

In 49/50 inches full hd screen I think would look more pixelated for close distance viewing in my case of 8-9 feets max.

Samsung nu7100 was shortlisted for its va panel.
Final call of size 49/ 50 inches was taken on last weekend as our earlier tv was 40 inch and going for 43 inches was not much difference. More over we just shifted to our new residence so there was bit of exitement for bigger tv.

Earlier Philips 50 inch quote from a known source was 55 - 58k so even he also suggested better get sammy for 49.5k

It was on saturday evening around 6.15 pm I just called up philips customer care and from them I got contact of Area sales manager. After contacting him he gave me contact number of senior sales exe from my area. Had nice conversation with him & bargained hard. He shared the contact of his distributor. On monday in personal meeting at distributors office he shared his final discounted price which was less than earlier as I was ready to pay in cash.

Got GST in voice, 2 yrs comprehensive in house warranty and may get 1 more year extra. Was promised to get it delivered and installed till yesterday but it was delayed from philips warehouse to distributor. Due to holi festival delivery staff were limited & I had option to pick up in person but seeing the box dimension it would be difficult to fit in back seat of car. So opted for courier delivery which may happen on friday or saturday

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Minion

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Don't take it otherwise but have you checked the official doom9 madvr thread.The quality & content of many of the posts there can match or exceed many pros in video industry.Quality improvement may be subjective even there but everyone there would unanimously declare that no hardware upscaler(at least not the ones public have access to) can match madvr upscaling done with recommended graphics card for that resolution/setting. Logically also you think how can any TVs upscaler can match processing power of a 1060 6gb/similar/better graphics card which is exactly what madvr uses(& the reason why it can even put a 1080Ti/2080 under 100% load when using its highest possible settings).
You misread my post MadVR is good but it is very CPU/GPU intensive its good only when you already have a decent GPU like a 1060 GTX or higher which itself cost 20-25k while image processors are better option they are specifically build for such tasks and don't require any additional effort or power.
I have tried MADVR and my favorite is jinc upscaler but its very GPU intensive and my GTX 840 can't handle 10 bit 1080p HEVC with madvr renderer so i gave up on madvr for now
 

whitestar_999

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1060 is mainly for 4k upscaling,for 1080p upscaling a 1050Ti can handle good enough settings of madvr.

It is all about how much of a enthusiast you are,people also buy 50k+ speakers for audio quality & in a similar manner people also buy 1080 for madvr & especially if you are a gamer then you will already be having a decent gfx card anyway. I do agree that it is not for "usual home family" who prefer simple plug & play type approach.
 
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