DON'T BUY A ULV CPU THEY SAID, It wont be good for gaming they said....

[AbhMkh]

I bought the Dell Inspiron 15R a month ago

Dell Inspiron 15R Laptop - Mainstream laptops from Dell

I asked around the forum for advice and everybody criticized the above laptop for its ULV haswell I7, but being an IT engineer myself I was convinced about the gaming capabilities of this laptop and decided to go for it.

Specs are As follows

Proccy : Intel Core I7-4500U

Ram : 8 GB DDR3

and the best part

GPU : 128 bit/2 GB AMD RADEON 8850M DDR5

Now to try out the gaming capabilities of this machine, I downloaded the popular RTS game released this year COMPANY OF HEROES 2 and did a performance test

Here are the results

*i.imgur.com/yDt7cOT.png


*i.imgur.com/D4cpUPY.png


And here are the results of some other systems to compare

*i.imgur.com/qLfK6Os.jpg


So to sum up my system with a "ULV CPU" produced better FPS than a 4700MQ/750M system and a 4702HQ/750M system.

and all this along with a stellar battery life of 6+ hrs !!!


I would say ...."IN YOUR FACE ULV CPU CRITICS"


HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN A ULV CPU EQIPPED SYSTEM PRODUCING BETTER FPS THAN A QUAD CORE EQUIPPED SYSTEM ???

Cheers!
Abhijit

 

[seamon]

Nice!!
I have both laptops.
A Dell Inspiron 15(same as yours) and a Y500.
I'll test crysis 3 on both and I'll tell you.
Btw post some playable FPS(frames per sec not first person shooter) lol.
Still...8850 is a better card than gt650m

 

[snap]

but 8850M is ranked higher than the 750m right?

 

[seamon]

Testing Results:-
First Test:- Win Rar test and the winner is Dell Inspiron 15(maybe Y500 slowed down because Kaspersky was scanning =/ )
Time Difference-10 sec.

Edit:- Response time in Inspiron is 1 sec late, ie, when clicked Install on both machines together, the Inspiron lagged for a sec but that is probably due to the SSD in Y500.
Also, I am testing both machines in equally, ie, installing Crysis 3 in HDD only.

 

[AbhMkh]

but 8850M is ranked higher than the 750m right?

Earlier(about a month ago) notebookcheck ranked it lower than the 750M, but now its ranked higher.

Anyways, 750m GDDR5 has a higher core speed/memory speed/memory bandwidth/texture and pixel rate

Whereas 8850M GDDR5 has higher no of Shader Processing/Texture Mapping/Render Output Units

 

[seamon]

Testing Results:-
CPU usage during installation:-

Inspiron:-37%(max)
Y500:-24% (max, also running firefox and League of Legends from SSD)

 

[hybridic]

Testing Results:-
First Test:- Win Rar test and the winner is Dell Inspiron 15(maybe Y500 slowed down because Kaspersky was scanning =/ )
Time Difference-10 sec.

Edit:- Response time in Inspiron is 1 sec late, ie, when clicked Install on both machines together, the Inspiron lagged for a sec but that is probably due to the SSD in Y500.
Also, I am testing both machines in equally, ie, installing Crysis 3 in HDD only.

More tests are welcomed . I am seriously under heavy doubt of that ULV cpu .

Moreover i am confused between the two laptops, both of which you already have , so its better to ask you .
1) DELL inspiron 15r ( i7 4500u + 8850m )
and
2) Y500 or 510 .

Should i spend that extra 12000 bucks for a Y500 or the dell can handle everything except some video editing ?

 

[AbhMkh]

Testing Results:-
CPU usage during installation:-

Inspiron:-37%(max)
Y500:-24% (max, also running firefox and League of Legends from SSD)

Is your Y500 a dual GT650M one ?


If that is the case one can expect it to perform better than the 8850M, if that's not the case then we will have to wait for the crysis 3 results !

And dude, check your thinkdigit inbox

 

[seamon]

Is your Y500 a dual GT650M one ?


If that is the case one can expect it to perform better than the 8850M, if that's not the case then we will have to wait for the crysis 3 results !

And dude, check your thinkdigit inbox

Er... single GPU

Y500 wins installation round , ahead by a good 50 sec and 6.3%
You check your inbox. xD

Edit :- Gonna download Direct X for Inspiron 15 -.-
Sorry for the delay

 

[AbhMkh]

Done, Also while running Crysis 3 make sure you run the game on HD resolution on both laptops, since the 15R cannot go beyond that.


Try doing

1366*768, medium preset, 16X AF,AA

 

[SaiyanGoku]

I bought the Dell Inspiron 15R a month ago

Dell Inspiron 15R Laptop - Mainstream laptops from Dell

I asked around the forum for advice and everybody criticized the above laptop for its ULV haswell I7, but being an IT engineer myself I was convinced about the gaming capabilities of this laptop and decided to go for it.

Specs are As follows

Proccy : Intel Core I7-4500U

Ram : 8 GB DDR3

and the best part

GPU : 128 bit/2 GB AMD RADEON 8850M DDR5

Now to try out the gaming capabilities of this machine, I downloaded the popular RTS game released this year COMPANY OF HEROES 2 and did a performance test

Here are the results

*i.imgur.com/yDt7cOT.png


*i.imgur.com/D4cpUPY.png


And here are the results of some other systems to compare

*i.imgur.com/qLfK6Os.jpg


So to sum up my system with a "ULV CPU" produced better FPS than a 4700MQ/750M system and a 4702HQ/750M system.

and all this along with a stellar battery life of 6+ hrs !!!


