PC Buying Guide 2011- Q4

topgear · Oct 23, 2011

sumesara said:
Anyone looking for good Cabby at budget NZXT source 210 is good cabinet... It is selling @2100 good if you can't find any Gamma....

It seems NZXT is trying to be the best at budget

where it's 2.1k ?? - it's 2.4k @ prime now.

Skud said:
Err, tg, its NZXT, not CM. No idea of price, but if 210 is 2100, the 210 elite (only difference is one USB 3 port) can't be more than 2500. And then 220 should settle between 3000-3500.

I think we will be taking a lot about these cabbies very soon.

thanks for the correction - edited my post ;-)

The price of NZXT Source 210 and NZXT Source 210 Elite is 2.4 and 2.9k respectively and there's some little difference between 210 Elite and 210 :

NZXT Source 210 Elite :

FRONT, 2 X 120mm
REAR, 1 X 120mm @ 1200rpm (included)
TOP, 2 X 120/140mm (1x 140mm included)
BOTTOM, 1 x 120mm

1 x Standard Audio/Mic, 1 x USB 3.0,1 x USB 2.0

NZXT Source 210 :

FRONT, 2 X 120mm
REAR, 1 X 120mm @ 1200rpm (included)
TOP, 2 X 120/140mm
BOTTOM, 1 x 120mm

1 x Standard Audio/Mic, 2 x USB 2.0

so with 210 Elite you are getting 1 USB 3.0 port + One top 140mm fan + one additional fan mounting option at front just by paying 500 bucks more which makes NZXT Source 210 Elite more VFM option ;-)

thetechfreak · Oct 23, 2011

Jaskanwar Singh said:
@thetechfreak
what do you think of this -

Component | Make | Price Processor |Intel Core i7 2600k|16300
CPU Cooler |CM Hyper 212+|1850
Motherboard |MSI Z68A-GD55 B3|9800
RAM |Gskill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL|3300
Graphic Card |ATI FirePro V4800|9500
HDD |Seagate 1TB 7200.12|2900
DVD Writer |ASUS 24X Sata Black DVD|1150
PSU |Seasonic S12II 520|3500
Case |NZXT GAMMA|2000
Monitor |Benq G2220HD|6950
Keyboard |Logitech Media Keyboard MK200|700
UPS |APC 800VA|2800
Speakers |Logitech Z313|1625
| Total |62375

I think its perfect

The Cooler will definitely help if the person wants to OC a little bit

In the 120k should we include the SSD or give a card costing around Rs.40k for rendering?

AMD FirePro V7800
Or lets say make it optional instead of the current GPU?

I think the Seasonic X 850 should be able to handle it? What do you say?

IS a cooler like Noctua NH-U12P-SE2 necessary in 100k+ rig? I think it will be good

Skud · Oct 23, 2011

topgear said:
where it's 2.1k ?? - it's 2.4k @ prime now.

thanks for the correction - edited my post

The price of NZXT Source 210 and NZXT Source 210 Elite is 2.4 and 2.9k respectively and there's some little difference between 210 Elite and 210 :

NZXT Source 210 Elite :

NZXT Source 210 :

so with 210 Elite you are getting 1 USB 3.0 port + One top 140mm fan + one additional fan mounting option at front just by paying 500 bucks more which makes NZXT Source 210 Elite more VFM option

Thanks for the info tg. This means the 220 would be somewhere in the range of 3.5k. Nice. And yeah, 210 Elite is more VFM.

RBX · Oct 23, 2011

My Dad recently purchased a PC, only cabinet and the contents inside (no Monitor, Keyboard, and stuff) at Rs. 21.5k.

The Cabinet is -
iBall Piano 126 with Power Supply
and components
View attachment 5441

He won't allow me to open and look inside for exact components.

How would you rate it on value for money ?

Nipun · Oct 23, 2011

^^

I guess he purchased it for office work. Its nice then, but if its for gaming, then its unbalanced

Also, seeing any iBall stuff on a PC automatically makes its quality low..

RBX · Oct 23, 2011

I guess it would work fine as he is mostly interested in surfing internet and playing RTS games.

I although envy him cause AOE 3 runs very smoothly on his config but extensively heats up (95 C) my XPS 15.

vickybat · Oct 23, 2011

Jaskanwar Singh said:
i am confused about price, for 13.2k this is the one available -
TheITWares - One Stop for all Gizmos!SAPPHIRE 100312-1GSR Radeon HD 6950 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity

will the price be same?

That one is the old single fan edition and its not good. The dual fan is good which you got after rma. Yes, i think locally the prices should be same because sapphire didn't go for a hike in the new model.

I think itwares didn't update their site. They should have revised to the dual fan edition cause the old single fan version isn't available anymore or is extremely rare to find.

