BJP vs Congress !!

Who will you vote in next LS elections

  • BJP

    Votes: 51 51.0%
  • Congress

    Votes: 34 34.0%
  • I will sit lame @ home..

    Votes: 15 15.0%

  • Total voters
    100
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You honestly think anybody else has the patients to go through the massive posts that you and I are making ??? :lol: kid yourself
Well I guess you think you hit home run with your last post ….. Let me shoot that thought down for your ….. here comes another big one





I don't understand where it calls for the "ethnic cleansing of muslims"? Telling the children of the real history where mughals destroyed scriptures, raped women, killed infidels etc, is all part of the history. Even Quran explains in "detail" of "how" "infidels" were killed and "why" they were killed. Perhaps its time you you do lil research in that field too. If reviving the true history is offensive for you then perhaps the whole Quran would be more offensive for you. Don't you agree?
Excuse me
Where have I said that its offensive to me ??
So what are you suggesting ?? we punish the modern day Indian muslims for what a foreign muslim ruler did hundreds of years ago ….. that’s the ideology RSS go by ……All muslims are evil because few of em were villains
The point of studying history is not to get angry over what somebody did 100s of years ago and then go about killing ppl quiet unconnected with the incident living in the present …..

And btw, from your statement it seems you consider "countries like US", which created terror in Vietnam (biological warfare), japan (first use of nuclear bomb), Iraq (false accusation of WMD) etc, as an authority which stands tall in giving out certificates of whose sane and whose hypocritical!!!??? Congratulations!
Congratulations to you :D …. You are very quick to jump to conclusions …… I meant no such thing
What I implied by my message is that India has been lecturing US about non-violence for a long time …. But when faced with a similar problem we find that we r no better than the US which is sad ……



Let peace be with Mahatma Gandhi. More material for your research ...
*www.sabha.info/history.html


I thought you were serious in a discussion. Perhaps, you should

* Let kasab go free. (after all death by court is also killing, its only the reason and side of morality that differentiates between a murder and justice by hanging).
* Perhaps you hould dance around with mosquitoes when they bite you and start practising non-violence

...have you ever thought about that ??
* I am against capital punishment
*You should look up the word “Humanity” lol


History is a subject which teaches about past. If thought in a little detail, it can also prove as a subject from which the mankind can learn from it so that mistakes are not repeated. Judging by those mistakes we learn ...

* Cast system has been distorted and blown out of proportion and now people are learning that the orginal cast system was by "karma" which is logical and analogous to the classes of "scientists, teachers, clercs etc"
* Islamists have tried to impose "sharia" whenever they were in majority. Talk about their secularity wherever they are in majority.
* Mughals destroyed temples, scriptures etc. So, IMO, this should be covered extensively so that the history does not repeat itself.
Wow now you are justifying castes based society ……… look what happened because ppl followed it …. India is divided left right and center .
->Do you know that Turkey is majority muslim and a secular country J …….. ofcourse u don’t
->So if Muslims impose Sharia …. Hindus should impose Hindutva ? …. Nice reasoning …..
->It is covered as much as its required …… do you, like RSS want to manufacture more Muslim atrocity ??
I don't think RSS is teaching them to "kill" muslims. If thats the case then ofcourse that should be dealt with. And btw, isn't blood lust developed if a person witnesses the slaughter of animals like goats since childhood? It seems you cannot identify how history can be useful and what is harmful. If it really irks some people like you, then perhaps they should stop expounding Babri drama, godhra etc which again were "reactions" and not "actions" and certainly not like the 1984 state sponsored sikh murders.
Killing animals for the table (eating) ….. is not slaughter …. That’s RSS propaganda …….
1.Humans are Omnivores
2.From ancient times (vedic times) a section of Indian Hindus ate Goat , Deer and also cow meat (like pointed previously in one of the threads in this forum)
3.Killing animals and Humans for no reason is slaughter ……. So both Babhri and Godhra were slaughters / genocide/ethnic cleansing …..


