Movies Discussion Thread V1: Ratings and Opinions

rhitwick

Democracy is a myth
Was watching a movie "The Truth about cats and dogs" on "RomedyNow" right now.
Seems a sweet love-story. Would watch it full some-day.

No tears for the dead 6/10

A known movie on a known territory. Could easily be made into a bollywood movie.
One time watch.
 

ashs1

Padawan
Nightcrawler- 8.5/10
Very interesting movie.. Jake Gyllenhaal really outdid himself.. Fantastic acting..the plot of the movie was also a bit different, hence found it interesting.. The pace of the movie is nice.. Definitely watchable!!
 

srkmish

Ambassador of Buzz
Nightcrawler is one of the best movies of last year. I was really scared by Jake at times. John wick, on the other hand, was a disappointment. I am surprised by the hype. It is a good masala action movie no doubt, but the praise stops there.
 

Anorion

Sith Lord
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Lana Wachowski (Matrix, Speed Racer, Cloud Atlas) was asked a question on action sequences... and this is what she said
We care a lot about marrying the emotional content and the story content into our action sequences... I have a strange fetish for Bollywood films. I like the way that these kinetic dance numbers serve as metaphors for people falling in love.

whole interview here How The Wachowskis Tried To Shoot "The Most Beautiful Chase Ever Filmed"
 

Vyom

The Power of x480
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Lana Wachowski (Matrix, Speed Racer, Cloud Atlas) was asked a question on action sequences... and this is what she said
We care a lot about marrying the emotional content and the story content into our action sequences... I have a strange fetish for Bollywood films. I like the way that these kinetic dance numbers serve as metaphors for people falling in love.

That is some appreciation, and I seem to complement her thoughts. That maybe the reason for why Wachowski's movies looks different than your other average Hollywood. Cloud Atlas also had this distinctive style and felt refreshing. (Also confusing that their other movies are).

Complete review you linked was an interesting read.

Speed Racer, which I watched a couple of years ago was also a creation of Waschowski. And despite the poor reception it got on box office (and low rating on IMDb), I think they did a remarkable job in what they set out to do, that is to remake a classic Anime from the 70's. I felt only they could have done it with such Style.

Really waiting to watch Jupiter Ascending possibly day after tomorrow.
 

rhitwick

Democracy is a myth
Baby 6/10

If you can ignore your baggage of having watched many movie, this can be a good watch.
If you do not allow yourself thinking anything or cultivating anything that the film says, it can be a good watch.

But, you most probably won't be able to do that and then you would realize
1. The villains could not do any villainy in the movie. The whole movie was about 'BABY' and they took all screentime.
2. People did a lot of walking and you had to see them walking, like always.
3. In a realistic movie the car stopped working at the very point so that tention could build up.
4. Who was Maulana, how crucial was he, why he was so impotant to India...you weren't told. Thus his capturing scene failed to evoke any 'achievement' emotion in you.
5. Maulana was shown 'in slow motion' in Al-Dera hotel with Bilal. The way it was shown, seemed it should be some 'shocking' revelation to audience. Again, it made no impact, Maulana was found with Bilal...so? Whom-else would he found? baba-Ramdev?!!! (though should have created more shock in this case)
6. An annoying housewife who keeps on ranting "Marna mat"!!! Recall your memories of the girl from Kaliyug "Mitti me gadoge kaya?" Ughhhhh
7. And, you just fcking leave a car at the very shore of sea at a desert, why don't u ****ing push it into water then? Why?
8. The detective catches their game well in time but decides to let 'em go. Why?

Anyway, only things I liked are : pace of the movie and the strong female character. The girl really fought which is rare in hindi movies. Generally even if a girl belong to police a 'man' always helps her. Neeraj Pandey broke this myth here.
 
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Anorion

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^
Yep, the strong female char scene had the whole audience cheering.
Lol yep, even I thought the car was going to be driven into the water. Maulana was the guy who incited all of the others to do these things, the guy who got Bilal out. But yes, they could have elaborated that bit more. The detective lets them go because it shows that even for Saudi Arabia, the terrorists are "unwanted guests", not the agents. I liked that, but figured it out when the detective said the unwanted guests line itself.
 