Btw, i think its time to add msi gtx 570 TFIII in our buying guide.
N570GTX Twin Frozr III Power Edition/OC

This one is good and powerful card. Goes head to head with a 6970. Its factory overclocked as well. I think we can give it in the 70k rig in pc buying guide because both 60 and 70k has 6950 2gb dirt 3 edition. Imo there should not be a 70k rig but a 75k one because there's little difference between current 60k and 70k ones.

This one would be a wonderful choice imo. Besides tfIII version has no vrm issues.

It should look like the following:

Sub 70k (High end gaming)

d6bmg · Oct 23, 2011

@thetechfreak: Buddy, re-edit your 60K post. It's still written i5-2500K instead of 2600K. It may create confusion about the price among newcomers.

RazorbladeXtreme said:
My Dad recently purchased a PC, only cabinet and the contents inside (no Monitor, Keyboard, and stuff) at Rs. 21.5k.

The Cabinet is -
iBall Piano 126 with Power Supply
and components
View attachment 5441

He won't allow me to open and look inside for exact components.

How would you rate it on value for money ?

Its good for office work.

topgear · Oct 24, 2011

We need to recalculate the config prices as HDD Prices has Increased :

Seagate 500GB @ 2.9k
Seagate 1TB @ 3.7k
Seagate 2TB @ 5.1k

these prices are from delta peripherals

Now a 500GB 7200.12RPM 16MB Cache Seagate Drive ( ST3500413AS ) costs $55 on newegg which is 2,751.35 INR and a Seagate 2TB 5900RPM Green HDD price ( ST2000DL003 ) is $100 on newegg which is 5,002.46 INR.

Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARS 2TB costs $120 on newegg which is 6,002.95 INR and Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARX 2TB 64MB costs $125 on newegg which is 6,253.07 INR.

So it's not only rupee became weaker compared to dollar but HDD manufacturers also have increased the price of HDD - the best price is Seagate drives still costs less and looks like the best VFM option right now ;-)

The Sorcerer · Oct 24, 2011

I've heard 3-4 GTX560TI hawks in the past 2 weeks dying out for no reason. They're pretty new ones- round about less than 2 months. Its the newer ones apparently that have issues. Can't really pinpoint it because they're using newer VX450s which has serious quality issues and then Corsair XMS3 1333MHz cl9 kits that don't really have a good lifespan. Not sure of the GPU, but stop recommending VX450s and Corsair xms3 kits.

Skud · Oct 24, 2011

topgear said:
We need to recalculate the config prices as HDD Prices has Increased :

Seagate 500GB @ 2.9k
Seagate 1TB @ 3.7k
Seagate 2TB @ 5.1k

these prices are from delta peripherals

Now a 500GB 7200.12RPM 16MB Cache Seagate Drive ( ST3500413AS ) costs $55 on newegg which is 2,751.35 INR and a Seagate 2TB 5900RPM Green HDD price ( ST2000DL003 ) is $100 on newegg which is 5,002.46 INR.

Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARS 2TB costs $120 on newegg which is 6,002.95 INR and Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARX 2TB 64MB costs $125 on newegg which is 6,253.07 INR.

So it's not only rupee became weaker compared to dollar but HDD manufacturers also have increased the price of HDD - the best price is Seagate drives still costs less and looks like the best VFM option right now

Report says that the Thailand floods will be taking its toll on HDDs in next year too. Got my upgrades in time.

vaibhav23 · Oct 24, 2011

RazorbladeXtreme said:
My Dad recently purchased a PC, only cabinet and the contents inside (no Monitor, Keyboard, and stuff) at Rs. 21.5k.

The Cabinet is -
iBall Piano 126 with Power Supply
and components
View attachment 5441

He won't allow me to open and look inside for exact components.

How would you rate it on value for money ?

The pc is quite good for office work but you could only play games that are 2 to 3 yrs old with good fps.For newer games you will have to play at lowest possible settings

d6bmg · Oct 24, 2011

The Sorcerer said:
Not sure of the GPU, but stop recommending VX450s and Corsair xms3 kits.

Lately, build quality of vx series have been deteriorated too much.

nilgtx260 · Oct 24, 2011

I have been using vx550 since 2 years & still haven't found any problem

Aswath Kumaravel · Oct 24, 2011

prices are goin up like anythin here.... the price of 1tb barracuda has went up from 2700 to 3100 :?:

yesterday and today its 4700 :!:

... i donno whats happenin.. is there any sign of price comin down??
and this is the price from the cheapest retailer here....
if its on this hike i can neva buy my 45k pc in the near future

Extreme Gamer · Oct 24, 2011

prices are going up because of thailand floods.

most HDD making factories in thailand are closed so demand cannot meet supply

d6bmg · Oct 25, 2011

Aswath Kumaravel said:
prices are goin up like anythin here.... the price of 1tb barracuda has went up from 2700 to 3100 yesterday and today its 4700... i donno whats happenin.. is there any sign of price comin down??
and this is the price from the cheapest retailer here....
if its on this hike i can neva buy my 45k pc in the near future

Well, its just started to going upwards. Give some time, and lets hope for the best!

topgear · Oct 25, 2011

Skud said:
Report says that the Thailand floods will be taking its toll on HDDs in next year too. Got my upgrades in time.