Sure, we are still to see 1984 riot accused and those accused are given clean chit. The statement doesn't end up with "are arrested", but with properly tried. We all know bt Afzal!

The people who were killed were victims of "typical riots", not "state sponsored" like the 1984 one. Weren't hindus killed in Gujarat? Perhaps you need to study nanavati report.
The reaction was worse than the actions ……. Instead of Govt arresting the culprits , they instigated a mob to attack Muslims who were uninvolved in the first incident …..


I think you are not reading the links I'm putting forward and just opining silly.
Nope I am reading …. Sometimes I forget to make a point
So you are just showing me a (one of) example ?? how many such muslims are in with BJP ? 1 , 2 3 ?? :lol: …. That guy joined BJP for power ….[ He was retired after all] ……. and Bjp wanted an image makeover as the article itself says

People need to praise and worship those who actually bled for their country and not the ones who did politics. No wonder ignorant INdians perceive Raul Vinci as their future and don't even know about the plight of the soldiers who are bleeding 24*7 on the borders. To make the matters worse our beloved UPA has took one step beyond. Our true heroes like Mohan Chand Sharma get disgrace and terrorists the sympathy of Human Rights activists? Petty politics and undermining of our true heroes.
What are you talking about ?? Sharma is a much decorated police officer and has won seven gallantry medals including a President of India's medal …… is this digrace to you ??

I still maintain that without we would not have freedom without those non-voilent freedom fighters …..



You know whats funny? Its your ignorance! Mahatma and nehru were both stupid. For their own political agendas they partitioned India. And now we are witnessing Kashmir issue, terrorism over it and what not? Did these Gandhi oligarchs think the Hindu-Muslim divide could not be contained? If yes, then perhaps we need better people than those who still think Nehru-Gandhi are our "models".
What did Gandhi and Nehru get from partitioning India ? …. Don’t make such random statements


First learn the difference between action and a reaction. Then learn the difference bet. "Protecting history" and "terrorism".


Here's more on UPA's "behaving" policies ...


*www.expressindia.com/news/fullstory.php?newsid=77972

Again, I fail to see anyone calling this move as "communal". Had it been hindus first, people would have roared calling it "communal".
Quoting from your own link

[FONT=&quot]“Last month, the Prime Minister favoured ‘fair share’ for minorities in government and private jobs as he spoke at the meeting of the National Commission for Minorities.”[/FONT]


* Sikhs getting slaughtered in thousand = A MISTAKE.
* Hindus getting killed in Kashmir = Political problem.
* Muslims getting killed by a few hundred = Holocaust.
* Poor protestors getting shot in WB under Left Govt = Misunderstanding.
* Talking about Hindus and Hinduism = Communal.
* Talking about Muslims and Islam = Secular.
* Kargil Attack = Government failure.
* Chinese invasion in 1962 = Unfortunate betrayal.
* Reservations in every school and college on caste lines = Secular.
* Reservations in Minority institutions = ?
Who needs them ? majority of good institutes are non minority ……
* Fake encounters in Gujarat [Sohrabuddin] = BJP Communalism.
* Fake encounters under Cong-NCP in Maharashtra [Khwaja Younus] = Police atrocity.
* Banning Parzania in Gujarat = Communal.
* Banning Da Vinci Code and Jo Bole So Nihaal = Secular.
* BJP freeing 3 terrorists to save 100 Indian hostages = Shameful
* Congress freeing 4 militants to save just a life of one Daughter of its minister in Kashmir [Rubina Sayed] Political dilemma = Natural Dilemma
* Attack on Parliament = BJP ineptitude.
* Not hanging Afzal Guru the mastermind despite Supreme Court orders = Humanity and Political dilemma.
* BJP questioning Islamic Terrorist Forces = Communal.
* Congress questioning Lord Ram existence = Clerical Error.
I do not subscribe to any of this ?? and neither do any of the people whos side I am taking (I am not talking about political parties ofcourse)

You make up (or pick it up from some propaganda site) something and want me to explain that ?? :lol:
 
Why did you even bother posting then? Couldn't you read my earlier posts? Perhaps u cud have left ur email id from the start. What a joke!
Dont act like a n00b .... leaving your email id in a public forum ???

