need Suggestion for new Amd Rig

Hsakarp_kahtap

CG Artist++
Hi Friends I am planning to buy a new AMD Rig with in 42-43k(in next month a i don't have a enough budget .Main Purpose of the Rig is Photoshop CS5,Premiere, After effects,Maya(rendering and VFX) etc, a casual gaming(FPS games)
Here is the config..


Processor AMD Phenom II X6 1055T 2.8 ghz-10500/10000
Motherboard MSI GA-890GX- 7200
Ram G.Skill RIPJAWS 2*2GB 1333mhz -6300
Graphics Card MSI 5770 TWin Forz Edition 1 GB
HDD Western Digital Caviar Blue 500 G.B-2050
Cabinet NZXT Gamma Cabinet -2600
DVD RW LG DVD writer -1050
SMPS Corsair VX450W-3900

Price is from SMC International(By Mr. Gurmeet), I know the NZXt Gamma is overpriced by them( they told 2400 to rahul and 2600 to me :shock:). well now i will write a e-mail to their sale dept. for the inquiry for the same and check the price variation.

Plz comment ...
 

coderunknown

Retired Forum Mod
Hi Friends I am planning to buy a new AMD Rig with in 42-43k(in next month a i don't have a enough budget .Main Purpose of the Rig is Photoshop CS5,Premiere, After effects,Maya(rendering and VFX) etc, a casual gaming(FPS games)
Here is the config..


Processor AMD Phenom II X6 1055T 2.8 ghz-10500/10000
Motherboard MSI GA-890GX- 7200
Ram G.Skill RIPJAWS 2*2GB 1333mhz -6300
Graphics Card MSI 5770 TWin Forz Edition 1 GB
HDD Western Digital Caviar Blue 500 G.B-2050
Cabinet NZXT Gamma Cabinet -2600
DVD RW LG DVD writer -1050
SMPS Corsair VX450W-3900

Price is from SMC International(By Mr. Gurmeet), I know the NZXt Gamma is overpriced by them( they told 2400 to rahul and 2600 to me :shock:). well now i will write a e-mail to their sale dept. for the inquiry for the same and check the price variation.

Plz comment ...

Processor: already chosen.
Motherboard: get a cheaper motherboard. maybe 880G or try 870X chipset. or maybe 790GX based.
Ram: get value ram.
Hard Disk: already chosen.
Graphics Card: HAWX?
Optical Drives: LG GH22NS50 @ 1.1k
PSU: already chosen.
Cabinet: get something else. 2.4-2.6k for that cabby too high.
 
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Hsakarp_kahtap

Hsakarp_kahtap

CG Artist++
Processor: already chosen.
Motherboard: get a cheaper motherboard. maybe 880G or try 870X chipset. or maybe 790GX based.
Ram: get value ram.
Hard Disk: already chosen.
Graphics Card: HAWX?
Optical Drives: LG GH22NS50 @ 1.1k
PSU: already chosen.
Cabinet: get something else. 2.4-2.6k for that cabby too high.

Processor: already chosen.
Motherboard: get a cheaper motherboard. maybe 880G or try 870X chipset. or maybe 790GX based.(890 is more future proof isn't it)
Ram: get value ram.(well i need it when i will render in maya , ripjayws cost 6300 while valuable kingston ram is for 5800 only 500 difference
Hard Disk: already chosen.
Graphics Card: HAWX?9 its more feture proof as compare to 5670 ( as its refresh rate( refresh rate is something ike FPS in games , when we rotate a Object in maya or Max how many time the application refresh it thats a refesh rateof a GPU) is also good- suggest by facilty)
Optical Drives: LG GH22NS50 @ 1.1k
PSU: already chosen.
Cabinet: get something else. 2.4-2.6k for that cabby too high( 2.2 is online Price + courier charge Rs.350, total = 2550 only Rs. 50 Difference)
 

coderunknown

Retired Forum Mod
than good to go. moreover Twin Frozer II is the name of heatsink + fan system used by MSI on their performance cards like HD5870 Lightning. not the card itself.

not anything like futureproof. both 7series as well as 8 series are AM3. only you'll get Sata 3 & faster ALink (ver.3) (northbridge-southbridge connection). nothing more. try get 870X & save 1-2k. i don't think 790Gx & 890GX got huge price difference. so get 890GX if unable find 870X (its basically a 890Gx without IGP & no crossfire).
 
