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[damngoodman999]

Hi guys i am new here , I just wanted to know if somebody could suggest me a good motherboard for this setup.

PROCESSOR : Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 (2.33 GHz)
RAM : Corsair 2*2 GB DDR2 800 MHz
GRAPHICS CARD : Zotac 9800 GTX Amp Edition
HARD DISK DRIVE : Seagate 7200.11 ST3500320AS (500 GB, 32 MB CACHE)
CABINET : Cooler Master 690
SMPS : Corsair TX 650

I will be using this basically for some timepass animation,rendering,gaming and video conversion. And also cant exceed my budget of Rs 47,000 as this is going to be just a backup system . Also any other advice or changes on this config will be good .

everything so good for now , i would suggest u to go for HD 4850 instead of 9800gtx amp

PSU - HX 620 is more than enough , its a superb PSU

Cabinet is gr8 , but u can get better airflow cabby from ZEBRONICS for 2K

processor Q9300 is best than Q8200 , 500Rs more


My Mobo option is ASUS P5Q-pro , which comes with full ATI- crossfire support
best motherboard for its VLM.

 

[janitha]

everything so good for now , i would suggest u to go for HD 4850 instead of 9800gtx amp

PSU - HX 620 is more than enough , its a superb PSU

Cabinet is gr8 , but u can get better airflow cabby from ZEBRONICS for 2K

processor Q9300 is best than Q8200 , 500Rs more


My Mobo option is ASUS P5Q-pro , which comes with full ATI- crossfire support
best motherboard for its VLM.

 

[deathforce]

everything so good for now , i would suggest u to go for HD 4850 instead of 9800gtx amp

PSU - HX 620 is more than enough , its a superb PSU

Cabinet is gr8 , but u can get better airflow cabby from ZEBRONICS for 2K

processor Q9300 is best than Q8200 , 500Rs more


My Mobo option is ASUS P5Q-pro , which comes with full ATI- crossfire support
best motherboard for its VLM.

thanks for the advice

but i cant change the graphics card because i use it for animation and rendering other than games and all those softwares work best with an nvidia card , we face many problems with pc's having ati radeon .

HX 620 is a modular so i will have less of cable clutter ,will get that one.

About the cabinet i saw it at a friends house and he had it with all the optional fans (green LED nvidia edition) installed it looked good , i liked it but the regular cm 690 with red LED fans for me .

also if could you tell me the prices of Q9400,Q9300,Q8200 and the performance difference between them it would be helpful .

What is the price of ASUS P5Q-pro ,

And 2 stupid questions
1. Can i use 9800gtx with this mobo (yeah really stupid but still i wanted to conform)
2. Can i crossfire two 9800gtx's (Even stupider but it is better to ask if you don't know stuff )

 

[damngoodman999]

thanks for the advice

but i cant change the graphics card because i use it for animation and rendering other than games and all those softwares work best with an nvidia card , we face many problems with pc's having ati radeon .

HX 620 is a modular so i will have less of cable clutter ,will get that one.

About the cabinet i saw it at a friends house and he had it with all the optional fans (green LED nvidia edition) installed it looked good , i liked it but the regular cm 690 with red LED fans for me .

also if could you tell me the prices of Q9400,Q9300,Q8200 and the performance difference between them it would be helpful .

What is the price of ASUS P5Q-pro ,

And 2 stupid questions
1. Can i use 9800gtx with this mobo (yeah really stupid but still i wanted to conform)
2. Can i crossfire two 9800gtx's (Even stupider but it is better to ask if you don't know stuff )

Ya nvidia cards are better "even disney is using the Nvidia cards only . But the time has really changed dude .The Ati up to 3XXX series the cards are probably giving some minor issues not big problems

But i think u should really see the graphics reviews not in games as well as the graphical usage of the Ati 4850 & 4870 , many game developing companies are using
Ati cards now . check with GOOGLE reviews

Asus P5Q-pro cost around 9K not more than that , Then Nvidia cards cannot use with Crossfire technology .

With Nvidia chipset boards are used for SLi !!!