How difficult is it for you to PM me your id

Long drawn "debates on IM"??? Do u even understand what a "debate" is? Perhaps u r glutton for a "chat". Did u really think I was having this "online forum conversation" just with you? Imagine Kapil Sibal tellin Arun Jaitley, "Hey we can talk bt 1984 sikh issue on IM". :D
lol like i said before nobody has the patience to go through our massive posts .... rofl

Install Linux :D (just kiddin).... & .... You should stop explaining yourself on useless things.
Dual booter
whatever

I'm pleased! Welcome back, reply to my unreplied post. :)
Aye Aye cap'n a big one is waiting for you :D


Yes, I'm sure it was becoz of congress. :D I would only like to ask, "how old are u?".

"BJP should have got us freedom"??????? Ah well,

Here's some timeline you should mug up to perform better in you school.
*www.bjp.org/content/view/436/289/

Now stop explaining urself and opining silly. :oops:
So Advani and AB Vajpaye and all those "young guns" in the RSS were born after the independence were they :lol: :lol: :lol:


BJP conviniently appeared only after the independence .........even though its founders were very much alive during the 1940s ... y did they not start it before ??

RSS was founded in 1925 well before the independence .... thought their efforts towards the freedom struggle is almost NIL


Do u know "anything" about the impact of the world wars on Britishers at the time of Indian Independence?
At the outbreak of World War II, the Indian army numbered 205,000 men. Later on during World War II the Indian Army would become the largest all-volunteer force in history, rising to over 2.5 million men in size. These forces included tank, artillery and airborne forces. In matters of administration, weapons, training, and equipment, the Indian Army had considerable independence; for example, prior to the war the Indian Army adopted the Vickers-Berthier (VB) light machine gun instead of the Bren gun of the British Army, while continuing to manufacture and issue the older SMLE No. 1 Mk III rifle during World War II, instead of the No.4 Mk I Lee-Enfield issued to British Army forces

and do you have any idea about Congress's role in limiting India's participation in the WWII role ;)
 

Faun

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Nope ........ If there were no Gandhi or Nehru we would not have any part of India ....... Do you honestly think that the disorganized rag tag Indian Guerrilla army struck fear in the hearts of British ..... the British had experience fighting much deadlier foes in other parts of the world ..... like the Irish Republican Army (IRA) .... among the many people they managed to assassinate , was the then Indian Viceroy Mountbatten .... were the indian Guerrilla disorganized as they were, half as effective ??

Gandhi and Nehru were not the only reason we got our independence. There were lot of people who worked out for our freedom (Outside India and Inside India).

In fact with Nehru came the dirty politics in India. Because of Gandhi we are suffering from terrorism created by Pakistan.

It were Hindu people whom he used for that purpose, obviously Hindus never wanted Pakistan but they had to concede to the will of Gandhi Ji.

The then Congress was the only reason Britain left India .......If Gandhi felt the need for the separation we should respect it .....if not then BJP should have got us our Freedom lol
I don't respect his need for separation. I regret his decision, first Pakistan then Bangladesh. Do you know how much hatred is there in Pakistan and Bangladesh for us ?

You know when you created a separate country for people of another faith then ultimately everyone cried for their own separate state.

It was a cascading failure.

so you automatically assume they are lying ???? ......
being the only people who have actually seen it and recorded it , their sources are quiet authentic (and the only one which can be relied upon )....... and we dont need history to tell us what happened 50 years back ..... people of that time still live today
"being the only people who have actually seen it and recorded it"
This answers my question well :lol:
"people of that time still live today"
Thank you but they got the same fodder then what we are getting now.