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Hsakarp_kahtap

Hsakarp_kahtap

CG Artist++
than good to go. moreover Twin Frozer II is the name of heatsink + fan system used by MSI on their performance cards like HD5870 Lightning. not the card itself.

not anything like futureproof. both 7series as well as 8 series are AM3. only you'll get Sata 3 & faster ALink (ver.3) (northbridge-southbridge connection). nothing more. try get 870X & save 1-2k. i don't think 790Gx & 890GX got huge price difference. so get 890GX if unable find 870X (its basically a 890Gx without IGP & no crossfire).

well Sam bhai i know Twin forz is the heat sink with dual fan, but FY Iwhen we render somthing in maya or what app which i gonna use in future , the gpu generates more heat as compare to gaming(depends of games or object which we render) so i wil be better if i get twin forz because its only around .5 to 1k more then ordinary 5770.I could find 870X there(SMC).Any way thanks for your suggestions ..more suggestions are welcomed.
 

ajai5777

Youngling
If you want to crossfire in future, the selected board is best.If you want to avoid IGP,Crossfire etc to reduce the cost, go for

ASUS M4A87TD/USB3 @ 6k
No IGP,No crossfire with all other features.
 

mavihs

Techie By Heart
Hi Friends I am planning to buy a new AMD Rig with in 42-43k
strech it a little more & you get a nice config!
Main Purpose of the Rig is Photoshop CS5,Premiere, After effects,Maya(rendering and VFX) etc,
your learning or for profesional use?
a casual gaming(FPS games)
COD or CS?

Graphics Card MSI 5770 TWin Forz Edition 1 GB
for rendering, you'l be better off with FirePro but your gaming will take a hit!
 
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Hsakarp_kahtap

Hsakarp_kahtap

CG Artist++
If you want to crossfire in future, the selected board is best.If you want to avoid IGP,Crossfire etc to reduce the cost, go for

ASUS M4A87TD/USB3 @ 6k
No IGP,No crossfire with all other features.
Well I think i will go for crossfire in future (may be in next year).

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strech it a little more & you get a nice config!
Maximum Strech 2-3 k
your learning or for profesional use?
Still learning..working on maya basics.
COD or CS?


for rendering, you'l be better off with FirePro but your gaming will take a hit
I know nvidia quadrofx and ati firepro is far better for rendering but our facilty suggest go for pro cads if u have budget Rs.25000 or more(Mid range Pro cards) becuase the entry level profesional cards a just for name their Performance is not good it better to get a gaming card for Rs.10000 then a enrty level pro cards..

One more question I have in my mind will Cosair Vx 550 will sufficent for crossfire 2*5770, or i have to get a more powerful PSU.
 

ajai5777

Youngling
Stick to the MSI board first mentioned.Its got x8-x8 crossfire.Its decent for future.
Corsair vx 550 can handle 2X 5770
 

coderunknown

Retired Forum Mod
Corsair vx 550 can handle 2X 5770

can? can't. it'll be like pulling last .01W of power out of that PSU. considering 2XHD4890 somehow running on asigh's rig, i'll never suggest going for crossfire on a VX550. even if its powerful & may handle, better get a PSU that certified to handle two baby monsters.
 

ajai5777

Youngling
I think it can. Because 2X5770 consumes less than 250W in max load.Then you calculate the total requirement.

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nope. you'll need TX650W or more depending on rest of config. minimum is TX650.

