Shane Warne or Mutthiah Muralitharan-who is a better spinner?

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Who is better?

  1. Murali

    19 vote(s)
    57.6%
  2. Warne

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    42.4%
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  1. abhijit_reddevil

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    They both are outstanding players in their own right. With Warne announcing his retirement from all forms of cricket yesterday, a void will surely be created in Australian cricket. Both are close to 700 wickets in tests, infact Warne is on 699.

    But due to unjust controversies regarding his doosra, my vote goes to Murali. Moreover, I don't like any of the Aussies. I hope that after Martyn, Warne and Mcgrath retiring and speculations about Mathew Hayden and Adam Gilchrist retiring after the Ashes, a dark void will be created in Oz cricket just like in the 80's.

    Following are Murali's and Warne's records. (Source: www.cricinfo.com)

    Shane Keith Warne:
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    Batting and fielding averages
    class mat inns no runs hs ave bf sr 100 50 4s 6s ct st
    Tests 143 197 16 3043 99 16.81 5351 56.86 0 11 338 35 124 0
    ODIs 194 107 29 1018 55 13.05 1413 72.04 0 1 60 13 80 0
    First-class 284 383 47 6444 107* 19.17 2 24 246 0
    List A 297 189 35 1819 55 11.81 0 1 119 0
    Twenty20 2 2 0 12 12 6.00 14 85.71 0 0 0 0

    Bowling averages
    class mat balls runs wkts bbi bbm ave econ sr 4 5 10
    Tests 143 40315 17818 699 8/71 12/128 25.49 2.65 57.67 48 36 10
    ODIs 194 10642 7541 293 5/33 5/33 25.73 4.25 36.32 12 1 0
    First-class 284 71811 32793 1260 8/71 26.02 2.73 56.99 63 11
    List A 297 15699 11088 452 6/42 6/42 24.53 4.23 34.73 20 3 0
    Twenty20 2 48 51 1 1/29 1/29 51.00 6.37 48.00 0 0 0

    Wisden Cricketer of the Year 1994
    One-Day International Player of the Year - 2000
    Selected as one of five Wisden cricketers of the century, 2000
    Test Player of the Year - 2006

    Muttiah Muralitharan:
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    Batting and fielding averages
    class mat inns no runs hs ave bf sr 100 50 4s 6s ct st
    Tests 110 144 49 1117 67 11.75 1613 69.24 0 1 129 24 59 0
    ODIs 282 132 49 480 27 5.78 687 69.86 0 0 31 6 112 0
    First-class 201 249 71 1990 67 11.17 0 1 109 0
    List A 359 166 61 655 27 6.23 0 0 132 0
    Twenty20 5 2 1 16 9 16.00 10 160.00 0 0 2 0

    Bowling averages
    class mat balls runs wkts bbi bbm ave econ sr 4 5 10
    Tests 110 36705 14649 674 9/51 16/220 21.73 2.39 54.45 40 57 19
    ODIs 282 15397 9866 425 7/30 7/30 23.21 3.84 36.22 11 8 0
    First-class 201 57244 22514 1197 9/51 18.80 2.35 47.82 104 31
    List A 359 19218 12043 539 7/30 7/30 22.34 3.75 35.65 13 10 0
    Twenty20 5 102 90 10 4/19 4/19 9.00 5.29 10.20 1 0 0

    Wisden Cricketer of the Year 1999
     
  2. Hustlerr

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    Of Course Shane Warne
     
  3. tarey_g

    tarey_g Hanging, since 2004..

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    Muttiah Muralitharan is not even a bowler , no comparison to warne.
    Shrilanka has growing number of throw ballers since they let play murli.
     
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    Murali definitely. He only has lesser wickets because he's played fewer matches. But is average is much better.
    Unlike Murali, Warne has never performed very well against India.
    Plus Murali had to go through hell when his action was questioned (by an Aussie umpire).

    @tarey: His action has been cleared by the ICC and everyone has made their peace with it except a certain Aussie umpire (who got kicked out of the elite panel this year).

    PS Didn't Shane Warne admit to giving information to a bookie along with Mark Waugh? IMO he should have been penalised just like the other cricketers implicated in match fixing.

    PPS As you can see I don't like the Aussies much. Arrogant, racist SOB's. I guess writing all this makes me a little racist too. ;-)
     
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    I just cant decide who is better, to me both are great.
     
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    abhijit_reddevil

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    ^^^Oops, I did not consider that option. Can I edit the poll options and add one more choice?
     
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    You guys must remember that murli is from the subcontinent where pitches are built for spinners. Moreover he has taken most of his wickets in his home turf. On the other hand Shane Warne has come from a background where spin is alien. So Shane is the best. No doubt about it.
     
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    murali is the best.
     
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    Shane Warne has taken many wickets against England who are really pathetic against spin. Even after 15 years they seem to have no clue on how to face him.
     
  10. ssk_the_gr8

    ssk_the_gr8 Make Way the LORD is Here

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    warne is better
    murli is from the subcontinent so he has tha advantage
    and his action seems like he chucks
     
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    for the thousand'th time , " MURALI DOESN"T THROW "

    he is a slightly better bowler than warne (look at his average)

    and also the doping episode reduced warne's reputation
     
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    I agree.
     
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    ICC does the (bowling)test in a controlled environment where the player who has been tested behaves in best possible manner and tries to pass the test. When it comes to real match the story is different. They dont have motion capture sensors over the players in a real match
    So I don't give damn to what ICC has to say abt his action , but it looks a clear throw ball to me. Also i can't remember the name of other Srilankan bowler who is even worse throw bowler. Shame to cricket.

    I have stopped watching cricket as the game has names a shohaib,murli etc

    Edit: i think the name of the other srilankan throw bowler is Malinga.
     
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    ssk_the_gr8 Make Way the LORD is Here

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    one more point people & a very important

    warne took so many wickets with good bowlers in his team they weren't sittin idle mcgrath , lee ,fleming ,gillespie & others they were also takin wickets
    but with murli there was only vaas just 1 good bowler
    and with murli playin more matches at tailor made pitches for spinners in the subcontinent warne has to be the best
     
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    Agree 100%
     
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    What about Shane Warne's escapades off the field !!
    Especially with females, Taking Banned Substances etc .....
     
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    ^^ we r talking about sports not considering how they are as a person . just consider their sports abilities.
     
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    No doubt, its Warney.. We are talking about a bowler and not about a javelin thrower as Bedi calls..

    He is the best bowler to have played cricket..
     
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    Since when we started believing in Bishen Bedi's comments.:D???
     
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    both r best...but when comparing I think murli will take over shane.
     
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