sakumar79 said:
If the average user can remove the trialware, he can disable automatic updates too. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to know how to do it... Even if you look at the recent case where it was said that the update service of MS updated itself silently, you will notice that it was mentioned for those who disabled automatic update service, this would not happen...
Your wording of the previous post ("anything done to a user's PC without his consent is illegal") is vague enough to include the crapware installations by Dell and such companies as illegal... Can you tell me whether the user had the option earlier to not have the trialware at all in the first place? Even if they uninstalled it, it would leave traces of itself in the registry, etc... Only now some of the companies are deciding to remove the installation of such crapware...
Restart silently did not mean silently literally... You have to read it in the context of my post. It means that after the update, sometimes windows needs to reboot to make the updates take effect... Usually, it says that system will restart in 30 seconds and give option to postpone restart... Since in goobimama's case he had left it to download at night, he couldnt manually postpone it... So, it restarted without his intervention...
Arun
R u trying to say that updating the service itself silently is any different from getting other updates silently? R u trying for an MVP?
Why don't u ask ur relatives who know how to do stuff on MS-Office and simple installs to do maintainence of which services.msc and regedit is an integral part? Why dont u ask them to disable the services without ur help? I requested u to talk something sensible!
And my reference to 'silent' is what it is said in the article I provided! But it seems u r njoying twisting it n givin it a different meaning! If I dont want windows, then wud u call it as 'crapware'?
I can argue similarly that it leaves the traces of binary 1s and 0s. So please talk sensibly! That crapware/trialware u called isn't breaching ur system. Now how can it, even when u removed it?
About 'earlier', people earlier din't have much choice for OS also. U wanna say that installed windows was also illegal? Like I said, things r changing and options r being brought in. U can install OS of ur choice. Does that choice resides in windows updates?? The service updates itself silently n privacy gets mocked!
Can u stop the service etc from getting updated itself silently like the article explains so clearly with proofs?
Ofcors I dont want IE in windows and that stupid WMP. Will u call that crapware again?
As u can see MS gives literally nuthing out of box. Ur drivers,winzip,winrar,AV,firewall,anti-intection-ware etc all need to be installed. They gave a joke called disk-defragement instead. Everything is 3rd party and u pay 5000+ bucks for a 'crapware' CD that becomes workable only after a couple of service packs and updates r installed!!
I guess windows+3rd party that u r so fond of calling as 'crapware' is somewhat near to a desirable OS that can do anything functional n desirable. I still cant understand why u term it as 'illegal'.
BTW, u can visit Nehru Place in Delhi and tell the vendor what all u want to have in ur PC. Options that is! If u dont like the crapware u can tell em at the shop itself that u dont want to have that 'crapware'. Can u knock the doors of MS to tell em the same?
Please dont confuse again. What I am talking of is privacy and u r talking bt options!! I feel sorry for ur comprehension skills, so dont feel that I'm insulting anyone next time.
imav said:
it tells u after how long shud it remind u that an update requires a reboot (min 10mins max 4 hours) so keep postponing it after 4 hours
Thats for goobi to reply! Neways I wud have appreciated if there wud have been an option called "Never" to bother!