I don't assume, but I certainly look from my point of view.

you would rather believe in your own ideas and assumptions of what happened back then rather than history written by these victors ???
i guess you have seen it all with your own eyes ?? 1000 year old man are u ???:lol:
Better than spoon feeding. I don't believe until I have seen the both sides and taken a long break :-D
 

Faun

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so what Godse did was far worse ..... he killed a peaceful man for a flimsy reason (because he believed in a different ideology ?? )
Well...atleast he was not a silent assassin...you know hitman...Martin Luther King. There is a threshold for every person.

I am sure Gandhi Ji is in Heaven away from miseries of material world.:smile:

^ really immature ......
trolled :))

i am sure you have forgotten that unregistered guests can read our posts ..... its a possibility that a party supporter or a worker stumbles upon that posts .... If you want to stick your neck out and get effed up ..... be my guest , its your life .... i prefer to play it safe
You better stop using INTERNET.

PS : If you had read that news piece you would have realized that they can put you in jail for no reason at all , based on mere suspicion .....
Yeah, but why so serious when anyone can be picked without a reason ? Waise bhi politics mein jaane ke liye pehla kadam jail hai :lol:
 

Faun

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Wow now you are justifying castes based society ……… look what happened because ppl followed it …. India is divided left right and center .
You obviously dont know what you are talking about :lol:

Killing animals for the table (eating) ….. is not slaughter ….
It's slaughter when sacrificing animal during birth of Child and some festival.
It's slaughter when human have a choice to save some animal.

2.From ancient times (vedic times) a section of Indian Hindus ate Goat , Deer and also cow meat (like pointed previously in one of the threads in this forum)
See...a section of Hindus. Not all. I will be delighted if you can give me exact verses in vedas :smile:
 
You obviously dont know what you are talking about :lol:
random statements without any reference /reasoning / logic is not considered credible in a debate .....

It's slaughter when sacrificing animal during birth of Child and some festival.
It's slaughter when human have a choice to save some animal.
yeah .... and whos doing that ?


See...a section of Hindus. Not all. I will be delighted if you can give me exact verses in vedas :smile:
my dear i said "since vedic times ..... "

Vedic times is a period in history :) .....ok ?

The concept of vegetarianism is recent (less than 2000 years old). The historical accounts recorded in the Ramayana, Mahabharata and the Puranas depict people as non-vegetarian. Hinduism accepts the law of nature that one life is the food for another. However, Hinduism accepts that just as the mind affects the body (you want to lift your hand and your body does it), the body also affects the mind. The food eaten affects the organization and type of thoughts. For example, eating stolen food has been found to make the mind morally weak. Similarly, different types of food cause different effects in the mind. Non-vegetarian diet has been found to cause a condition called "rajotamas" - a mixture of delusion and hyperactivity. This is an undesirable condition for aspirants of God. A vegetarian diet aids control of the mind and religious study. For this reason, modern Hinduism advises a vegetarian diet to most spiritual aspirants.


There is both literary and archaeological evidence that attests to the slaughter as well as consumption of cows. In both the Bhagavata Purana15and the Ramayana,16 there is a discussion of go-vadha (‘cow slaughter’), which is seen as one of the symptoms of Kaliyuga. Throughout the Vedic period the cow was venerated and regarded as a divinity, yet throughout the period the cow was killed on several occasions and particularly in Sraddhas, for a distinguished guest in the Madhuparka, and in the Astilka Sraddha.17Moreover, archaeological evidence affirms the literary references vis-à-vis the slaughter of cows.18
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thank you for your concern ....... but i think u should be more worried about yourself not about others
 
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...Hinduism accepts that just as the mind affects the body (you want to lift your hand and your body does it), the body also affects the mind. The food eaten affects the organization and type of thoughts. For example, eating stolen food has been found to make the mind morally weak. Similarly, different types of food cause different effects in the mind. Non-vegetarian diet has been found to cause a condition called "rajotamas" - a mixture of delusion and hyperactivity. This is an undesirable condition for aspirants of God. A vegetarian diet aids control of the mind and religious study. For this reason, modern Hinduism advises a vegetarian diet to most spiritual aspirants.
I heard plenty of BS on this forum. But this has to be somewhere at the top of dung.:lol:
 
I heard plenty of BS on this forum. But this has to be somewhere at the top of dung.:lol:

lucky for you i found this at the site from which i quoted the text :lol::lol::lol:
How qualified are you to write this FAQ ? Can I ask you more questions ?

