Batman vs. Ironman

[cyborg47]

Frank miller's writings are really something. Superman Red Son was so so different. Have you read it?

Nope, too lazy to read comics, though I think I should read some. The last one I'd read was Superman Earth One.

+1
Also,if IronMan vs Bane, It would be Bane who would get his back broken from repulsor rays,and missiles,and all the awesome weapons in the IronMan suit
IronMan can destroy Bane while staying in the air all the time,something that Bat-Brain can't do
Face it,Bat-Fans IronMan can destroy all Batman villians in one sitting,Bats would struggle against one Whiplash(I don't kill ppl lol,imagine kung-fu against whiplash ) then Run off to the Bat-Manor and the Bat-cave,make a armored batsuit, and then beatup whiplash

I'll get this straight. Forget about direct confrontations. Bane would destroy Stark Tower without having Tony any idea of something like that, I mean, if an average scientist can place a machine on top of stark tower to open a portal(in the avengers, how dumb is that), imagine what a master strategist like Bane could do to the entire city. End of Story

 

[CommanderShawnzer]

Nope, too lazy to read comics, though I think I should read some. The last one I'd read was Superman Earth One.



I'll get this straight. Forget about direct confrontations. Bane would destroy Stark Tower without having Tony any idea of something like that, I mean, if an average scientist can place a machine on top of stark tower to open a portal(in the avengers, how dumb is that), imagine what a master strategist like Bane could do to the entire city. End of Story

Your Argument is Invalid.
(Mind-Controlled)Average scientist in question had Lauki and his Mind-Controlled? goons to back him up.
btw in the film.apart from Mr Stark and Ms Potts,who else live in the stark tower?
Oh and Both Stark and Potts weren't there in the Tower
And Stark using his previously Non-Exist Detective skills figured out that Lauki would chose the tallest possible structure(aka Stark Tower) for his wormhole machine.

 

[cyborg47]

Your Argument is Invalid.
Average scientist in question had Lauki and his Mind-Controlled? goons to back him up.
btw in the film.apart from Mr Stark and Ms Potts,who else live in the stark tower?

Doesn't matter if he's mind controlled, or not. The problem lies with Tony's lack of knowledge of the scientist's presence on the Tower even when he's got a smart AI like Jarvis integrated into the entire building, and what Jarvis do? let the scientist go on to the top of the building, place the machine, and use the free energy device that tony activates at the beginning of the film, and opens the portal. The smart AI is so smart, that it cuts off the connection only after the devices gets self sustained...just because the plot requires him to.

And Stark using his previously Non-Exist Detective skills figured out that Lauki would chose the tallest possible structure(aka Stark Tower) for his wormhole machine.

Like I said, Bane would destroy the entire city even before Tony realizes it

 

[CommanderShawnzer]

Doesn't matter if he's mind controlled, or not. The problem lies with Tony's lack of knowledge of the scientist's presence on the Tower even when he's got a smart AI like Jarvis integrated into the entire building, and what Jarvis do? let the scientist go on to the top of the building, place the machine, and use the free energy device that tony activates at the beginning of the film, and opens the portal. The smart AI is so smart, that it cuts off the connection only after the devices gets self sustained...just because the plot requires him to.



Like I said, Bane would destroy the entire city even before Tony realizes it

Lol no.Scientist used the Tesseract to power his wormhole device.
and the Tesseract was built (supposedly) by Sab-Ka-Baap

 

[cyborg47]

Lol no.Scientist used the Tesseract to power his wormhole device.

Watch the movie again

Jarvis - "Sir, I turned off the arc reactor...the device is already self sustained."

why couldn't he turn it off before the device went self sustained? of course, the aliens have to come through the portal, fight the avengers, kill people, lose, blah blah...

 

[hars1988]

k tony was not there in starktower when loki and co used it,u got point

but what did batman did when catwomen is wandering in his own house and even she kicked his ...

booked tickets for 10pm show today,am waiting...........

