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desiibond

Bond, Desi Bond!
yes. but the performance difference between HD4850 and HD4870 is enormous. Also you can't expect they to put similar price just because it has familiar model number. Right now, HD5850 is going to beat HD4890 and it will be released at a higher price point that HD4890's, which does make sense.

After all, they do have to get some good returns for the R&D right?
 

spikygv

Wise Old Owl
i agree. But somehow i get the feeling that the reason for the price point being high is nvidia doesnt have an answer for 58xx yet.
 

Krow

Crowman
^Yes, that is precisely why I want AMD CPU's to sell more and in general be more competitive to Intel in the mainstream market. It leads to price wars and we are happy as consumers. :)
 

desiibond

Bond, Desi Bond!
Snapshots of Sapphire Radeon HD5850 and HD5870:

*img132.imageshack.us/img132/916/10aw.th.jpg

*img33.imageshack.us/img33/9861/10bq.th.jpg
 

desiibond

Bond, Desi Bond!
they said something about stream accelereation but that takes time as all game developers are concentrating of PhysX (nvidia's)
 
i agree. But somehow i get the feeling that the reason for the price point being high is nvidia doesnt have an answer for 58xx yet.
Actually many say it could turn out to be the other way around. Theoritically (read: as per calculated and semi-leaked benchmarks) GT300 is much stronger in its high end parts than HD4870. What remains to be seen if AMD will still have the pricing advantage or not.
 

spikygv

Wise Old Owl
@MetalheadGautham , i certainly hope so. nvidia has lost a lot in gtx260 and gtx280. Competition is always good for us.
 

desiibond

Bond, Desi Bond!
reviews are oyt guys. hd5870 is secind only to gtx295, add to that uktra low power consumption and amd has a winner at hand.
 

desiibond

Bond, Desi Bond!
here is the review roundup (conclusions):

Hot Hardware:

*hothardware.com/Articles/AMD-ATI-Radeon-HD-5870-Unquestionably-Number-One/

The new Radeon HD 5870 proved to be an excellent performer throughout our entire battery of tests. In comparison to other single-GPU powered cards, the Radeon HD 5870 is clearly and unquestionably the most powerful released to date. The Radeon HD 4890 and GeForce GTX 285 never really came close to competing with the Radeon HD 5870, regardless of the benchmark or game, or resolution tested.

We've been hearing rumblings about the Radeon HD 5800 series for quite some time. They are here now. And they are good. The Radeon HD 5870 we've evaluated here offered excellent performance that decimated any other singe GPU with top notch image quality. It also has the most extensive feature set of any other GPU, with support for ATI Eyefinity, an enhanced UVD 2 engine, and support for DirectX 11. And it is arriving at a fair price point--should street prices jibe with AMD's claimed MSRPs, of course. All things considered, we'd have to declare the arrival of the ATI Radeon HD 5800 series unequivocal success.

Editor's choice given.

AnandTech:

*www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3643

Wrapping things up, for those of you who were expecting the 5870 to shake things up, the 5870 is certainly going to do that. For those of you looking for the above and a repeat of the RV770/GT200 launch where prices will go in to a free fall, you’re going to come away disappointed. That task will fall upon the 5850, and we’re looking forward to reviewing it as soon as we can.

At the end of the day, with its impressive performance and next-generation feature set, the Radeon HD 5870 kicks off the DirectX 11 generation with a bang and manages to take home the single-GPU performance crown in the process. It’s without a doubt the high-end card to get

Driver Heaven:

*www.driverheaven.net/reviews.php?reviewid=842

ATI have developed a card which is cutting edge, performs better than the last generation and has plenty of potential. They have also brought this to market first but equally so this may well count against them as there is no ‘must have’ reason to upgrade at this time and plenty of reasons for the savvy consumer to wait a few months and see how the market, and pricing develop. By then, we will hopefully have DX11 games to analyse and enjoy.