I am not an authority on Hinduism, nor am I well versed with the texts of Hinduism. Most of the knowledge gained and ideas formed are by listening to people, reading some books and thinking about them. I have been fortunate to get in touch with a few great people from whom I learnt most of these concepts and a few nice friends who helped me to dig the knowledge thus gained and get them organized by asking questions. If these answers are convincing and useful, I am happy about it. If you do not agree with some idea or you are not able to follow some concept, please feel free to send a mail to gokulmuthu@yahoo.com.
 

mediator

Technomancer
^^ Ah well, so you "quoted" some one who himself says that he is not an authority on scriptures and his ideas are formed by "listening to people" etc? Great going! Neways,

phantom said:
Where have I said that its offensive to me ??
So what are you suggesting ?? we punish the modern day Indian muslims for what a foreign muslim ruler did hundreds of years ago ….. that’s the ideology RSS go by ……All muslims are evil because few of em were villains
The point of studying history is not to get angry over what somebody did 100s of years ago and then go about killing ppl quiet unconnected with the incident living in the present …..
Where did I "suggested" something like that? You did not reply, "Where is it asking to kill muslims"?? Next, I asked how u perceive Quran which tells "how" and "why" infidels were killed? Did u lost ur balls on commenting on this one? A self-styled pseudo secularist? Not again!! :oops:

phantom said:
What I implied by my message is that India has been lecturing US about non-violence for a long time …. But when faced with a similar problem we find that we r no better than the US which is sad ……
Then why such a mention of US? First your posts have started to bore me and now you post something that has no meaning or relevance to the discussion.

phantom said:
* I am against capital punishment
*You should look up the word “Humanity” lol
:sigh:


phantom said:
Wow now you are justifying castes based society ……… look what happened because ppl followed it …. India is divided left right and center .
->Do you know that Turkey is majority muslim and a secular country J …….. ofcourse u don’t
->So if Muslims impose Sharia …. Hindus should impose Hindutva ? …. Nice reasoning …..
->It is covered as much as its required …… do you, like RSS want to manufacture more Muslim atrocity ??
"Justifying???????". I just got a heart attack! :oops: :oops: :cry:

Its like u tell a person that 2+2=4 and other replies, "why r u justifying 2+2=4".

My dear, I hope you understanf that human nature is such that it might follow something that is written in "scriptures". But if the "modern sense of cast system" is "not written" in scriptures and if what is written is "not followed", then how can u say one is following it? Perhaps you did not get the irony in ur own post!

Next, where did I say "Hindutva" should be implemented?? i only asked if sharia is implemented then why such a furure over hindutva? People don't make noise over "Sharia". I cant see ur or any one else's (those who make noise against hindutva) "secularity" here?

Do you know what "logic by refutation" means?

So do u ...
* condemn sharia?
* muslim reservation?
* The Haj pilgrimage package?
* Muslim maulanas who act more like politicians than preachers e.g Bukhari of Jama Masjid?

Next, Turkey a secular country? Are other allowed to practice their religious faiths "openly"? Can anyone raise his/her voice against or criticise Islam in a country that is basically a "Sunni" majority? Americans can mock Jesus openly, Indians can mock their religious figures openly, can the same be applied to a muslim majority country like Turkey? You must be out of your mind!!
*www.jihadwatch.org/archives/025408.php
*www.globalpolitician.com/25531-turkey
*en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Turkey#Restrictions_on_religious_freedom

phantom said:
Killing animals for the table (eating) ….. is not slaughter …. That’s RSS propaganda …….
1.Humans are Omnivores
2.From ancient times (vedic times) a section of Indian Hindus ate Goat , Deer and also cow meat (like pointed previously in one of the threads in this forum)
3.Killing animals and Humans for no reason is slaughter ……. So both Babhri and Godhra were slaughters / genocide/ethnic cleansing …..
Again Imagining stuff or is it your only talent?? I believe thats Islamist doctrine, which is visible by Zakir Naiks explaining it over again n again everywhere.