Q9300 is not much differ from Q8200 , but the Core clock speed is little higher thats all & only Rs 500 more for Q9300 """""""""Q 9300 - 13K''''''

If u really need a good Performance processor then select the Q9450 which has 12MB L2 cache + 1333FsB """"gr8 performance""""" -----> 14K''''''''''''''


by mY opinion Do Not WasTe MonEy On tHe CabinEt ,,, go For Zebronics ANTIBIOTICS , REAPER Which has 2 LED fans and 3 extra fittable fans

 

[spidy333]

Hi damngoodman999,

you suggested me to wait for AMD phenom 2 processors... any idea about their expected available date in india... My budget for mobo and proccy is 15k... can i be able to accommodate phenom 2 in that budget...

At present I am thinking of c2d e8400 @ 8.8k + MSI P45 Neo-F @ 6k - 14.8k... if the wait is worth then i will choose to wait.. but the problem is i cant wait for more than few weeks...

 

[NVIDIAGeek]

What's your rig, damngoodman999???

 

[NVIDIAGeek]

What's your rig, damngoodman999???

 

[comp@ddict]

10k phenom procc
5k mobo

Total 15k against dualcore INTEL @ 14.8k

So which is better u say

 

[spidy333]

that sounds like a good deal.. but what if the processor price is not what we expected... and the most important thing is would i be able to get a phenom by mid jan..?

 

[damngoodman999]

Hi damngoodman999,

you suggested me to wait for AMD phenom 2 processors... any idea about their expected available date in india... My budget for mobo and proccy is 15k... can i be able to accommodate phenom 2 in that budget...

At present I am thinking of c2d e8400 @ 8.8k + MSI P45 Neo-F @ 6k - 14.8k... if the wait is worth then i will choose to wait.. but the problem is i cant wait for more than few weeks...

hi

See dont ever think about the DUAL CORE its outdated now , Quad is all now u have .... phenom2 920 & 940 is launched on 9th Jan/09.

phenom 2 940 ---> 3Ghz 8MB L2 cache + L3 cache 45nm ... which even competes with Q9550 price is little high 11K - 12K ,, AMD not officially said

But dont worry AMD phenom 2 920 --> 2.8Ghz 8MB L2 cache + L3 cache 45nm ... price is 9K to 10K ,,,, this is equal to Q9450 even beats sometimes ----> this worth ur needs

mobo not a problem in AMD !!!!

What's your rig, damngoodman999???

I am using two rigs now @ home

AMD rig :: using for games & applications

AMD phenom X4 9550 - OCed 2.53Ghz
4 GB RAM 667Mhz
Asus M3A78-Em mobo
PALIT HD 4850
250GB + 160GB + 500GB ext HDD
LG dvd writer
Zebronics REAPER cabby
Cooler master EXT power 600watts
Viewsonic 19" monitor
Creative Audigy 5.1[sound card ]
Creative 5.1 inspire
Logitech normal Keyboard
i ball laser mouse


Intel rig ::: using it for LINUX

Intel DUAL CORE 3.44Ghz
Intel 945GNTL board
160Gb HDD
XFX geforce 7300LE 512mb
samsung DVD writer
Samsung 15" CRT

 

[comp@ddict]

that sounds like a good deal.. but what if the processor price is not what we expected... and the most important thing is would i be able to get a phenom by mid jan..?

Yup, Phenomby mid jan, DDR2 Phenom

DDR3 Phenom in Mid-Feb

 

[spidy333]

Ok.. good then... I will wait for the phenom2 to hit the market...

one little doubt... which proccy is better if phenom2 date gets shifted... c2d e8400 or Phenom X4 9950 Quad-Core Black?

 

[damngoodman999]

Ok.. good then... I will wait for the phenom2 to hit the market...

one little doubt... which proccy is better if phenom2 date gets shifted... c2d e8400 or Phenom X4 9950 Quad-Core Black?

9950 is quad core ----> if u ask before 2 months means i would be saying E8400 but now after looking at the GTA-4 "Quad core plays well"

And also farcry 2 which is good @ Quad ...

