Quick look at Microsoft ZUNE 30GB

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  1. Choto Cheeta

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    After the initial scare from the Fedex I finally received my Microsoft ZUNE 30GB Video player… Lets take a quick look at the player and its functions….

    Qucik Details about the Product

    The Product : Microsoft Zune 30GB
    Product URL : Zune 30
    Technical Details : Zune 30 Tech Specs
    Price : Not available in India !!

    The Packaging

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    The Package contains bellow items.

    • The Quick Start Guide
    • The software CD
    • A velvate pouch for the Zune Player
    • The Zune Player
    • USB dock cable
    • Earphone

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    Installation

    As per manual its pretty straight forward…. Insert the software installation CD in the computer, start the installation, wait for the wizard to prompt you to connect the device and walla !!! start using it…

    But the reality was far from that !!!

    My system, E6600 / ASUS P5N-E SLi / 4 GB DDR-II / 8600 GT 256MB, in which I run Windows Vista x64 Ultimate…

    I followed the start guide, installation from the given CD went fine till when it asked me to connect the Zune with computer via USB… I found, I had hit a major bump… Windows was unable to find or install drivers for the player….

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    For a non technical user, it would had been end of happiness as no clue was there why the installation failed… but as soon as I browsed the CD content, as a pro user it had struck me that only x86 version of Zune software was given in the CD…. I feel the Installation wizard should have been detected the OS version and informed the user about the version incompatibility…

    Though having said that I would also add its quite expected that most of the users will be on Windows x86 platform…

    Zune web site did clarify that one would need different version of Zune software for Windows x64 platform…

    Download Zune x64 Software

    Installation of the Zune software was once again pretty straight forward, as expected now days, totally unattended…. One would need live Internet connection to continue the installation as it would download quite a few updates before it would continue the installation…

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    One thing to notice was the slowness of Microsoft update server… it took really long (about 2 hours) for the Zune software to obtain 35MB update for it self using my 2 mbps connection….

    How ever as soon as I connected the zune player to the system, this time around windows was able to detect and install drivers for the device…

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    Good thing to watch was Zune software it self prompt to update the firmware to the available latest version…

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    and once again I found that slow MS server it tool a lot of time to download the update….

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    One may watch this bellow youtube video on updating the firmware of the product… its exactly the same in my case too…

    Watch the youtube video…

    After the final reboot the Zune now was ready for use !!!

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    The Interface

    The OSD Interface :

    Good to see a straight forward OSD (On Screen Display) interface which will seem easy for all age group and technical or non technical users… Basic functions are really easy to access and operate !!! So it will get a plus point here from me….. !!!

    One big negative point is there is no on screen clock… I feel there should have been a OSD clock… I would home Microsoft includes a clock modules as soon as possible…

    The Computer Operation :

    I wont say that computer interface for the Zune software is easy for non Tech users, even I share the same idea for iTunes also… The Zune interface shares few common factors with iTunes… A lot of Drag and drop can be found where at Zune interface….

    Once you know the basic, which is Creating one Play list and simple drag and drop the music / pictures / movie files in it… Next you just connect the Zune and hit Synchronize button either at PC (in the Zune software) or in the Zune Player it self… All media files will get copied in it..

    Player Performance :

    To start with I would say Radio is great… Auto scanner works really cool and the receiver is also remarkably strong…

    The Ear phone which came with the Zune is some what pretty uncomfortable… However sound quality is as good as it is expected from a product like Zune…

    One major negative point I would say is lack of support to xvid / divx format !!! Though it would support MP4 / WMA but still I would say xvid is necessary for this line up… For an advance user finding an one click converting software like ImToo is not a big deal and with Core 2 Duo and X2 type high performance processors around converting the video its self has became really easy job…. How ever I would also add that a converter application (even its a paid one provided on trail) should have been bundled to over come the lack of format support…

    I liked the Multi Tasking, meaning it would continue to play the Radio or the MP3 while you can enjoy your picture slide show !!!

    What I really miss the Blue tooth… Product in this range should have an opiton for blue tooth too for users like me who would like to use blue tooth headsets for complete mobility… Once again I consider this as a major negative point for the device…

    Battery Performance :

    The player is suppose to provide upto 14 hours of playback time with Audio and Wifi Off.. and 4 hours of video with wifi off…

    I took near about 3 hours to show its fully charged and I stared using after the full charge…

    I played with the device the large 3″ display was on most of the time… I played radio and MP3 but I played some video too… But after 6 hours of wrestling with it I was really feeling the pain in my ears so I thought of give up as the battery still was showing about 40 % remaining !!! So not a bad performance….

    Verdict Time

    Pros that I found… Off course they are my personal opinion…

    • OSD Interface is really easy for all…
    • Good Battery Backup !!
    • Nice Mat finish design !! It feels good to hold the device in your hand…

    Few cons which I really think MS should over come as soon as possible…

    • Needs Blue tooth support
    • Default ear phone is one real unconformable one…
    • Xvid / Dvix Support is one must
    • A converter application should have been bundle…

    Over all I would say some how MS failed to generate the hype like iPod or iPhone as its not a bad product either… I would hope Zune comes to India soon and with some aggressive pricing it certainly has the potential to do good !!!

    thank you....
     