*www.hinduwisdom.info/articles_hinduism/283.htm
*www.aryasamaj.org/eng_art/A_clouds_over_understandingII.htm
*www.aryasamaj.org/eng_art/A_clouds_over_understanding.htm

Read carefuly the above links and tell what you understand by it, so that we can get a clue that you atleast have some basic comprehension skills!


phantom said:
The reaction was worse than the actions ……. Instead of Govt arresting the culprits , they instigated a mob to attack Muslims who were uninvolved in the first incident …..
Don't tell you don't do u r skool homework also! Did you, by any chance, or by some miracle, in ur mind...had a desire to read the links I gave?? :oops:

phantom said:
Nope I am reading …. Sometimes I forget to make a point
So you are just showing me a (one of) example ?? how many such muslims are in with BJP ? 1 , 2 3 ?? …. That guy joined BJP for power ….[ He was retired after all] ……. and Bjp wanted an image makeover as the article itself says
First, I did not gave the link to show that "he wud join BJP", but to show you what he spoke of, i.e the relevant part which,I guess, you intentionally missed !!?? i.e ...

ex-cop...
"“They were just mad people who had nothing to do with the BJP. I am thankful that God gave me presence of mind on that day. Had I opened fire with my service revolver, I would have been lynched.”"

I don't understand why r u opining and jumping like silly when nanavati report has given the clean chit??


phantom said:
What are you talking about ?? Sharma is a much decorated police officer and has won seven gallantry medals including a President of India's medal …… is this digrace to you ??
Ignoring the death of great police officer and then saying it was a conspiracy, is more than a disgrace. I didn't ask to checkout the history of Mohan Chand Sharma, but "how his sacrifice was turned into "vote banks" ". Ahh never mind, perhaps chatting with u on IM was indeed a better option! :oops:

phantom said:
What did Gandhi and Nehru get from partitioning India ? …. Don’t make such random statements
Such random statements are marked with "proofs" all the way. It is again a confirmation that you don't read the link I have given. Ahh, well keep your eyes wide open this time ...

article said:
The Congress neither acknowledged the Muslim League's performance, albeit poor, in the elections nor deigned to form a coalition government with the League, a situation that led to the collapse of negotiations and mutual trust between the leaders. Mohammad Ali Jinnah, a Western-educated Muslim lawyer, took over the presidency of the moribund Muslim League and galvanized it into a national force under the battle cry of "Islam in danger." Jinnah doubted the motives of Gandhi and Nehru and accused them of practicing Hindu chauvinism. He relentlessly attacked the Congress-led ministries, accusing them of casteism, corruption, and nepotism.

Why didn't the so called "secular" Nehru let Mohammed Ali Jinnah become the prime minister? Partitioning was a big mistake, thanx to congress, a weak party which couldn't contain communal divide and now playing vote banks over it, appeasing minorities and selling our country to terrorists!! :oops:

phantom said:
Quoting from your own link

“Last month, the Prime Minister favoured ‘fair share’ for minorities in government and private jobs as he spoke at the meeting of the National Commission for Minorities.”
:D :D Isn't that what I am saying? Isn't that communal i.e "favouring a fair share for minorities??" Isn't our country supposed to be "democratic, secular"? Are minorities unable to do anything on their own? Why such an "inclination", such a "privilege", a kind of luxury for any particular community ????


phantom said:
Dont act like a n00b .... leaving your email id in a public forum ???