But dont select OLD phenoms ,,, check the BENCHMARKS of phenom 2 940 ,, u wont belive it ["EXTREMELY BENCHMARKED"]

just type in google => phenom 2 940 benchmarks

 

[spidy333]

9950 is quad core ----> if u ask before 2 months means i would be saying E8400 but now after looking at the GTA-4 "Quad core plays well"

And also farcry 2 which is good @ Quad ...

But dont select OLD phenoms ,,, check the BENCHMARKS of phenom 2 940 ,, u wont belive it ["EXTREMELY BENCHMARKED"]

just type in google => phenom 2 940 benchmarks

I think GTA 4 is a bad example for evaluating processor performance with its issues.. that said I'm inclined to buy phenom 9950 be if phenom 2 date gets shifted.... Can you give some motherboards for this proccy... I need to wait for 10 more days it seeems... atleast I'll get an idea about what an AMD motherboard has to offer....

I think i have long past crossed the irritation line.. Please excuse me for that...

 

[damngoodman999]

I think GTA 4 is a bad example for evaluating processor performance with its issues.. that said I'm inclined to buy phenom 9950 be if phenom 2 date gets shifted.... Can you give some motherboards for this proccy... I need to wait for 10 more days it seeems... atleast I'll get an idea about what an AMD motherboard has to offer....

I think i have long past crossed the irritation line.. Please excuse me for that...

Dude , the GTA-4 is multicore enhanced that means it fully utilize the 4 cores of the proccy ... the previous games which utilize only 2 cores maximum

from GTA-4 on wards the games developed for 4 cores or multicore


Plz dont buy the AMD 9950 proccy dude surely u wont satisfy ,, less L2 cache & L3 cache

AMD phenom 2 is officialy announced by the AMD the release date is on the 9th jan .

only 2 proccy is released 920 & 940

considering mobo

780g & 790g chipsets are the latest board available right now

with the crossfire support the mobo is available for 5k ---> choose Jetway & Biostar

without crossfire u can have for 4k --->Asus , jetway , ECS , Biostar on the 780G chipset


dude see i bought my AMD quad proccy with my friend ,, my friend bought E 8500 + MSi P45 platinum board + palit HD 4850 =>Rs 30500 /-

i bought
AMD phenom X4 9550 + Asus M3A78-Em board + Palit Hd 4850 = Rs 20700/-

Both the performance are same but when we play crysis 15% of the FPS decreases for me , Farcry 2 10% decresed and GTA - 4 10% fps decresed for him , NFS prostreet equal FPS

computing speed is considered as same some time my system gets slow on the startup & gets up normal AMD phenom 9550 after 6 hours of continous gaming my system slows up little ===> heats up little bit @ load ,, E 8500 can stablize the game for long period and runs cool , after 11 hours of continous gaming even E 8500 hangs up little ===> runs very cool @ Load


THIS performance is tested by us ,, its really truth the OLD games E8500 sure wins
From GTA-4 AMD phenom 9550 10% more FPS than Core2Duo

IS THIS ENOUGH DUDE !!!

 

[spidy333]

Thanks very much for your efforts... If phenom 2 gets out by its announced date.. then i will definitely select it... fingers crossed... hope they make it to here in india also by the same time....

 

[comp@ddict]

But keep in mind the DDR2 Phenom II's will be relased but will get outdated very soon, say by May-June 2009, cuz DDR3 Phenom will replace them.

However, the price of DDR2 Phenom and a DDR2 Phenom based rig will be much much lesser than DDR3 for a li'l performance down.

 

[damngoodman999]

But keep in mind the DDR2 Phenom II's will be relased but will get outdated very soon, say by May-June 2009, cuz DDR3 Phenom will replace them.

However, the price of DDR2 Phenom and a DDR2 Phenom based rig will be much much lesser than DDR3 for a li'l performance down.

You are right cause = DDR 3 prices will sure fall in Apr/09 ,, Phenom 2 940 will not be the future proof in performance ... but can use it for budget gaming

Very late in launching the Phenom 2

 

[comp@ddict]

Very 45nm according to me from AMD shud have come out long time bak

 

[IronManForever]

Can anyone help building a rig for me? Budget 20k.
I need Proccy, Mobo, RAM, GFx Card, PSU.