  2. ravi_9793

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    awesome review :)
     
  3. iMav

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    this is the 100$ wala zune v 1 its an absolute bang for the buck product .... the best part u can have the new firmware on it enjoy ur music sir ... o btw hav u tried the wi-fi syncing?

    super review
     
  4. infra_red_dude

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    Awesome review and very thotfully written (as always :) ). I'll look into this model as I wanna buy a PMP.

    BTW Saurav, is a Sony MiniDV cassette also included with the Zune package??! :D ;)
     
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    Its the old zune !!! :???: choto did you get this knowing its the old one?
     
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    awesome review choto bhaiya!
    @charan wat do u mean by old ZUNE.

    hey cheeta in how much did u purchased it. and how much time did it took for delivery?
    and also tel from where did u orded it!
     
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    Nice review Cheeta!
     
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    I think ZUne models are available with bluetooth as well. Any ideas.

    Nice review.
     
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    AFAIK....Zune doesnt come with bluetooth....they got only wi-fi

    @Saurav Da....superb review...bring it over during the next meet :D
     
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    Well it is the Version 1 but as I see not much hardware update was done in case of 30GB model... just the button layout was changed a little...

    Major Hardware update was done with ZUNE 80GB where it got largers display (from 3" to 3.2")

    now there are many software changes, but though MS is know not to provide such updates to the old versions to sell their new models, but still in this case with Firmware upgrade 2 all OLD zunes get all the new features of the New Zune v2 :D

    so not loosing much...

    :cry: my wifidongle is not working so didnt get the change yet... will test as soon as I replace it :D

    :lol: mistakenly did a right thing :lol:

    Actually the white plastic was waving a lot due to wind from the window so, hadto put some thing to stop it :lol: but it also gives you an idea how big the package was :D

    Microsoft site doesnt list it !!!!
     
  11. The_Devil_Himself

    The_Devil_Himself die blizzard die! D3?

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    nice review choto dada I also tried to review it but I wasn't confident enough so I put that in a hijacked thread(and not a new one):p.

    Look HERE if anybody is interested.
    -The radio reciever is good ,it detected all channels (about 10-11) here in Delhi but only 2-3 channels plays stereo sound indoors:(.

    -I have some registry keys(hardly 2-3kb) which will let you add more file types(not xvidd though) to be added to your zune software,but they will be converted to .wmv before going to your zune device.It just does away the need of a separate converter to some extent.

    one question:hey choto tell me do you connect your zune as guest?or have you formatted your zune to connect it as regular to your pc?Which firmware upgrade have you got(the latet 2.2 one).I am still on 1.2--I'll do a lot of research before upgrading.

    @choto:The bundled earphones fits absolutely good in my ears!!fits better than nokia's premium earphones.
     
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    @choto sir: the v2 has touch sensitive interface :D but what u have totally rox for the price ;)
     
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    :lol: I put that as Pros in my review... yaar driving a 3" display for 4 hours isnt a bad thing :p

    but again its all our personal opinion...

    but nice review there too...

    Yes one thing I have also noticed is, the battery comes totally empty !!! u have to chare before using where as most other devices come with atleast 60% of their battery :D

    As soon as u connect the device with Zune Software (download the new from my given link) it will ask you to upgrade the firmware and I already wrote...

    :D pretty fast and straight forward upgrade takes less than 1 mins to complete but after that its a whole new product :D

    and for information it is Zune 2.2 firmware which the software will download for u live from the MS server :D
     
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    The_Devil_Himself die blizzard die! D3?

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    touch sensitive or touch-screen?I dint know this.
    Btw are you talking about the touch sensitive squircle?yeah ver.1's squircle is not touch sensitive and the buttons need to be hard pressed.

    BTW Microsoft payed huge bucks for the names 'Zune' and 'squircle'.

    @choto:thanks dada,I've added those registry files if it helps.

    Just one more question:do you know about this guest thingy?Its there in my Zune device and software but I heard it has been done away in firmware upgrade 2.2,If it is that so I'll upgrade to version 2.2 ASAP.
     
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    opps didnt know as still the MS web site doesnt advertise that... if you be kind enough to please guide me to a link which would have details about this new Zune features :D

    thank you...

    We better post the pictures of our ears :lol: may be I have a different shape or may be you does :lol: :lol: as once again its personal feeling :lol:

    I have heard that too, few mishaps while upgrades, but do remember, make sure PC is virus free... and no AVS should run while u install the zune software or when u try to doc the device for the firmware upgrade...

    Rest should be fine... :D

    thnx for the keys... :D will test them as I get some time :d
     
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    congrats saurav !!!

    ur cool now;);)
     
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    touch sensitive means the suircle or watever devil said is touch sensitive u slide ur fingers up; down; right or left ;) (like ipod classic goes round and ound this goes up and down :D) dont have a link but had seen working vdos on gizmodo and engadget when it was released
     
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    hey whats that suppose to mean...

    I was always cool beside all other guys showing off their new Nokia N80 or N95 and Sony or such, where as I boldly continue to use my 8 year old Nokia n3315 :lol: :lol: :lol:

    yaar this device may harm the cause !!!!
     
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    yeah the new Zunes have touch sensitive 'squircle' like iPods.
     
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    How did you get your zune shipped to India and what was the extra cost? Can you please guide me how to get a Zune (My cousin in Saint Cloud has it) delivered to Bangalore?
     
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