Looking for i7 based PC (without display)

ravisagar

Broken In
1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: Audio/Video editing, Designing in Corel, PS, GIMP, Running web server (apache), PHP Programming, I am not into gaming at all.

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: 50k

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: Probably not.

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Windows 7 and Linux dual boot

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: 500GB is fine for me

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans: Already have 20" TFT

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: keyboard, mouse

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: Jan 13

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: Will buy it from Nehru Place

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: Yes I think so I can buy online

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: Yeah, I would prefer to buy i7 sandy bridge (may be better) with 16GB RAM. Not sure if this is too much for my requirements but I need system that can be upgraded later so I dont need to buy any new PC for 2-3 years.
 

panwala95

In the zone
for your need s i feel a fx 8350 will be better (and cheaper) than an i7 3770k
fx 8350-12.5k
ASRock 990FX Extreme4 Motherboard-10.2k
corsair value ram -2x4gb-2k
corsair cx 430v2-2.2k
asus dvd drive -1k
cm elite 430-3k
zotac gtx 650ti-10.5k
wd caviar blue 500gb-3.5k
total-44.9k
 

Cilus

laborare est orare
Asrock 990FX Extreme 4 is not a good motherboard for the price. It offers only 4+2 VRM design, sometimes available at 5K Gigabyte boards. Get MSI 990FX-GD65 at 9K or Gigabyte GA-990FX-UD3 @ 9.5K. In fact OP can opt for Asus M5A97 @ 6.6K and get a more powerful GPU like Gigabyte/Sapphire HD 7850 2 GB around 14K. Also one of our forum members has purchased FX-8350 in Nehru Place @ 11.4K.

Even if you are not into gaming, I strongly recommend you to get Gigabyte HD 7850 1 GB @ 12.7K or at least MSI HD 7770 @ 7.8K. Applications like Corel, PhotoShop, GIMP do support GPU acceleration through OpenCL and AMD HD 7000 series cards do have better performance here over the Nvidia 600 series cards.
 
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ravisagar

Broken In
Hi,

Thanks for the reply.

I would prefer i3 3rd generation (or i7). However the options you mention will be available in nehru place or I need to buy online as I dont know how to assemble.
 

panwala95

In the zone
these prices are quoted from smc international which is in nehru place
and @ cilus i think that the op has any need of a hd 7850
heck even i did a mistake by recommending a gtx 650 ti
so @ravisagar you can reduce the amout you spend by simply going for a gt 610 @ 2.4k
edit- also an i3 (even 3rd gen) would pale iin comparison to the fx 8350
so unless you go for the top of the line i7 3770k ithink intel is not an option for you
 

Cilus

laborare est orare
I have edited my 1 st post here and check why I have suggested him a GCN based card.

Regarding choice of Processor, FX-8350 is the flagship processor from AMD, armed with 8 Cores. In Multi-threaded applications, it most of the times beat the higher end Core i5 3570K and i3 3220 is simply not a match for it. Buddy, i3 3220 is a dual core processor and good for gaming. But for Multi-threaded applications, even a 9K FX-8120 will beat the hell out of it.
 
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ravisagar

Broken In
Just summing up. I didnt get which motherboard you recommended?

CPU: fx 8350-12.5k
MotherBoard:
RAM: corsair value-2x4gb-2k
PSU: corsair cx 430v2-2.2k
Cabinet: Cooler Master elite 430-3k
GPU: Gigabyte/Sapphire HD 7850 2 GB
HDD: wd caviar blue 500gb-3.5k

1. BTW this would be better than i3 3rd generation? Why didnt you recommend that. Sorry for stupid question :p
2. Would it make sense if I get 16GB RAM?
 

panwala95

In the zone
you can go for 16gigs but afaik its still to expensive to be considered so 8gb should do for now and @cilus didnt see gcn angle thanks for the tip ;)
 
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ravisagar

Broken In
Ok so you recommended MSI 990FX-GD65 at 9K or Gigabyte GA-990FX-UD3 but which one you suggest for my needs? and if I go for 16gb I think the whole system will still be within 50k.

