What graphic card do YOU need?

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  1. akshayt

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    Ultra High End
    Geforce 7950GX2
    Geforce 7900GTX SLi
    Geforce 7900GTX SLi O
    Geforce 7800GTX SLi
    Radeon X1800XT Crossfire(I think)
    Radeon 512mb X1800XT Crossfire
    Radeon X1900XT/XTX Crossfire

    Gameplay: 1600*1200 or higher with maximum settings, mosly with AA and AF. Exceptions: Oblivion
    System: Get 2-4gb ram and any dual core(preferably Conroe) or Amd 3700-4000 or higher class cpu
    Future: Until Dx10 is not required.
    Budget: Rs.35000+
    Recommended Solution(VFM/Performance): Radeon X1900XT Crossfire (don't know price of Master card)

    High End
    Geforce 7800GTX 512mb O
    Geforce 7900GT 512mb
    Geforce 7900GTX
    Radeon X1800XT 512mb
    Radeon X1900XT
    Radeon 1900XTX

    Gameplay: 1280*1024/1600*1200 with maximum settings, in most cases AA and AF enabled.
    System: Amd 64 3000 to Lower Dual cores with atleast 2gb ram.
    Future: Few months easily, around a year should be acceptable.
    Budget: Rs.28000+
    Recommended Solution(VFM/Performance): Radeon X1900XT


    Extreme Mainstream
    Geforce 7900GT
    Radeon X1800XT
    Radeon X1900GT

    Gameplay: 1024*768 or 1280*1024 with maximum or very high ( little less than maximum) settings with some times AA and AF.
    System: Amd 64 3000 or higher with 2gb ram.
    Future: Around a few months, until the next gen of games isn't released, even then these cards should be fine with many/most games.
    Budget: Rs.17500+
    Recommended Solution(VFM/Performance): Geforce 7900GT in India, Radeon X1800XT at newegg


    Mainstream
    Geforce 7800GT O
    Radeon X1800XL O

    Gameplay: 1024*768 primarily, sometimes 1280*1024, generally high or maximum settings except in cases like GRAW, Oblivion etc.
    System: Any Amd 64 with 2gb ram.
    Future: Atmost a few months left, already getting useless cards.
    Budget: Around Rs.17000, not worth buying anymore, since you get Extreme Mainstream now for more or less the same cost.
    Recommended Solution(VFM/Performance): Radeon X1800XL, 512mb costed 199$ some time back, no solution for India


    Lower Mainstream
    Geforce 7600GT
    Geforce 6800ULTRA O
    Geforce 6800GT/GS (GT O)
    Radeon X1800GTO
    Radeon X850XT PE O
    Radeon X850XT O
    Radeon X800XT PE O
    Radeon X800XT O
    Radeon X800XL O
    Radeon X800PRO(I think) O

    Gameplay: 1024*768 MED-MAXIMUM
    System: Amd 64 or Intel 2.8-3.2 or higher with atleast 1gb ram, 2gb strongle recommended.
    Future: Time's up already.
    Budget: Rs.10000+(maybe around 11k)
    Recommended Solution(VFM/Performance): 7600GT/X1800GTO


    Low end
    Geforce 7600GS
    Geforce 7300GT GDDR 3
    Geforce 6800/LE/XT O
    Geforce 6600GT
    Radeon X800GTO O
    Radeon X800GT O
    Radeon X1600PRO(not sure about XT)
    Radeon 9800PRO/XT O
    Geforce FX5900/5800/5950 ULTRA O

    Gameplay: 800*600 lowest (yet crappy performance in case of 6600GT) to 1024*768 Med(ok-ok)
    System: Intel HT 2.8 or Amd Athlon 3000 XP or higher, actually you should get a better cpu becasue the card itself is crap, in above cases the card was fine so the cpu took a back seat.
    1gb ram.
    Budget: Rs.5000+, maybe more
    Recommended Solution(VFM/Performance): Geforce 7600GS, none recommended actually


    Entry Level
    Radeon X1300 series
    Geforce 6600/LE
    Geforce 6200 series
    Geforce FX 5900/5800/5950 or lower O
    Radeon 9800 O
    Radeon 9700PRO O
    Geforce 7300GT
    Geforce 7300GS


    Gameplay: Crappy at any settings for the most intensive games, smoe games should be fine at 800*600/1024*768 low - med.
    System: The fastest you can afford( spend it on the card though), but atleast Intel HT or Athlon XP 2500 with 1gb ram.
    Budget: Rs.4000-5000 or up or so
    Recommended Solution(VFM/Performance): None

    Obsolete: O
     
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    Indeed this post is ... quite a misleading one ...
     