Gen.Libeb

Padawan
Gattaca - 7.8/10 - I'm gonna say this one is a must watch.

some other movies I watched recently

Vanilla Sky - 7.2/10
X Men - First Class - 6.5/10 quite enjoyable
X Men - DOFP - well I didn't really like this one.
 

BlueBee

Broken In
Gone Girl - 8/10

Amazing plot and performance. Finscher did a great job. I'd have rated it 10 but the ending was disappointing to a otherwise solid movie.
 

Faun

Wahahaha~!
Staff member
Take Care of My Cat - 8/10. Coming of age movie about 5 girl friends. I find the whole movie like a dream in a distant reality and yet nothing seemed artificial at all. Watch it if you like movies which age well with time. There is a name for these kind, the classics.

They got good underground music scene too
[YOUTUBE]PVwf2DXS5Ys[/YOUTUBE]
 

Vyom

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^^ I would probably watch just for the "cat" part.

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Finally was able to watch Predestination on Friday night. And the movie was every bit I was expecting. I started to draft this post, but it took me a day.

Maybe the cause of my fixation with Time Travel and having been read a lot about Time Paradoxes, I understood the "main plot" in one shot. Hell, I would even say that the movie felt a little slow even if it was clocked around 90 min, for what was it worth. But the reason why I put "main plot" in quotes is that while the plot is crystal clear in my mind, to be able to write this post, I watched it again just so to note more details that I may have missed the first time.

Predestination is a movie that will be a cult classic for those who want to study about "Predestination paradox", "Novikov self-consistency principle" and "Bootstrap paradox".

The events in the movie have no origin, no middle and no end in terms of causality. But instead is filled with loops that have to be followed in the order it is to be performed. The girl is dropped to an orphanage, raised to become a women, had a sex change into a man, time travels into the past, falls in love with his girl version, gives birth to a baby girl, and then turns into someone who becomes totally unrecognisable, who then takes the baby girl back to the orphanage, there by closing one of the loops the movie had. But he movie have so many such loops that it easily gets viewers confused.

Here I am wondering how the hell writers manages to write such a plot. If we write the movie chronologically of how she grew up, the involvement of her future self makes it complex. If we try to write about it in chronologically of Time it will be more challenging since causality will be very difficult to explain. Hence for me to be able to decipher all the loops I will need some terminology to setup.

A = Jane - The baby girl.
B = Jane - The women
C = John - After sex change, Jane becomes a man.
D = Ethan - When John's face is burned he becomes Ethan.
E = Old Ethan - When Ethan becomes the Fizzle bomber.
R = Robertson, the person representing SpaceCorp

1. The film starts in 2-Mar-1970, with C. When he's at the location of the bomb trying to defuse it. But E tries to shoot C. (6 shots are fired from both sides in total). C while defusing the bomb burns gets his face burnt in the process. D comes into picture here and helps C escape the scene by sliding the time machine to him. C escapes to 0900, 21-Feb-1992.

2. In the next shot we see D (who have just transformed from C) in the medical room. (Btw, here he says, "I doubt my own mother will recognize me", which is foreshadowing the event when D meets A and B :D)

3. D starts with a job at the bar as a bartender (in unknown time). This is where C arrives in the bar and D was waiting for him. It is also here where C tells D his life till now. (Btw, at this point D tells him the joke about, "What comes first, the chicken or the egg?", again foreshadowing the story).

