Should I upgrade or not. If yes 35k PC or 60k PC.

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neo_natasha

Broken In
Hello, Before you guys read through the mundane list again. I just want to tell a few things why I've posted this in the first place.

* I have a P4 + 512 MB + FX5200 + 17" + 2.1 + 1 TB pc working fine.
* But one hell of a slow PC, I am so irritated and tired of waiting for the PC to catch to the actions.
* I may shift to the US next year (Read June or July), so its very confusing if I should really invest much on a PC now.
* I stopped gaming in the PC when NFS Pro Street came out. Thats when I knew my PC couldnt push any longer.

So why am I posting this?

I have no clue about how much should I spend to improve my PC experience. I am simply tired of my existing PC at the same time I am definitely not going to go all out on this upgrade as I may use this only for a year max. [If you want me to go all out on this PC, which I am ready to if I can sell the PC with a 10 to 15% loss]

Thank you !

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans:
Order of importance.

- Watch Full HD Movies
- Adobe Suite [Photoshop, Flash, Dreamweaver, Illustrator]
- 3D Rendering tools (No idea which tool, I am interested in learning these)

Optional
- Gaming (I am mentioning it as Gaming as I have lost track of new games, as I said before last game I tried was Pro Street :p, Would love to play GTA 4)

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans:
If you guys tell me to go for a soft upgrade just for Adobe + Movies (20 - 30k) [Would love to have a good IG]

All out upgrade if I can resell my PC in a year with 10 to 15% loss [60 - 70k]

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans:No [Reason is the room I have the PC gets dusty too often and temperature is very poor]

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans:Windows 64 Bit (8 once its out)

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: 500 GB (If Soft Upgrade, else 1 TB + 80 Gig SSD)

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans:Best Movie viewing experience is necessary (22 or 24 Full HD)

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: None. I plan to use the old PC as a download rig.

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: September

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: I have built many, I will build this one on my own.

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: Chennai. Open to buying from anywhere.

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: Nope Thanks again. If I missed anything I am sorry, let me know and I shall update it.
 
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acewin

Point Blanc
you can get a lappy for yourself that too will do the trick.
P4 are not slow they are antique items which cannot do anything
for laptop you have many good options from dell asus HP
get a lappy with FHD display, in india that wud be dell generally

in HP u can look at envy with core i5 in 50-60K range where as ASUS will be core i7

with global onsite warranty this forms the best option

Asus K53SM-SX130D / 2nd Generation Core i7 / 8 GB / 1 TB / DOS Laptop: Flipkart.com: Compare, Review Asus Notebook

*www.flipkart.com/computers/compare...PTYPGJKFMGB,COMDCMP262SXFSV6,COMD9SU6UG29VZCY
 
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panwala95

In the zone
you could also go for this and save some money
this gives some of the bigger lappies a run for their money.....
HP Pavilion G6-2005AX Laptop AMD A8 Quad Core/4GB/500GB/Win 7 HB/1GB Graphics: Flipkart.com: Compare, Review HP Notebook
 
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akky89

Journeyman
As others said a laptop will do you more good then a desktop as you can at-least carry it with you when you move.
That's being said, buy any latest laptop in range 30K-35K you can fulfill all your need with it..

And with personal experience don't go for hp with AMD, i have HP Pavilion DV6 and it heats up a lot i mean i just cannot use it without a cooling pad
so IMO go for another product. Rest is your choice :p
 
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neo_natasha

Broken In
Thank ace, panwala and akky. I have a laptop already but then again the personal use is 3 years old and my dad usually uses it. The office provided one is top notch but cant do squat with it due to restrictions. I definitely dont want a 3rd !

I would love a Macbook but its too costly here in india, once I shift will get one there. So I suppose going for an all out PC is out of the question. Cool. I will just search around the forum for 30k builds. By the way the sticky with configurations is not updated for a long time, any idea when that will be updated ?

EDIT: And I have an ipad2, PS3 too, so not interested in buying / upgrading those too.
 
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akky89

Journeyman
if you want to have a sub 30K build then use this one..
here you go...

cpu: i3-2100 @3.3GHz - 6.9K
mobo: GIGABYTE GA-H61M-DS2 - 3K
psu: CORSAIR SMPS-450 VS - 2.1K
RAM: Corsair DDR3 value 4 GB - 1.2K
hdd: wd carviar blue 500gb - 3.8K
monitor: LG 19" LED 1941 - 5.5K
gfx: amd hd 5570 - 3.2K (optional)

total: 25.7K
and for the cabinet you can have any which come around 1k making total to 26.7K or for some quality go for cooler master elite 310 - 1.7K raising the total to 27.4K
have fun!
 
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vkl

Cyborg Agent
@neo_natasha

For desktop config
ComponentProductPrice
ProcessorIntel i5 240010800
MotherboardIntel DH67CL5400
RAMCorsair Value Ram(1333MHz) 4GB*22400
HDDWD Caviar Blue 1TB5400
Optical DriveAsus DRW-24B5ST1100
Graphic CardMSI R7770-PMD1GD58000
SSDCorsair Force GT 120GB8200
PSUCorsair CX430V22500
CabinetNZXT source 210 elite2500
MonitorBenq g2222hdl8200
Mouse&KBLogitech MK200700
111111
Total=55.2k

For rendering a good cpu is handy.Final rendering is of 3d models is handled by the cpu even though viewport rendering can be done by the gpu.
A good gpu is important for faster viewports in 3D animation software like Maya.
A desktop is much more powerful than a laptop in the same price.Also it is more upgradeable.
 