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    no it is not. I garuntee you won't make a mistake, if you have any specific objection, please let me know.
     
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    Against this whole thing if u didn't notice ... a very bad list ...
     
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    well...OMG....nothin is has comic has this.....7600GT in lower Mainstream....
    thts funny....
    6800 GT in the same.....well u better edit ur post before all screw u up!!!
     
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    7600GT is lower mainstream it can play new games only at 1024*768 MED at most, games like Oblivion and GRAW , even Serious Sam 2 will not be maximum, upcoming games will be lower mainstream.

    A mainstream card is meant to do 10X7 MAX no AA, that I have give n the position to 7800GT although it can't but it is more or less ok for most games.
     
  7. gxsaurav

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    7600GT is low mainstream....have u even used it?

    In my thinking, SLI & Crossfire are just waste of money....u don't double the frame rates, but u pay double...& how much more do u need, then 60 fps anyway

    your list is wrong...a 6600GT & now 7600GT are the best bang for buck...a video card now, just doesn't mean gaming performance anymore, there are added features in it, which also matters, cos everyone doesn't play games all the time. & 7600GT's time up....[​IMG] rofl dude rofl.....it will play all games fine for 2 years to come at 1024X768 easily

    1024X768 with 2XQ AA & 4X Anis. Filtering is enough...to play at a monitor of 17", at 85 Hz...Hardly anyone goes beyond that in India

    & 2 to 4 GB RAM, how much do u use....at 1600X1200 only, 2 GB RAM is saturated by a few games...1 GB is more then enough for games out there, most games are single core, but dual core is preferred anyway...cos as I said, it's not just the gaming u do on a computer

    What makes u think a 7900GTX is good enough for one year only? remember....directX 10 games will not be out until 2008 at least....those which require pure DX10 only, & still they will have a back ported engine to DX 9c, these cards are good enough for 3 years easily...& will die at 3.5 years...I still play games on my FX5900XT which started chinking out after 2 years of buying...or 3 years of releasing. I wonder why u r keeping Geforce 7900, 7800 & X1800XT/X1900XT in mainstream section, dude they are highend
     
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    Good enough means something that can run everything maxed out, not just making the scenes run.

    1900XT is high end.
    7900 and 1800 256mb versions are the highest mainstreams. I can explain that.

    I have played on a 7600GT and I was disappointed a bit, you can play FEAR only on 1024*768 MAX no soft shadows no AA, this is what a lower mainstream should do. Oblivion and GRAW not played on 7600GT, but won't do more than 10X7 Med, SS2(not played on a 7600GT) won't do max again, saying either by benchies or website or experience.


    2GB is used by todays games even at 10X7 MAX. PERIOD go ask anyone.
    4GB is a precaution, games like FEAR and BF2 releases about/over a yr back used 2gb while most people wither thought that 1gb was enough or bought just 1gb, have you tried playing with 4gb in the latest games like GRAW, maybe that is where we are missing out, maybe GRAW runs well on 4gb.

    4GB is not a must as I don't have proof, but if you have the money, getting 4GB is prefered imo.
     
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  9. gxsaurav

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    i wonder how u were not able to play fear at 1024X768, at 2XQ AA & 2X Anis on 7600GT, cos i was able to play it fine....r u sure u configured it properly

    2 GB is indeed not used by games at 1024X768 but at higher resolution, BF2, benifits from it, only if u r playing on network....how do u check the games man, check again

    4 GB is good, but whats the cost now? but that in 2008
     
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    4GB will be needed for many games inthe near future.

    2gb is needed for quake 4 at ultra settings
    FEAR needs 2gb with max settings.

    @ Gaurav, were you playing FEAR with soft shadows on and everything max, I was talking with soft shadows.
     