C narrates D his story. And following events occur:

4. D drops A to the doorstep of an orphanage (0945, 13-Sep-1945).
5. A grows up into a girl. And she is confused about her gender since she knows there is something wrong about her. We will know soon what that is. She also wanted that when she would have a child, the child would have both a father and a mother, and so she vowed to be a virgin.
6. A grows up to B and is invited by R to join some kind of space program. (which we later comes to know that is actually not a space program but a way to recruit people who can travel in time).
7. But here B was rejected from the program since R found out that she had a two full set of organs: Male and Female. (We would know why later).
8. B then stumbles with C and since C is just a male version of B, C is captivated by her own beauty.
9. B gets pregnant from C.
10. C left B letting her sit on a park bench. (24-Jun-1963)
11. R shows up at B's residence but founds out that she was pregnant, and again rejects B for SpaceCorp.
12. B comes to know about her weird body structure.
13. B gave birth to A, but someone steals the baby. (Later we come to know it was D).
14. And now, after some 3 major operations and many months later, B changes to C.
15. C now have a hatred for the one who ruined her life by making her pregnant.
16. C tried again to get enlist into SpaceCorp, but he was unsuccessfully.
17. C came to New York and started working as a chef but then she came up with the idea to publish articles under the pen name "The Unmarried Mother". Reason that C was first a women, made her able to write so good with "women's angle".

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18. D now opens up and says C that he can get him to meet the man who ruined her life, and "guarantee's that he would get away with it". (It is here that he asks "what if I am Fizzle Bomber, then proceeds to ask C if he's a Fizzle Bomber, foreshadowing that Both are infact the Fizzle Bomber).

19. D time travels with C and brings him to 1705, 3-Apr-1963, gives him money and a gun and asks him to change clothes.
20. D also tells C to make the conversation to this time period, to its absolute minimum.
21. C then stumbles with B and realizes that it was himself who she met with in 1963. [Connected to point 8]
22. D goes to 1970 (0845, 2-Mar-1970), to stop E, the Fizzle Bomber. [Connected to point 1]
23. C is also there trying to defuse the bomb which E planted and while he tries to do it, he burns his face, (who then converts to D). (Exactly 6 shots are fired here, just like before). [Connected to point 1]
24. D travels to 2-Mar-1964, the time when B gives birth to A. [Connected to point 13]
25. D steals A, the baby, and take her to start of the story (0945, 13-Sep-1945) and drops A to the doorstep of an orphanage. [Connected to point 4]
26. D travels to 24-Jun-1963 when C is talking with B sitting on a park's bench. D tells C that he would have to leave B. [Connected to point 10]
27. D takes him to 12-Aug-1985 and leaves him with the Tape Recorder where he have recorded instructions throughout his journey which would help C perform his work.
28. D would not retire and he wants to do that by going to 1975. R tells D that after he reaches to 1975, his field kit (time machine) would get decommission. D then travels to 1200, 7-Jan-1975 (date near to the blast by Fizzle Bomber) in preparation of his retirement.
29. The Time machine though, doesn't get decommission depicting that he have a fully working time machine at it's disposable.
30. D researches a lot on locating E, the Fizzle bomber and traces him in a Laundromat.
31. D recognizes E that he is "himself" but now aged.
32. E starts the conversation by saying "he missed D".
33. E then tells D that he is not actually a Fizzle Bomber, but he have actually saved many lives using the Time Machine.
34. But all the persuasion proves futile, and D kills E.

35. The movie ends with a montage of all the phases of the protagonist's life from, A -> B -> C -> D -> E.
36. In the very last shot before credits roll, D says "he misses C" like he mentioned before (or after) when he becomes E and meets D in Laundromat. [Connected to point 32]

Finally, taking into account all that that happened in the movie, here's the actual timeline chronology:
13-Sep-1945 - Assumed birthdate of Jane (as per city records).
03-Apr-1963 - Ethan brings John to past in order for him to kill "the person who ruined his life")
24-Jun-1963 - When John leaves Jane on the park bench.
02-Mar-1964 - Real birthdate of Jane (as per the person's chronology).
02-Mar-1970 - Old Ethan plants bomb, John tries to defuse the bomb and Ethan tries to kill Old Ethan.
07-Jan-1975 - The date Ethan chooses to get retire
March-1975 - The Main Bomb that the Fizzle Bomber manages to blast in New York.
xx-1981 - Invention of the Time Machine
12-Aug-1985 - Ethan have brought John to the 'facility' where he would get trained for 'the job'.
21-Feb-1992 - John travelled from 1970 after he gets his face burnt and becomes Ethan.