^^ nice timing ;-)

Jaskanwar Singh · Oct 25, 2011

damn HDD prices

-
*www.theitwares.com/hard-drives-internal-hard-drives-c-101_31_55.html
*www.smcinternational.in/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=42&Itemid=104

BTW msi prices are up too -
*mdcomputers.in/msi.html

thetechfreak said:
I think its perfect
The Cooler will definitely help if the person wants to OC a little bit

In the 120k should we include the SSD or give a card costing around Rs.40k for rendering?

AMD FirePro V7800
Or lets say make it optional instead of the current GPU?

I think the Seasonic X 850 should be able to handle it? What do you say?

IS a cooler like Noctua NH-U12P-SE2 necessary in 100k+ rig? I think it will be good

i think a card will do better, SSD optional. what say? what others say here?

and what about a keyboard mouse combo? something from these -
*www.theitwares.com/keyboards-keyboard-mouse-combo-c-101_38_115.html
or MK200 will do?

something like this -

Optional upgrades for 120k -

Component | Make | Price SSD |OCZ 120 GB Agility 3 SATA III|12500

vickybat said:
That one is the old single fan edition and its not good. The dual fan is good which you got after rma. Yes, i think locally the prices should be same because sapphire didn't go for a hike in the new model.

I think itwares didn't update their site. They should have revised to the dual fan edition cause the old single fan version isn't available anymore or is extremely rare to find.

Btw, i think its time to add msi gtx 570 TFIII in our buying guide.
N570GTX Twin Frozr III Power Edition/OC

This one is good and powerful card. Goes head to head with a 6970. Its factory overclocked as well. I think we can give it in the 70k rig in pc buying guide because both 60 and 70k has 6950 2gb dirt 3 edition. Imo there should not be a 70k rig but a 75k one because there's little difference between current 60k and 70k ones.

This one would be a wonderful choice imo. Besides tfIII version has no vrm issues.

It should look like the following:

Sub 70k (High end gaming)

Component | Make | Price Processor |Intel Core i5 2500k|11200
Motherboard |MSI Z68A-GD55|9800
RAM |Gskill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9S-4GBXL|1650
Graphic Card |MSI GTX 570 TFIII P.E/OC|20900
HDD |Seagate 1TB 7200.12|2900
DVD Writer |ASUS 24X Sata Black DVD|1150
PSU |SeaSonic SS-850AT|6300
Case |Lancool PC-K62 Black/Corsair Carbide 400R|5250
Monitor |Benq G2220HDL|7000 - Yes the led version is 7k now and is confirmed by my friend who recently bought it at that price in delhi. Mouse |Logitech MX-518|1450
Keyboard |Logitech Media Keyboard K200|400
Mouse Pad |Razer Goliathus Fragged Omega S - Speed/Control|500
UPS |APC 1.1KVA|4300
Speakers |Edifier C2|3200
| Total |APPROX 75000

ok i will add 1GB.
and nice price of G2220HDL.

what about just optional upgrade of 70k?
as for adding just 570gtx we will not need to create a 75k.

60k and 70k have differences in terms of mobo, cabinet, psu, ups and now 6950 1GB and 2GB.

topgear said:
We need to recalculate the config prices as HDD Prices has Increased :

Seagate 500GB @ 2.9k
Seagate 1TB @ 3.7k
Seagate 2TB @ 5.1k

these prices are from delta peripherals

Now a 500GB 7200.12RPM 16MB Cache Seagate Drive ( ST3500413AS ) costs $55 on newegg which is 2,751.35 INR and a Seagate 2TB 5900RPM Green HDD price ( ST2000DL003 ) is $100 on newegg which is 5,002.46 INR.

Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARS 2TB costs $120 on newegg which is 6,002.95 INR and Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARX 2TB 64MB costs $125 on newegg which is 6,253.07 INR.

So it's not only rupee became weaker compared to dollar but HDD manufacturers also have increased the price of HDD - the best price is Seagate drives still costs less and looks like the best VFM option right now

so i will need to make some rigs again :-(

Extreme Gamer · Oct 25, 2011

An OCZ Revodrive 3 series will be more useful to workstations. The OCZ Agility uses less reliable Asynchronous 25nm MLC chips, so it is not a good idea for workstations.
You should put at least the Vertex 3 MAx IOPS SSD if not revodrive because it uses Synchronous 32nm chips which have approximately double the read-write cycles.

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