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    Well Akshayt......
    can u tell me the difference between...ultra n extreme n highend......

    If we consider ur list order.....

    according to u....
    Ultra means - 3stars - ***
    highend means - 2 stars - **
    extreme means - only 1 star - *

    @gxsaurav
    so u said HARDLY right.....with my x1900 Gt i always play games at 1280*1024, 6X AA....all max...n tht too with butter smoot frames.....
    I hope im included in ur HARDLY....

    ..LOL....say it recomended.....not enough.....I really wonder wht collection of games do u have....let me guess...Roadrash, NFS 2, Doom 1(DOS)........[Please dont get upset....i was joking] specify wht do u mean by "there"...
     
  12. gxsaurav

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    lets see

    u do come in "hardly" ymhatre, the majority out there, in India playes games at 800X600 or 1024X768

    I tried Qukae 4, HL 2 : Lost cost & then Episode 1, & with proper settings (custom modem cfg files, etc) it ran perfectly on 1 GB RAM, i borrowed a 6600GT AGP though for HL2 parts. Quake 4 ran fine on 1 GB and with 1.5 GB I only got 2 fps increse, but i tried it with Patch 1.05,

    i played Fear on 6600GT, 1024X768, no AA & Anis, soft shadow off...& still i played it fine on 1 GB RAM, just customised the hell out of it, which i always do

    & just ask any games here, which games i play & u will know about my game collection
     
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    Greetings Guys,
    I'm looking for a Mid range Gfx card(as per my standards, which say that it should run all the upcoming games(for yrs max) at 1024x768 at high settings) under 9k.

    Start digging. Also. Specify the cards available in India and specify their specifications. Guys , Have you heard of RTHDRBL ??? (don't google around now. Be honest) Its an uber heavy bechmark based on HDR. REALLY stresses the best there is. Check it out.
     
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    1)@ ymhatre, you have quoted gaurav's statements, not mine. Also what games do you play and at what system config, cpu and ram etc do you have?

    2)kaustav geek, what you want can not come in 9k, at the very minimum double the budget and preferably 4 times that too only in dx9 mode.

    3) RAM won't show you an increase in FPS in many/some cases. But stuttering will erduce/vanish and thegame will become smoother.

    The best you can get on stretching your budget is 7600GT around 10.5k.
    GRAW : 10X7 low to med or med
    Oblivion : 10X7 med
    FEAR : 10X7 MAX no AA no soft shadows
    Quake 4: 10X7 High ( not ultra high)
    Quake 4 and FEAR I think were released about a yr back and yet the 7600GT plays them only on these settings, so you could imagine what will happen in the months to come.
    For Quake 4 I might be incorrect, try on a friends pc if you want.
    By and large, you can assume that the upcoming games of this yr and beginning of next yr should mostly run at 10X7 med, with times getting tougher you will need to come down to 10X7 low to med, however if you don't want decent frame rates and are willing to compromise on gameplay then you might be able to tweak your settings to make a game run somethnig low, something me, something high, that is all that can be done. But remember than even for all this you should be having atleast 2GB ram with Amd 64 3000 or higher preferably overclocked especially for the future.
     
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    Ya i have... 6600GT is not that bad as u say it is... i have not noticed a flicker while playing any game... it is rare to find considerable drop in frame rates... though i dont play at very high details... 6600GT is certainly not that bad as u say it to be....
     
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    I too was using a 6600GT.

    I read in a review at fringsquad that I think it was playing Oblivion at 800*600 low - med or so.

    Also, Quake 4 runs crap, even on a 7600GT if you higer the settings.

    Most Wanted too needs to be really lowered down on settings to get 40-50 fps range.

    Which games are you talking of playing at very high details.
     
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    how much is a processor relevent while playing high end games...

    Is X2 4200+ withh 6600gt better(which i have)
    or
    Is Athlon 64 3200+ with 7600 GT better(which ppl recommended me here in this forum)
     
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    obviously 3200+ & 7600 GT will xcell !!! coz grphix card mattrs much more thn processr !!!

    and regarding a 7600 GT... yup it will continue to play good with future dx9c games but wid upcoming games like Crysis, it's time will soon be quite over unless u wud luv 2 ply @ low settings !!!
     
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