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Uttarakhand govt reject choopers from Gujrat Govt

icebags

Technomancer
Chattisgarh govt. has announced to Lend 1 Chopper as well alongwith sum of 5 Crores . Don't know if it happened for sure.
BTW , Gujarat govt. has good amount of resources , and MODI is well known for well management of resources.

1 chopper sounds reasonable, but 24 .....
well, read in today's newspaper (abp), center has made it clear that, the choppers for rescue op has to be arranged by uttarkhand govt itself, rest of the choppers will be provided by central govt., other state govts need not interfere.

its practically politics going on there, bjp vs congress, when the all skilled, highly trained air force pilots are having difficulty flying there, which commercial pilot will risk his/her life to go on in some highly risky op, which they had never trained for ?

AP Congress and TDP fighting for claim over survivors

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Hrishi

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Srk should be hanged to death..
Who is SRK ? :p

1 chopper sounds reasonable, but 24 .....
well, read in today's newspaper (abp), center has made it clear that, the choppers for rescue op has to be arranged by uttarkhand govt itself, rest of the choppers will be provided by central govt., other state govts need not interfere.
Is there a rule that says you can't help the needy ? Or it is just a embarrasment evading strategy of the party.
M_di might not be able to provide 24 choppers like he said , but even if he provides some relief funds and say 2-3 choppers , wouldn't that help at all ?

That seems more like a crime/negative decision to me , unless the govt. is doing more than required to aid.
 

rohit32407

Ambassador of Buzz
^^ From what I know it is never enough as far as aid is concerned. If 20 choppers can do the job in 10 days then 40 can do it in probably 5 days and so on. I am just saying that why there has to be a political, religious, caste or vote-bank divide? We call it a national disaster and yet politicians make it an 'state' or 'party' affair. It doesn't even make sense to me. Why call it national disaster when you don't want the whole nation included? Even 1 chopper help should have been taken. If after that modi had tried to do politics over it then the congress would have had the full right to condemn it and trust me people would have responded well to that condemnation.
 

ShankJ

Been There, Done That!!
1 chopper sounds reasonable, but 24 .....
well, read in today's newspaper (abp), center has made it clear that, the choppers for rescue op has to be arranged by uttarkhand govt itself, rest of the choppers will be provided by central govt., other state govts need not interfere.

its practically politics going on there, bjp vs congress, when the all skilled, highly trained air force pilots are having difficulty flying there, which commercial pilot will risk his/her life to go on in some highly risky op, which they had never trained for ?

They made it clear because they did not want help from Modi..
Not 24, even 10 would have been a great help..
 

icebags

Technomancer
They made it clear because they did not want help from Modi..
Not 24, even 10 would have been a great help..

air force is already using their best men and machines. commercial pilots are simply not trained for this.
the brand new copter that crashed, had on board radar & night vision equips installed, for taking out such critical ops at himalayan mountains, it still crashed.

(if modi really offered copters, he probably also knew they wont be flying in uttrakhand. its just politics. besides, renting a copter is expensive. takes few lacs for just a single day.)

Why do you want him hanged? Just because he hasn't provided aid yet (apparently)?

give me ur money or get hanged. :lol:
 
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Secularism and atheism are not mutually exclusive. An atheist party can be secular and a secular party can be atheist.

They are not mutually inclusive either... A secular party does not have to be aethist and viceversa. Secularism is the idea in which all religions are deemed equal and are respected. But Aethism is the idea which does not recognize religion in the first place. How can you respect a thing which you do not believe.
Also why would any person who beleives in religion beleive in an institution that does not reognize it or respect it?!

air force is already using their best men and machines. commercial pilots are simply not trained for this.
the brand new copter that crashed, had on board radar & night vision equips installed, for taking out such critical ops at himalayan mountains, it still crashed.

(if modi really offered copters, he probably also knew they wont be flying in uttrakhand. its just politics. besides, renting a copter is expensive. takes few lacs for just a single day.)
All the choppers wont have to be used for high altitude resuce operations (doing which the army chopper chrashed)... they can be used for logistics, movement for food, transporting people and goods.. etc..in places which are much safer.
And BTW Modi has the treasury and resources to provide the help he promised. Even though it is argubly to boost his good will before elections..there is no sane reason to reject help during such a calamity.
Did pakistan decline help from india/indians who was their arch-nemesis?!
 

Hrishi

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They are not mutually inclusive either... A secular party does not have to be aethist and viceversa. Secularism is the idea in which all religions are deemed equal and are respected. But Aethism is the idea which does not recognize religion in the first place. How can you respect a thing which you do not believe.
Also why would any person who beleives in religion beleive in an institution that does not reognize it or respect it?!


All the choppers wont have to be used for high altitude resuce operations (doing which the army chopper chrashed)... they can be used for logistics, movement for food, transporting people and goods.. etc..in places which are much safer.
And BTW Modi has the treasury and resources to provide the help he promised. Even though it is argubly to boost his good will before elections..there is no sane reason to reject help during such a calamity.
Did pakistan decline help from india/indians who was their arch-nemesis?!
This.
Indian Politics is just getting dirtier.
 

Extreme Gamer

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They are not mutually inclusive either... A secular party does not have to be aethist and viceversa. Secularism is the idea in which all religions are deemed equal and are respected. But Aethism is the idea which does not recognize religion in the first place. How can you respect a thing which you do not believe.
Also why would any person who beleives in religion beleive in an institution that does not reognize it or respect it?!

Simple- you don't even bother with religion. Because you do not recognize it, you don't even discuss it. Secularism doesnt force you to talk about religion. Nobody can say you disrespect religion if you do not even talk about it.
 

Ronnie11

Judgement Time!!
SRK had donated when there were floods in Porkistan right? Will he do the same for his Hindu countrymen?

LOL....yes off course lets bring religion into a disaster debate..why not discuss the argument about moving the 800 year old statue of god as a cause of rain while we are at it... :lol:
 

KDroid

Cyborg Agent
They are not mutually inclusive either... A secular party does not have to be aethist and viceversa. Secularism is the idea in which all religions are deemed equal and are respected. But Aethism is the idea which does not recognize religion in the first place. How can you respect a thing which you do not believe.
Also why would any person who beleives in religion beleive in an institution that does not reognize it or respect it?!

Well, Secularism's basic definition is indifference to or rejection or exclusion of religion and religious considerations.
 
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