aryayush said:
1) Thank God! I, and most other people who will buy this phone, would not have it any other way. They only reason I would buy this expensive phone is that it runs OS X. I have not bought an iPod even though I am an Apple fan because it does not run OS X.!
And shall i also assume that you have looked at the OS-X source tree then ? what a nOOb answer!!!!!!!!!!
Listen the architecture which is great for a desktop PC is ill-suited for a Embedded system and is one of the reasons MS wrote the entire source tree for Wince for scratch.
For example take a direct show framework, It looks like it is a sub-set of the Windows XP frmework but the code base was completely re-written for the new architecture and thus supports only a fraction of it's desktop brethern.
In the same way what power's the iPhone can only be a tailored version of the Os-X for the new device since the HAL,Device Driver framework,Peripherals...........etc are different.
To quote another example, let us take up the windowing sub-system.
You just do not have the Power of all the dedicated GPU's but only have a few bit-blt,line drawing.......etc in your LCD controller.Then
a)You need a new display driver model.
b)If you have a new display driver model your GWES goes for a spin
c)If GWES goes for a spin the middle ware gets shot at
d)if middle ware gets affected then......... (well you get the picture).
Now this only the display, if the hard-drive is replaced by a Flash (you need a FAL) then your file system management goes for a spin, and if you keep changing everything then you have a basically a new OS.There can never be full desktop compatablity between both the OS-X flavors.
Thus comparing OS-X on the iPhone with its desktop brother OS-X is like comparing WinCe with Windows XP ( Not that I assume that you know the difference between these anyway) and saying that both are windows and thus should be the same.
Learn some OS concepts first.
aryayush said:
2) No use saying it again and again to a person who moves two steps forward and then five steps back.
And somehow, apple not provding support for third party apps is supposed to be good ( How pathetic these mac boys get :
).Remember the Mac was defeated by Windows for precisely the same reason like the iPhone but then the macheads never liked history lesson anyway.
To see what Third party apps can do for a embedded device , see the silver light demo for WM and you get picture.
aryayush said:
3) We are not in America so it does not matter to us anyway. And even in America, people are making such a huge deal because it is an Apple product and everyone wants to lay their hands on one. However, they cannot if they do not switch to AT&T. So everyone is riled about this. But it is very common for phones to be locked to carriers in the US of A. At least, Apple is leveraging on that partnership and doing something innovative by giving visual voicemail. No other phone company has ever been able to influence phone carriers in the US, not even Nokia. This is Steve Jobs we are talking about.
I am not able to make any sense out of this, anyway who needs Visual E-Mail when you can do VOIP in a mobile (Yep this is comming).
aryayush said:
4) No, the phone costs $499 and &599. That's it. You cannot include the cost of your babysitting in the phone's price.
And I presume that you would buy and give me a Un-Locked phone for for $499 without any sh**ty data plane.If you do this then you are my best buddy (Hey I can sell this in version in Amazon and make quite a good profit).But then an Un-Locked iPhone will be at least $150 more which means , I can basically go for a iPhone insted of a HD TV. (But hey it is mac and we need to give money to steve jobs right ?)
aryayush said:
5) LOL! Refer to the second answer.
And what so so great in that answer ? Why should apple make money for the App which I write ?
aryayush said:
6) Who told you that? Oh yeah, it's a rumour. Great! Keep believing the rumours, you don't understand anything about what is happening in reality anyway.
It is not the windows guys who live in a dream since we are not the one to get carried away by a fancy UI and buy some device just because it looks cool.We will wait and see till it releases.
aryayush said:
7) Short battery life! You have used the phone already?
One of speciality is Power management in Windows Ce/Mobile and Linux devices and I have personally designed power management fpr some Windows Mobile reference designs.Unless apple has/had some breakthough in material science the phone will have a poor battery life.
For example do you know the power cosuption of a TFT Screen (with and without backlight), Power taken by a NAND flash controller........etc.Calculate everything then you will know the power requirements.Even with all the PM support WM devices are still plaged by poor battery life, lets see what apple comes up with.
aryayush said:
8) Oh, it is 2008! WOW! I have heard about time running fast, but this is insane. As for the lack of 3G, Steve Jobs expressly stated that a 3G version of the phone is in the pipeline. This is a first generation product. But anyway, let us concede one point. (Oh, and BTW, "It's 2008, still no 3G support" in India either so why are you grumbling about it!)
In europe,taiwan,korea (basically rest of the world except USA) are in 3G, try convincing them to buy this.
aryayush said:
9) I don't care if it does not even have a camera. You do not buy phones to snap pictures on your picnic outings. We have these devices they call cameras for that task. And it does not really matter to the business executives anyway.
You may not (being a mac guy this not entirelly expected), but all the OEM's I had spoken with wanted better Capture Interface and Nokia N-series/Sony cybershot will not sell if not for a camera.
Whether you like or not Good Camera in a mobile sells now a days.
aryayush said:
At the end of the day, it is not Apple but you who have no idea who this phone is for. It is not for businessmen with boring offices full of boring computers running boring Windows. It is for people who like style and class, have used a Mac and are willing to pay for a good experience. They may or may not be businessmen. It is not relevant.
And let me re-write what I undestood about the above statement "This iPhone is for Apple Fanboys, Rich kids with money to spend, Fashion guys who do no usefull work anyway and not for hard working professionals, people who want value for money and want a phone as a desktop replacement and these guys should go with WM" .And guess what I prefer targetting the phone for 80% users than 5% of users.
Wait isn't this senario same as the desktop story :
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I would like to repeat what I said, the only thing great about the iPhone is the UI and this is the most easiest thing to copy.People want expandability, compatabilty and bang for buck in their phones and nothing beats Wince/Mobile combo here.
WOW, what a crap OS!