Incredible! Excellent movie. Breathtaking attention to details. Amazing execution of the paradoxes.
 

a_medico

Chillum Baba
Always (Korean) - Wonderful. Lacks the punch like most of the typical korean movies but still a must watch for korean movie fans.

X men Days of future whatever - First X men movie I didnt enjoy

Birdman - Typical hyped oscar listed movie. I wanted to like it but I couldnt. Good to see Edward Norton after long time but Oscar nomination? I am sure there are other deserving actors.

Architecture 101 - Watched it again. Just cant get over it. One of the best Korean movies for me.
 

rhitwick

Democracy is a myth
^^ I would probably watch just for the "cat" part.

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Finally was able to watch Predestination on Friday night. And the movie was every bit I was expecting. I started to draft this post, but it took me a day.

Maybe the cause of my fixation with Time Travel and having been read a lot about Time Paradoxes, I understood the "main plot" in one shot. Hell, I would even say that the movie felt a little slow even if it was clocked around 90 min, for what was it worth. But the reason why I put "main plot" in quotes is that while the plot is crystal clear in my mind, to be able to write this post, I watched it again just so to note more details that I may have missed the first time.

Predestination is a movie that will be a cult classic for those who want to study about "Predestination paradox", "Novikov self-consistency principle" and "Bootstrap paradox".

The events in the movie have no origin, no middle and no end in terms of causality. But instead is filled with loops that have to be followed in the order it is to be performed. The girl is dropped to an orphanage, raised to become a women, had a sex change into a man, time travels into the past, falls in love with his girl version, gives birth to a baby girl, and then turns into someone who becomes totally unrecognisable, who then takes the baby girl back to the orphanage, there by closing one of the loops the movie had. But he movie have so many such loops that it easily gets viewers confused.

Here I am wondering how the hell writers manages to write such a plot. If we write the movie chronologically of how she grew up, the involvement of her future self makes it complex. If we try to write about it in chronologically of Time it will be more challenging since causality will be very difficult to explain. Hence for me to be able to decipher all the loops I will need some terminology to setup.

A = Jane - The baby girl.
B = Jane - The women
C = John - After sex change, Jane becomes a man.
D = Ethan - When John's face is burned he becomes Ethan.
E = Old Ethan - When Ethan becomes the Fizzle bomber.
R = Robertson, the person representing SpaceCorp

1. The film starts in 2-Mar-1970, with C. When he's at the location of the bomb trying to defuse it. But E tries to shoot C. (6 shots are fired from both sides in total). C while defusing the bomb burns gets his face burnt in the process. D comes into picture here and helps C escape the scene by sliding the time machine to him. C escapes to 0900, 21-Feb-1992.

2. In the next shot we see D (who have just transformed from C) in the medical room. (Btw, here he says, "I doubt my own mother will recognize me", which is foreshadowing the event when D meets A and B :D)

3. D starts with a job at the bar as a bartender (in unknown time). This is where C arrives in the bar and D was waiting for him. It is also here where C tells D his life till now. (Btw, at this point D tells him the joke about, "What comes first, the chicken or the egg?", again foreshadowing the story).

C narrates D his story. And following events occur:

4. D drops A to the doorstep of an orphanage (0945, 13-Sep-1945).
5. A grows up into a girl. And she is confused about her gender since she knows there is something wrong about her. We will know soon what that is. She also wanted that when she would have a child, the child would have both a father and a mother, and so she vowed to be a virgin.
6. A grows up to B and is invited by R to join some kind of space program. (which we later comes to know that is actually not a space program but a way to recruit people who can travel in time).
7. But here B was rejected from the program since R found out that she had a two full set of organs: Male and Female. (We would know why later).
8. B then stumbles with C and since C is just a male version of B, C is captivated by her own beauty.
9. B gets pregnant from C.
10. C left B letting her sit on a park bench. (24-Jun-1963)
11. R shows up at B's residence but founds out that she was pregnant, and again rejects B for SpaceCorp.
12. B comes to know about her weird body structure.
13. B gave birth to A, but someone steals the baby. (Later we come to know it was D).
14. And now, after some 3 major operations and many months later, B changes to C.
15. C now have a hatred for the one who ruined her life by making her pregnant.
16. C tried again to get enlist into SpaceCorp, but he was unsuccessfully.
17. C came to New York and started working as a chef but then she came up with the idea to publish articles under the pen name "The Unmarried Mother". Reason that C was first a women, made her able to write so good with "women's angle".