Now I agree Sam.vx 550 is a close call.TX650W will be sufficient.
 

coderunknown

Retired Forum Mod
I think it can. Because 2X5770 consumes less than 250W in max load.Then you calculate the total requirement.

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Now I agree Sam.vx 550 is a close call.TX650W will be sufficient.

yes VX550W will support but why risk it? its like that. Crossfire isn't a joke. 2 HD5770 extracting juice out of a PSU. here some even suggested a VX550 for supporting HD5770 (i not sure what made them suggest so much). X6 @ 3Ghz + ATX mobo + 2XHD5770 + blah blah blah =/= VX550W :mrgreen: :arrow: TX650W
 
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Hsakarp_kahtap

Hsakarp_kahtap

CG Artist++
well thanks sam and ajai5777 for your replies, right nw i don't have a budget for tx650 so i will buy vx 450 for now nd buy tx 650 when i will buy another 5770 .
 

pulsar_swift

Youngling
ok. mobo stick to GB or MSI. No ASUS. RAM is important if you plan to overclock in the future, so you can go ahead with the rip-jaws
 

The Sorcerer

oh wow...Xenforo!!!
^^ If you choose 1600mhz rams, just keep in mind that you will have to set the ram frequency to 1600mhz manually or else it will detect the ram @ 1333mhz. Go for the ripjaws. There's not much difference between 7 and the 8 series AMD chipsets as far as performance goes, just features, pcie slot and minor changes.

For the record, vx550 can support 5770 on crossfire easily. Certification is nothing more than a badge which meets the specification of a body/organisation/company that gives the sticker. The specification of the body/organisation/company does not always mean that its the best specs that one will receive. If you read the 80 plus testing methodology and the operational temps they test the psu to give the sticker, even an obsolete cm 600 extreme qualifies for the sticker on papers with flying colours.

Asus? Avoid. MSI? Mediocre but does the job. Biostar? Dirt cheap alternate-but personally, prevent boards which have solid caps for the CPU and rest use electrolytic caps. Gigabyte? Preferred but comes with a premium.
 

coderunknown

Retired Forum Mod
There's not much difference between 7 and the 8 series AMD chipsets as far as performance goes, just features, pcie slot and minor changes.

depends on that particular chipset actually. IGP chipsets are more OC'ble. ALink III been introduced @ all chipsets. PCI lanes been increased in the flagship chipset 890FX. USB 2.0 has increased. Sata III (if Southbridge is SB850). manufacturing process has shrunk. that all i think.

For the record, vx550 can support 5770 on crossfire easily. Certification is nothing more than a badge which meets the specification of a body/organisation/company that gives the sticker. The specification of the body/organisation/company does not always mean that its the best specs that one will receive. If you read the 80 plus testing methodology and the operational temps they test the psu to give the sticker, even an obsolete cm 600 extreme qualifies for the sticker on papers with flying colours.

i already told VX550W will support but with a cabinet full of power hungry goodies, better stick to a better one.

Asus? Avoid. MSI? Mediocre but does the job. Biostar? Dirt cheap alternate-but personally, prevent boards which have solid caps for the CPU and rest use electrolytic caps. Gigabyte? Preferred but comes with a premium.

has the problem with Asus continues in 8series too? buggy. for MSI, should mention the word "value". Biostar entrylevel ones only got that. rest of the lineup costing 5k+ have all solid caps. but for that price better stick to MSI.
 

pulsar_swift

Youngling
So GB is the preffered mobo. Hhm. When i purchased my PC no one had GB :(. In Pune only ASUS was available.

One clarification on BIOSTAR. Every one seems to be a fan of BIO T785HD-G3 mobo, is it not good ? I mean does fall under the category "boards which have solid caps for the CPU and rest use electrolytic caps" ?

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My personal experience with ASUS is that, when i was trouble shooting my PC for high fan speed and other related warning messages,every one was suggesting check there should be some option for warning messages in the BIOS.
ASUS BIOS didnt have any such option. I was thouroughly disappointed with the BIOS apart from that no other issues
 
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