 

[Flash]

k tony was not there in starktower when loki and co used it,u got point

but what did batman did when catwomen is wandering in his own house and even she kicked his ...

booked tickets for 10pm show today,am waiting...........

Every (Super) hero has a weakness to be exploited by others.
If not, then whom he/she will fight?

 

[cyborg47]

k tony was not there in starktower when loki and co used it,u got point

but what did batman did when catwomen is wandering in his own house and even she kicked his ...

booked tickets for 10pm show today,am waiting...........

Yeah right. Genius

 

[Flash]

In terms of "doing things simply", none can bean IM.
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Ironman: Jarvis. Lock onto target. Fire up the missile.
Jarvis : As your wish, sir

(A 100-storey building with baddies, gone poof!!)
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[CommanderShawnzer]

In terms of "doing things simply", none can bean IM.
**************************************

Ironman: Jarvis. Lock onto target. Fire up the missile.
Jarvis : As your wish, sir

(A 100-storey building with baddies, gone poof!!)
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Imagine bats doing the same thing........

Spoiler

You could make another Batman : Arkham xyz game

I dont get the whole Batman vs IronMan thing.
apart from the "Billionare,Playboy,Philantrophist" thing,both of them aren't alike even ONE BIT
so you can't compare right? unless you like comparing Mangoes and Oranges.

Batman also has the strange power of making his GF look like sh!t from "cute 'n' hot" if she falls in love with a random soon-to-be villain

 

[SaiyanGoku]

Like I said, Bane would destroy the entire city even before Tony realizes it

he won't, because Tony will use Jarvis to locate each and every bomb and then use some global bomb diffusing EMP. Batbrain was so smart that he coudn't locate the bomb himself and couldn't figure out that Bane was hiding beneath Wayne Industries.

 

[cyborg47]

he won't, because Tony will use Jarvis to locate each and every bomb and then use some global bomb diffusing EMP.

Yeah, just like this right?

post 185 *www.thinkdigit.com/forum/fight-club/172555-batman-vs-ironman-7.html#post1891894

 

[Jripper]

Oh jeez another batman vs ironman thread.

This is kind of a pointless thread since their operating styles are different. Iron man is more of a front lines explosive war machine while bats is more of a tactician and hands on combat specialist. Its unfair to compare them. And with the particular skill sets they have,its also unfair to compare them. Yes ironman looks to be the clear winner on paper(atleast during a random encounter between the two). But then batman has been known to take on worse and he has still won. It depends on the author. We can speculate all we want,it won't matter.

Iron man has been insanely buffed up in comics these days,with the extremis armor,bleeding edge armour,jarvis thought integration,etc etc which pretty much brings him close to invincible levels. And though people feel bats has been buffed up via the nolan trilogy as well,its far from the truth. While nolan's trilogy is an absolute epic,it loses a lot of potential by grounding the batman character in the so called realism. If that were not the case,there would have been so much more potential and headroom to operate in.

In any case,my pick amongst the two would be batman.
Reasons being:- The character has almost unparalleled history(apart from superman). One of the only two golden age superheroes.Far more complex character and has great mythos behind him. Is a multilayered character. Is a thinking character. Someone earlier said batman was boring. That has to be the most surprising thing I have ever heard. But then again,its my opinion. Batman as a character is multilayered. The mythos is batman are just way too interesting. An example would be grant morrison's run on batman. That has to be the most complex story arc that has been ever attempted on batman. He came back from the beginning of time for crissakes. -_- He survived,because thats what he does. He created a backup personality incase he was ever attacked on a psychological level(refer:- batman of zur-en-arrh).Tower of babel is another example where batman's strategies are used to trick the entire JLA.

Batman is not about head on conflict and assault on an enemy. Its about preparation. And given preparation time,batman can beat anyone. Iron man maybe able to beat a character in a random encounter,repulsor beam-poof.enemy gone. But anyone can create a character who is a lovechild of superman and wolverine. That is not difficult. To me a hero is someone who faces improbable odds,has limitations and embraces them,learns from his mistakes,prepares and then proves victorious. That,to me,is a far more compelling and appealing hero. It goes deeper than being an all action superhero,it goes down to a more integral and personal level.
So yeah,batman for me.

