HDR TV For Gaming and Movies

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1. Budget - around 50,000 INR
2. Display type and size - 40-43"
3. What will the TV/monitor be used for primarily? - PS4 Gaming, Full HD Action Films
4. Types and number of ports required - 2 HDMI ports if possible, USB that supports all latest
5. Preferred choice of brand - Sony and Samsung
6. Any TV in consideration - Samsung 43MU6100, Sony KLV-W772E, Sony KLV-43W662F
7. Any other info that you want to share: I am looking a quality very high contrast deepest black Full HD HDR TV 40-43 inch, motion flow should be more than 60Hz as it's 2018 not 2008.
 
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Check this very detailed review(it is for 58" version though):
Samsung MU6100 Review (UN58MU6100)

The other 2 sony models mentioned are not available on above site & the models mentioned as best in 40-43" category are not available in India.Based on almost universal fact of Indian markets always getting inferior models in any electronics/consumer appliances area,my guess is that out of the 3 models samsung mu6100 seems a better bet.
The 4 Best 40-42-43 inch TVs: Reviews

P.S.Better take some demo HDR clips & test these models personally at local showrooms.
 
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Nerevarine

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When regular TVs say they have 120 hz or 240 hz refresh rate, then it is not so. They use image interpolation or tomfoolery to have that as a setting but dont be fooled into thinking its actual 120hz or 240 hz.
In short, Yes, every TV within that price range is 60 hz.

None of the tv's in your consideration has >60hz. The samsung one claims to be 100 hz but that is some prime bullshittery right there, to fool consumers.

42.5" Samsung UE43MU6100 - Specifications
 
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Sony KLV-W772E
Though this also has 60hz panel and uses frame interpolating techniques to increase to remove blurr .
 
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Nerevarine said:
When regular TVs say they have 120 hz or 240 hz refresh rate, then it is not so. They use image interpolation or tomfoolery to have that as a setting but dont be fooled into thinking its actual 120hz or 240 hz.
In short, Yes, every TV within that price range is 60 hz.

None of the tv's in your consideration has >60hz. The samsung one claims to be 100 hz but that is some prime bullshittery right there, to fool consumers.

42.5" Samsung UE43MU6100 - Specifications
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I know they have marketing with clear motion rate which is 60Hz processed to look smoother than a normal 60hz TV.
So overall I am asking which one would be better in my 50-55k budget. Sony's motion flow processing to look smooth or samsung's CMR?

Also at what starting price a real more than 60 Hz TV set comes in of any size?
 
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whitestar_999 said:
Check this very detailed review(it is for 58" version though):
Samsung MU6100 Review (UN58MU6100)

The other 2 sony models mentioned are not available on above site & the models mentioned as best in 40-43" category are not available in India.Based on almost universal fact of Indian markets always getting inferior models in any electronics/consumer appliances area,my guess is that out of the 3 models samsung mu6100 seems a better bet.
The 4 Best 40-42-43 inch TVs: Reviews

P.S.Better take some demo HDR clips & test these models personally at local showrooms.
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Actually I am bit skeptical with samsung TV as there is one I purchased LED 32" in the year 2011 of which panel gets moisture and black vertical lines after 16 months of use.
And there is nothing as such high moisture area in my living room. Felt cheated from samsung as the quality of panel lasts till warranty. So was thinking to get SONY as they are something moisture proof body.
 
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vito scalleta said:
Do u want more than 60 Hz refresh rate or motion flow greater than 60 ? Those are two different things. At 50k finding a TV with 120 Hz refresh rate would be tough luck. In India.
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what is the starting price a real more than 60 Hz TV set of any size?
 
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I compared Samsung MU6100 with Sony X720E and found that:
Sony has worse contrast, blacks looks grey and lacks black uniformity
Samsung has flickering but sony has no flickering
 
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^^On which content you noticed flickering,I mean fast moving scenes or some complex multi colour scene etc.Also by flickering you mean rapid changes in contrast or something else.
 
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whitestar_999 said:
^^On which content you noticed flickering,I mean fast moving scenes or some complex multi colour scene etc.Also by flickering you mean rapid changes in contrast or something else.
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*i.rtings.com/images/reviews/tv/samsung/mu6100/mu6100-backlight-small.jpg

As per Rtings dot com
The TV dims the backlight without using PWM from 'Backlight' setting 20/20 until 13/20, then it dims using PWM from 'Backlight' 12/20 until 0/20. This means that the screen will not have flicker when at high brightness, but at mid brightness and below the TV will have worse flicker the dimmer it gets. Because the flicker is at 120 Hz it won't be very noticeable, but it will cause double image artifacts during motion, as seen in the photo in the motion blur section. This means that the TV has worse motion when the backlight is dim, while TVs without flicker like the Sony have good motion no matter their brightness.

Also the review of 58 inch model and I am planning for a 43 inch
 
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Nerevarine

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>60hz no idea if such TVs are available in India but plenty of such monitors are available. But you will have to discard HDR and screen size for that.
Also u need something that can deliver such framerates (a PS4 pro cannot)
 
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I think you should stick to 60hz HDR TV. PS4 Pro can't push such frame rates as @Nerevarine said. Plus AFAIK there is no advantage of 120hz display on Movie watching experience. My 2 cents, focus on getting good HDR Tv and pair it with PS4 Pro for HDR content. Note: Ps4 Pro and regular version don't support 4k blu ray. Only regular full HD blu ray playback. Xbox S and X do support. But PS4 has better exclusives IMO.
 
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Stormbringer said:
I think you should stick to 60hz HDR TV. PS4 Pro can't push such frame rates as @Nerevarine said. Plus AFAIK there is no advantage of 120hz display on Movie watching experience. My 2 cents, focus on getting good HDR Tv and pair it with PS4 Pro for HDR content. Note: Ps4 Pro and regular version don't support 4k blu ray. Only regular full HD blu ray playback. Xbox S and X do support. But PS4 has better exclusives IMO.
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Ok now I am focusing on a good 60hz HDR TV with brilliant processing on motion flow. Also I have PS4 slim not the pro so games will run 1080p with HDR. I am very much confused between Samsung and Sony models. Help me out in that, please!
Also considering 4K HDR TV is the future and expecting most of the content, PS5 and TV channels with become 4K in 2-3 years. So it might be future proof.
 
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whitestar_999 said:
I meant actually looking at the TV because theoretical cons may not be as noticeable in real life situations.
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There is no such seller who sells both Sony and Samsung with demo in my region. I need to go to both samsung and sony center to compare for that.
 
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