How difficult is it for you to PM me your id
Oh well, perhaps you cud have Pmed me ur id from the start. Does that correct eror? But I prefer "a debate". Keep talking. :D


phantom said:
mediator said:
"BJP should have got us freedom"????????? Ah well,

Here's some timeline you should mug up to perform better in you school.
*www.bjp.org/content/view/436/289/
So Advani and AB Vajpaye and all those "young guns" in the RSS were born after the independence were they
That a 3rd heart attack! :oops:

I'm only trying to observe the lower threshold of human logic now, which according to my report just decreased even beyond! :oops:


phantom said:
BJP conviniently appeared only after the independence .........even though its founders were very much alive during the 1940s ... y did they not start it before ??
Buddy, I surrender! And so, I died, with 12 pack abs. :D


You were right people might not read big posts, but such jokes are always welcomed by everyone. So keep them coming! :)


phantom said:
RSS was founded in 1925 well before the independence .... thought their efforts towards the freedom struggle is "almost NIL"
So? Just coz its not covered in NCERT books, it doesn't mean its not there.
*timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/829811.cms.

phantom said:
At the outbreak of World War II, the Indian army numbered 205,000 men. Later on during World War II the Indian Army would become the largest all-volunteer force in history, rising to over 2.5 million men in size. These forces included tank, artillery and airborne forces. In matters of administration, weapons, training, and equipment, the Indian Army had considerable independence; for example, prior to the war the Indian Army adopted the Vickers-Berthier (VB) light machine gun instead of the Bren gun of the British Army, while continuing to manufacture and issue the older SMLE No. 1 Mk III rifle during World War II, instead of the No.4 Mk I Lee-Enfield issued to British Army forces

and do you have any idea about Congress's role in limiting India's participation in the WWII role
Judging by ur futile logic and posts, I guess, here too u failed to understand my point! :oops:
 

Faun

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random statements without any reference /reasoning / logic is not considered credible in a debate .....
There is no mention of Caste System in Vedas. So your argument is wrong.

Here is one verse fro Rig Veda:
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I am a bard, my father is a physician, my mother's job is to grind the corn......


yeah .... and whos doing that ?
My next door neighbor.

my dear i said "since vedic times ..... "

Vedic times is a period in history :) .....ok ?
But still is there anywhere it is written as a rule to eat meat ? And that para explains that meat is not good.

thank you for your concern ....... but i think u should be more worried about yourself not about others
lol...trolled again !
 

NOT FOUND

Right off the assembly line
^^Thanks Swatty..ur 100% correct..Lets see when Narendra bhai will become PM
w8ing for other digitians opinions....



MY VOTE FOR MNS
outsiders get out mumbai is the land of marathi people:mrgreen:
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let all state develop by their own why are you coming to mumbai
as there is great opportunity in other states also

Bhaiyas go back to u state you already spoiled U.P bihar
and now got eyes on mumbai...
y don't you develop you state....?????
 
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NOT FOUND

Right off the assembly line
the MAIN Topic is not BJP or Congress
See the current trend is that many people in india wants to leave INDIA and go in U.S/canada/australia, etc
to earn money and settle
every youngster today thinks of going aboard for studying then take a good job there and finally settling.
I admit I also feel the same because in INDIA there is nothing no appreciation for creativity. Population is concentrated on specific areas so hard to get high paying jobs

If a government which can stop all these and which will make an
U.S dollar equal to India Rupee then I will vote for that party...

Stop outsourcing for other countries
India as capability of creating good products..
don't let other countries take advantage of our skilled workers
 
My next door neighbor.
Good for you
But still is there anywhere it is written as a rule to eat meat ? And that para explains that meat is not good.
No, but does that justify Banning mutton/beef consumption ?
Personally i think its absolutely ok to eat NV in moderation.......anything too much is too bad ...... that includes NV ..... but consumption in moderation is totally ok ..... anyways there are more no of NVs than Vs

lol...trolled again !
trippin me eh ?
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@mediator

Debate totally out of syn ..... you misunderstood more than half the comments i made in my previous posts ......IMO You are just too biased to think from a neutral point of you ..... which also leads you to misunderstand my opinion/posts ......

and i cant make out when u r kidding and when you r not .....

anyways elections are on ....... lets see the outcome .......

just FYI i am not going to vote for the Congress(or BJP) / i dont subscriber to the communist ideology / i am not a muslim / and i dont eat beef
 
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reddick

Mobile Freak
I think Congress is better than BJP.