 

[cyborg47]

@Jripper, Amen.

And yeah, The Tower of Babel for me, is possibly the most unique take on the JLA and Batman. The animated movie Doom was also based on the similar concept.

 

[Jripper]

^ Read morrison's run on batman It will blow your mind. Adds so many layers to the character. Absolute epic.

 

[Bhargav Simha]

Ever heard of Batman Year one comics? or The Dark Knight Returns? Do some research for yourself, there are tons and tons of Batman Comics out there that portrayed him as a dark knight, which have been the definitive versions of Batman and that's exactly what Batman Begins followed.



and hey genius! There's somebody called Lucius Fox, and he's been there in the comics since 1979.

As for who wins against who, everybody is right in their own way, I mean, the comic writers are people like us after all. Write yourself a story of Batman beating IM or vice versa
As for me, I'm a big time Batman fan, since the Animated series on CN. I find Stark much cooler and humorous, but quickly get boring, not such a complex character. And Bruce Wayne...he's a fcking psychopath!

Lol Batman comics started in 1930's.... after 40 years suddenly fox appears to give bruce every gadget he wants (inspired by james bond?!!)... Some one said Stark is nothing without his suit.... atleast stark designed it himself.... You have just helped my point... batman has been given unlimited resources, without proper reason

 

[Jripper]

Yes we all do what is beneficial to us. Perhaps batty realized that he could better utilize the time he spent making the gadgets on other things and handed it over to lucius. Its not like he can't make it himself. He just chooses to get it done by another trusted party while he invests his time elsewhere. There is a difference between can't and doesn't.
And also,could you please elaborate on the "without proper reason" part?

 

[cyborg47]

Lol Batman comics started in 1930's.... after 40 years suddenly fox appears to give bruce every gadget he wants (inspired by james bond?!!)... Some one said Stark is nothing without his suit.... atleast stark designed it himself.... You have just helped my point... batman has been given unlimited resources, without proper reason

You're trying too hard.
Understand that there's something called creative evolution. Literally every single fictional story in every genre does that. What's the point of creating any character if you want to be stuck with the original? Superman never had the power of flight in the original comics, and if the writers didn't take the creative freedom to add the flight, like ""oh no! original superman does not fly, we find this sudden love for superman, funny!"", we'd still have the same superman jumping high off the roof tops
Isn't that the whole point of comics? Every time a new writer/artist takes over, they reinvent it, and its a good thing for us. There's no 'be all end all' definitive version of of any fictional character. Nolan's Batman is just one of those interpretations, and he nailed it, it was true to the comics and he left his own mark on the mythos as well. There's no need for him to be a slave for the comics, they're just good source material.
And none of the comics have a direct continuity to each other since 1939. Every new series comics had its own origin story and ending. so your point is invalid!

 

[vickybat]

Exactly, things need to evolve for the better. Batman started as a detective comic series. But as the years passed, the writers evolved him into a dark and cold superhero that we know today.

Btw, i can conclude that marvel animated movies are nowhere near their DC counterparts. Watched "Ironman - Rise of the technovores". It was meh and completely outclassed by DC movies like Superman/Batman/JL. Will watch Superman- Unbound next. A new justice league movie is also coming up.

 

[CommanderShawnzer]

Exactly, things need to evolve for the better. Batman started as a detective comic series. But as the years passed, the writers evolved him into a dark and cold superhero that we know today.

Btw, i can conclude that marvel animated movies are nowhere near their DC counterparts. Watched "Ironman - Rise of the technovores". It was meh and completely outclassed by DC movies like Superman/Batman/JL. Will watch Superman- Unbound next. A new justice league movie is also coming up.

Live-Action? or animated based on JLU?