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acewin

Point Blanc
also what kind of TV you have at home. more of if your TV display supports PC gaming ??
IMO no need to buy SSD, will not do much good, rather get 2 TB drive WD Caviar Green 2 TB HDD Internal Hard Drive (WD20EARX) | Internal Hard Drive | Flipkart.com
more space, SATA 3 drives performance is really good much better than age old HDDs.
get a better display like Dell Ultrasharp U2311 (hmm seems I am really acting as a dell sale person LOL, everywhere I suggest people to get it :) ) 14-15K

buy a decent keyboard and logitech G300 mouse (incase you are into games like counter strike). It is priced decently at 1.4-15K

you can add 2.1 speakers as well VS2621 by altec lansing or a preferably good headset, keep some budget for them as well in this config
Logitech Surround Sound Speakers Z506 - 8K in case you are looking at more than 2.1 speakers
 
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akky89

Journeyman
above builds are above 50k and are good builds but IMO if you are going to US for extended period of time then don't spend that much cause technology changes very very quick, go for smaller build you can make new build in US. But if you are going for relatively shorter period then 50-60K rig will be good.
rest is your choice, after all it's your money :p
 
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neo_natasha

Broken In
@vkl and acewin. I made up my mind not to go all out for the PC, so 50k is out of bounds. As I said in my first post if I can resell it I will buy it, but it looks like its not worth it. So I will stick to 30k configs. I can drop that PC and move on, wont bite my purse a lot. And yeah I have 32" LCD screen, it does support PC gaming, have played quite a lot. But I have the PS3 now so no plans of connecting a TV screen to play.

So are there cheaper alternatives to i5. I would rather invest more in a Monitor compared to a processor and I will totally rule out the SSD and Gcard. So that rules out gaming completely I guess
 
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panwala95

In the zone
akky89 said:
if you want to have a sub 30K build then use this one..
here you go...

cpu: i3-2100 @3.3GHz - 6.9K
mobo: GIGABYTE GA-H61M-DS2 - 3K
psu: CORSAIR SMPS-450 VS - 2.1K
RAM: Corsair DDR3 value 4 GB - 1.2K
hdd: wd carviar blue 500gb - 3.8K
monitor: LG 19" LED 1941 - 5.5K
gfx: amd hd 5570 - 3.2K (optional)

total: 25.7K
and for the cabinet you can have any which come around 1k making total to 26.7K or for some quality go for cooler master elite 310 - 1.7K raising the total to 27.4K
have fun!
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for 0.5k more you can get a lg e2060 or a dell 20' monitor
 
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akky89

Journeyman
panwala95 said:
for 0.5k more you can get a lg e2060 or a dell 20' monitor
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if you want to spend little more on monitor then take panwala95's advise and add few more bucks and get bigger and better monitor.
you can get that one or if you like spend a little more then get
DELL 22" LED ST2220M 1080p- 8.1K

cheers
 
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panwala95

In the zone
@ akky89 isnt a benq g2220 @ 7.1k a better deal?
dell monitors are known to have slow response times and arent usually recommended for gaming although their color reproduction is good...
 
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vkl

Cyborg Agent
panwala95 said:
@ akky89 isnt a benq g2220 @ 7.1k a better deal?
dell monitors are known to have slow response times and arent usually recommended for gaming although their color reproduction is good...
Click to expand...

Please refrain from posting generalized comments/statements.There is nothing like that.
Maybe you are talking about the IPS monitors which have higher response times.
 
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acewin

Point Blanc
@akky if you check it you will understand vkl is referring to panwala I think

8ms response time Ultrasharp monitors are really good for movies, animation and rendering softwares. They also hold good for strategy games and racing games, because of the eye candies, i.e. graphics where as 2ms response monitors or lesser response monitors are considered good for frag based games and other games as well.

As per my previous comment I meant I prefer Dell panels over other brands.

@OP 17 would be a CRT or LCD/LED, what kind of cabinet you have, maybe you can save up for cabinet by reusing it
akky's earlier posted config
cpu: i3-2100 @3.3GHz - 6.9K
mobo: GIGABYTE GA-H61M-DS2 - 3K
psu: CORSAIR SMPS-450 VS - 2.1K
RAM: Corsair DDR3 value 4 GB - 1.2K
hdd: wd carviar blue 500gb - 3.8K
monitor: LG 19" LED 1941 - 5.5K
gfx: amd hd 5570 - 3.2K (optional)

total: 25.7K

seems to be fine, with changes in display, gfx card.
also what about the 1TB HDD is it SATA2 ??, if yes do not buy a new HDD as well and reuse it, because you will not be interested in very high I/Os

yep selling out the P4 will not get u anything
 
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akky89

Journeyman
i missed that 1TB in OP's post.
acewin is completely right if you have 1TB sata 2.0 then reuse it in the build it'll save you few bucks... :)
 
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