1. Manmohan singh is a genius PM and an intellegent economist
2. Congress have other strong leaders like - Rahul Ghandhi, Sonia Ghandhi, etc.
3. Currently India is a Nuclear powered nation in N-weapons and reactors due to signing agreement with U.S
4. India is a leading economy in these days as we have wise Fin. min. - Mr. P.Chitambaram
5. Govt. made Pakistan down in mumbai terror 26/11 and caught 'Kasab' alive
6. Many beneficial schemes were launched for poors and needy people
7. Development of infrastructure in Delhi,Mumbai and in other cities and in many villages also
8. Development in Railways.It earned great profit in this govt. only

And there r several other achievements our nation gained during Cong. rule

Today India is an emerging Developing nation on World Map.All the efforts of stable UPA govt.

So guys think and support for Congress!

:pEACE:
 

mediator

Technomancer
reddick said:
5. Govt. made Pakistan down in mumbai terror 26/11 and caught 'Kasab' alive
Whose govt. was it in Maharashtra and at the centre? And who were the people, and which party they belonged to, who "ignored" the warnings by the intelligence and later commented "ek aad ghatna hoti reti hai"? Then they removed those people! How convenient!

Funny, that Congress asked Vajpayee to escort Raul Baba when he was detained for "drugs" in US, and "ignores" the threats to the nation. May be, "Congress dynasty" is bigger than the nation!

reddick said:
7. Development of infrastructure in Delhi,Mumbai and in other cities and in many villages also
Like the BRT corridor and several deaths coz of it? Or the Metro girders falling off randomly? perhaps its the "Dwarka's killer flyover" u r talking bt?? Rise of rapes in the city? Or the freedom of women at night, with Shiela Dixit replying like "Girls shudn't be adventurous at night"??

You know even the 8 oscars are part of UPA's achievement! :razz:
 

freshseasons

King of my own Castle
I think BJP nor Congress is a option.
For all i think it should be BSP.Bahujan Samaj Party.Check Maharashtra. I mean which party gives tickets to Brahmans,marathas,telis,muslims (10 in all,Congress just one seat to muslim and that too to Antulay),Boyar,adivasi( open seat).
When all these communities have voice will this not lead to economic development .
The only party that is truly destroying casteism.
Then it is more of the pro poor party.
I know it is a growing party and have its problems but if you forget the stigma or prejudices attached to it ,right now it seems ways ahead of me in terms of other options.
 

reddick

Mobile Freak
No corner of the world is safe

Even today's super power nations like U.S and U.K are facing terrorism
No party is total CLEAN.There may b some drawbacks in every party but we have to look at overall development and what we have achieved and where we stand today among the whole world.

India is a largest democracy in the world and only UPA provided stable and strong alliance govt. in the country.

People are satisfied from the past 5 yrs. performance of the Congress.
The hatrick winning of 'Shiela Dikshit' in Delhi is d evidence of it.
 

mediator

Technomancer
reddick said:
People are satisfied from the past 5 yrs. performance of the Congress.
The hatrick winning of 'Shiela Dikshit' in Delhi is d evidence of it.
Really? Is it a coincidence that lakhs of Bangladeshi immigrants are living in Delhi and still rising or is it a vicious circle for petty vote banks? Even Lalu reigned for 15 years, or r u implying that it gives an evidence that people from Bihar were "satisfied" with him??

Thanx to Kongress, I believe we will be seeing bangladeshis sitting in delhi High Courts in a few decades. :oops:

*www.thaindian.com/newsportal/india...nts-a-threat-to-indias-security_10083245.html
*www.hvk.org/articles/0203/76.html
*www.hindu.com/2005/07/26/stories/2005072614090400.htm
 
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