Read more: *www.driverheaven.net/reviews.php?reviewid=842&pageid=21#ixzz0Rwe0O7Qs


rating of 9/10

HardOp:

*www.hardocp.com/article/2009/09/22/amds_ati_radeon_hd_5870_video_card_review

To us, it sounds like AMD is serious about being the leader in new gaming technology, at least on the GPU side of things. AMD has been driving forth the point that the ATI Radeon HD 5870 is a gamers’ video card; it makes no excuses for that. AMD’s GPU CTO, Eric Demers told us that this GPU’s primary utility is to accelerate 3D PC games and bring an enjoyable gameplay experience to the hardware and enthusiast gaming communities. We came away from the AMD event in Alameda, CA with the clear impression that this video card was designed with the primary goal being to play games, simple as that.

Editor's Choice Gold award given

Hexus:

*www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=20289&page=1

Our overall feeling is that AMD's done a pretty fine job with the high-end Radeon 5-series cards. The architecture is evolutionary rather than revolutionary, and the lack of a 'wow factor' is squarely down to the availability of inelegant, hotter, noisier, and thirstier previous-generation dual-GPU cards from both NVIDIA and AMD.

Given a direct choice, however, we'd have the HD 5870 over the other two cards every day of the week: it's a fuller-featured single-GPU solution that's very strong in every area, and not just apt at producing high frame-rates.

Bottom line: AMD's ATI Radeon HD 5870 and HD 5850 represent solid advances in GPU technology. NVIDIA will need to bring excellence to every facet if it's to a launch a better-thought-out series of high-end GPU.

rating: 83% and gaming recommended

Tech Report:

*www.techreport.com/articles.x/17618

Well, Sherlock, what do you expect me to say? AMD has succeeded in delivering the first DirectX 11 GPU by some number of months, perhaps more than just a few, depending on how quickly Nvidia can get its DX11 part to market. AMD has also managed to double its graphics and compute performance outright from one generation to the next, while ratcheting up image quality at the same time. The Radeon HD 5870 is the fastest GPU on the planet, with the best visual output, and the most compelling set of features. Yet it's still a mid-sized chip by GPU standards. As a result, the 5870's power draw, noise levels, and GPU temperatures are all admirably low. My one gripe: I wish the board wasn't quite so long, because it may face clearance issues in some enclosures.

PCPerspective:

*www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=783&type=expert

The new AMD Radeon HD 5870 is the fastest single-GPU graphics card you can purchase today and will likely remain that way through at least the end of the year. The new Evergreen core, with its 1600 shader processors and improved texturing power, is able to best the GT200 core that was dominating the HD 4800-series cards in every aspect except efficiency. Add to that mix support for DirectX 11 gaming and compute applications with new features like Eyefinity and you have all the makings of a fantastic product launch that will dominate the GPU market for months. The one caveat is that AMD has left the GTX 285 still as a relevant graphics card option and if NVIDIA lowers prices as it is expected to do, gamers not keen on DX11 or multi-monitor gaming could be convinced to sway away from AMD's new offering.

AMD is obviously confident in the products appeal to consumers with BOTH performance and features and is hoping that it adds up to better profitability for their new flagship offering. For my money, the Radeon HD 5870 is the best graphics card you can purchase; but for others the math might not add up.

Gold Award Given

TechSpot:

*www.techspot.com/review/198-ati-radeon-hd-5870-review/

The new Radeon HD 5870 is in a very different position, though. This time around it looks like AMD is not going to be forced into a pricing war as easily -- at least not yet anyway. So for now the HD 5870 makes its debut with an MSRP of $380, while the Radeon HD 5850 is also arriving today priced at around $260.
This makes the Radeon HD 5870 roughly $120 cheaper than today's undisputable performance champ, the GeForce GTX 295. It also makes it almost twice as costly as the Radeon HD 4890, however, which begs the question: is the Radeon HD 5870 really that much faster? Today we finally get to find out, as we will be comparing AMD's latest and greatest against every single high-end graphics card released over the past year.

*www.techspot.com/news/36318-ati-radeon-hd-5870-review.html
 
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