I would say ...."IN YOUR FACE ULV CPU CRITICS"


HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN A ULV CPU EQIPPED SYSTEM PRODUCING BETTER FPS THAN A QUAD CORE EQUIPPED SYSTEM ???

Cheers!
Abhijit

those other systems have 1920*1080 resolution while yours has a 1366*768.

if your had FHD resolution too, it would've got worse results than them.

 

[snap]

actually the high settings is HD the ultra is full hd if you hover the mouse above high it shows the settings

 

[AbhMkh]

those other systems have 1920*1080 resolution while yours has a 1366*768.

if your had FHD resolution too, it would've got worse results than them.

SO WHAT ?

The tests in high setting have been run by manually setting the resolution to 1366*768



Cheers!
Abhijit

 

[seamon]

Tested on these settings:-
Mode:-Windowed.
Everything Medium.
AF=16x
Lens flares=yes
Textures med
vsync =off(obviously -.-)
AA=off( was creating problems - restart etc)

Note:GT 650M was overclocked to +132Mhz(core) and +687(memory). I was trying to match GT750m speeds. =/
Testing conditions:-
First Test:- In this test I tested by looking at a place where there was lots to render, ie, maximum things.
Second Test:- Amount of things to render was lowered by looking away at a more easy on the GPU place.
Third Test:- Sky test, looked at the sky.Lots or rain to render, nothing else.

Y500:-
First test= 26-33.
Second Test=30
Third Test=50-63, stabilizes at 50.

Inspiron 15
First test=19-24.
Second Test=30
Third Test=30-40, stabilizes at 37.

Note:- None of the drivers were latest, installing latest drivers on both will probably lead to better results but that's a pain in the @$$

Comments please. xD

Edit: CPU test(task manager FTW)
Y500 CPU usage=33%
Inspiron 15 CPU usage=62%

Torture Test:-
Everything max and by everything I mean EVERYTHING(except vsync)
vsync off(-.-)

Same test conditions as before:-
Y500
1-10 FPS
2- 16 FPS
3-26 FPS

Inspiron 15
1- 6 FPS
2- 11 FPS
3- 16 FPS

 

[priyankgupta]

So, please tell me, is this Dell Inspiron 15R 5537 better, or Lenovo Y510?

 

[AbhMkh]

So average of the highest results on mid settings would be

Y500(Overclocked GT650M) : 37 FPS

15 R : 31 FPS

750M : Acc to notebookcheck 30.6 FPS(4700MQ/750M)

Dont you think you are overclocking too much ?

So, please tell me, is this Dell Inspiron 15R 5537 better, or Lenovo Y510?

Lenovo Y510p costs 75K+ whereas 15R costs 66K, both are in a completel different league.

If u can afford that much Y510P would better option but in sub 70K range u cannot beat Inspiron 5537

 

[seamon]

Notebookcheck.net uses ancient drivers, those are extremely outdated and they don't bother to update.
Gt650m is running at 922MHz core and and 4687Mhz memory.(default 790Mhz and 4000Mhz)(lower than 750m)
I can't overclock above core +135Mhz because it's locked by the bios and even +135Mhz is unstable in my case.

Edit:- Sorry memory clock was only 1344Mhz and even still it was under only 50% load.
Clock speed was 922.7Mhz and GPU load=99%

want me to OC the 8850?

Stupid Dell locked the cores for 8850 at 600Mhz(core).
This thingy is gonna need a custom bios flash(ain't gonna do that).

Edit 2:-
GT 750m in notebook check net @30.6FPS uses slow DDR3 memory
GDDR5 is 48FPS, dammit I am still not getting so high scores.
Notebookcheck.net gives even lower scores to 8850 crysis 3 test @28.8FPS

BTW my Dell is a bit different from yours.
Mine is Dell Inspiron 15 and not 15R.
The difference is only the cover, mine is scratch proof but dull looking, yours is shiny.
Specs are same, i7 4500U , 8GB Ram, AMD Radeon 8850 2GB.
Mine cost 60k+10k(3 years extended warranty, total= 4 years)

 

[AbhMkh]

Anyways here is a review of the laptop, I especially like the conclusion

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[seamon]

I think crysis 3 is performing better in the y500 due to cpu bottleneck in the Inspiron 15.
According to this thread
TR Forums • View topic - Crysis 3 CPU scaling, hyperthreading vs AMD cores

Crysis 3 is better at utilizing physical cores than threads. When I saw 63%usage in the Inspiron 15 yesterday,maybe both the physical cores were being utilized but not the threads to their full capacities and hence the low fps. In less CPU intensive games and more Gpu intensive ones, the. 8850 will probably perform better.

 

[AbhMkh]

I think crysis 3 is performing better in the y500 due to cpu bottleneck in the Inspiron 15.
According to this thread
TR Forums • View topic - Crysis 3 CPU scaling, hyperthreading vs AMD cores

Crysis 3 is better at utilizing physical cores than threads. When I saw 63%usage in the Inspiron 15 yesterday,maybe both the physical cores were being utilized but not the threads to their full capacities and hence the low fps. In less CPU intensive games and more Gpu intensive ones, the. 8850 will probably perform better.

But this doesn't make any sense, RTS(COH2) and RPG(AC3) games are supposed to be more CPU intensive whereas FPS(COD,BF,Crysis)games are supposed to be more GPU intensive.

But the results here show to the contrary.


Yes, I did some research and found out that the Crysis 3 is a very CPU intensive game, even for desktop CPU's, do you have any other game that we can use to test ?

Farcry 3, BF3, COD 3, COD BO 2, BF 4, COD ghosts(the std FPS's) etc ?