.

18. D now opens up and says C that he can get him to meet the man who ruined her life, and "guarantee's that he would get away with it". (It is here that he asks "what if I am Fizzle Bomber, then proceeds to ask C if he's a Fizzle Bomber, foreshadowing that Both are infact the Fizzle Bomber).

19. D time travels with C and brings him to 1705, 3-Apr-1963, gives him money and a gun and asks him to change clothes.
20. D also tells C to make the conversation to this time period, to its absolute minimum.
21. C then stumbles with B and realizes that it was himself who she met with in 1963. [Connected to point 8]
22. D goes to 1970 (0845, 2-Mar-1970), to stop E, the Fizzle Bomber. [Connected to point 1]
23. C is also there trying to defuse the bomb which E planted and while he tries to do it, he burns his face, (who then converts to D). (Exactly 6 shots are fired here, just like before). [Connected to point 1]
24. D travels to 2-Mar-1964, the time when B gives birth to A. [Connected to point 13]
25. D steals A, the baby, and take her to start of the story (0945, 13-Sep-1945) and drops A to the doorstep of an orphanage. [Connected to point 4]
26. D travels to 24-Jun-1963 when C is talking with B sitting on a park's bench. D tells C that he would have to leave B. [Connected to point 10]
27. D takes him to 12-Aug-1985 and leaves him with the Tape Recorder where he have recorded instructions throughout his journey which would help C perform his work.
28. D would not retire and he wants to do that by going to 1975. R tells D that after he reaches to 1975, his field kit (time machine) would get decommission. D then travels to 1200, 7-Jan-1975 (date near to the blast by Fizzle Bomber) in preparation of his retirement.
29. The Time machine though, doesn't get decommission depicting that he have a fully working time machine at it's disposable.
30. D researches a lot on locating E, the Fizzle bomber and traces him in a Laundromat.
31. D recognizes E that he is "himself" but now aged.
32. E starts the conversation by saying "he missed D".
33. E then tells D that he is not actually a Fizzle Bomber, but he have actually saved many lives using the Time Machine.
34. But all the persuasion proves futile, and D kills E.

35. The movie ends with a montage of all the phases of the protagonist's life from, A -> B -> C -> D -> E.
36. In the very last shot before credits roll, D says "he misses C" like he mentioned before (or after) when he becomes E and meets D in Laundromat. [Connected to point 32]

Finally, taking into account all that that happened in the movie, here's the actual timeline chronology:
13-Sep-1945 - Assumed birthdate of Jane (as per city records).
03-Apr-1963 - Ethan brings John to past in order for him to kill "the person who ruined his life")
24-Jun-1963 - When John leaves Jane on the park bench.
02-Mar-1964 - Real birthdate of Jane (as per the person's chronology).
02-Mar-1970 - Old Ethan plants bomb, John tries to defuse the bomb and Ethan tries to kill Old Ethan.
07-Jan-1975 - The date Ethan chooses to get retire
March-1975 - The Main Bomb that the Fizzle Bomber manages to blast in New York.
xx-1981 - Invention of the Time Machine
12-Aug-1985 - Ethan have brought John to the 'facility' where he would get trained for 'the job'.
21-Feb-1992 - John travelled from 1970 after he gets his face burnt and becomes Ethan.

Incredible! Excellent movie. Breathtaking attention to details. Amazing execution of the paradoxes.

This shows how much the movie moved you and a definite sign of a good movie.
Good post, man! Keep it up.
 
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