*****configurations finalized so far****
CPU: fx 8350-12.5k
MotherBoard:
RAM: corsair value-2x4gb-2k
PSU: corsair cx 430v2-2.2k
Cabinet: Cooler Master elite 430-3k
GPU: Gigabyte/Sapphire HD 7850 2 GB
************
 

panwala95

In the zone
i would suggest you go the msi variant cause it has a better rma base in india and also gigabytes are known to fail as seen in this forum
so the ball is in your court . YOU DECIDE
 

Cilus

laborare est orare
I think you should go with Asus M5A97 @ 6.6K and save the rest of the money. Since the system is not for gaming or OP is not going for Multi-GPU setup in future, a good AMD 970 Chipset based will serve all the purposes. It also offers very high build quality and ASUS RMA service has been improved now a days.

For Ram, get a two 8GB (2 X 8 GB)Corsair Vengeance 1600 MHz stick @ 2.7K X 2 (Flipkart) with the money saved from the Motherboard purchase.

For Cabinet, my choice will be NZXT Source 210 Elite @ 2.6K. It offers 1 front USB 3.0 port, plenty of places, good build quality and very good cable management. Check theitwares.com for Online purchase.
 

panwala95

In the zone
@cilus would oing for 4x4gb cosair value ram @ 4k save the op some money?
and i still feel that the msi mobo and the 990fx chipset in general is better
 

somebodysme

Journeyman
Intel i5-3450 11.5
Gigabyte GA-H77M-D3H 5.5
G.Skill RipjawsX(1600MHz) DDR3 4GB*2 3.2
cm elite 430 3
Corsair GS600 4.5
Seagate 500GB 3.5
MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5-OC* 16.1

Total 47.3
 

anirbandd

Conversation Architect
Intel i5-3450 11.5
Gigabyte GA-H77M-D3H 5.5
G.Skill RipjawsX(1600MHz) DDR3 4GB*2 3.2
cm elite 430 3
Corsair GS600 4.5
Seagate 500GB 3.5
MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5-OC* 16.1

Total 47.3

:facepalm:

do you even read the requirements of the OP?? he says NO gaming... and the applications he is going to run are multi core oriented, so fx8350 are better suited than i5.
 

Sainatarajan

Wise Old Owl
@somebodysme OP clearly mentioned that He needs the pc for extensive apps to run and not for other tasks like gaming.
The ASUS M5A97 would be the best .
+1 to Cilus .
You can spend the rest of the money to get a 16 gigs RAM.
 

Cilus

laborare est orare
I already suggested him 16 GB ram (8GB X 2).

The reason of suggesting him a premium 1600 MHz Ram over a value series 1333 MHz Ram is that the Memory Controller of Bulldozer and PileDriver CPUs has native support for 1866 MHz ram and can handle higher frequency efficiently. In fact Toms Hardware has performed a test with FX-8150 where they have observed that FX processors respond very well with the higher speed memory. Now RipjawX, Vengeance all these 1600 MHz modules can run at higher speed and hence will offer better performance.
I myself running my RipjawX 1600 MHz to 1866 MHz speed (Check my siggy) and there are good performance enhancement. I tested it using AIDA 64 Extreme 2.7 Benchmark.
 

panwala95

In the zone
yup agrre with @cilus plz read the ops requirements and pay attention next time
yup read some reviews of the m597a and it is one of the better mobos for the 970 chipset
 

hitman4

In the zone
:facepalm:

do you even read the requirements of the OP?? he says NO gaming... and the applications he is going to run are multi core oriented, so fx8350 are better suited than i5.
i think he was in a hurry to answer the question and hence couldn't read the question.. l:pl

@Op just an advice if you are going to buy from nehru place then do take quotes from as many shops as you can and then compare and then buy.
My friend bought his rig from 5 different shops which saved him around 3 to 4k.
 

somebodysme

Journeyman
FYI
Intel Core i5-3570K Image Editing and Video Encoding | bit-tech.net
AMD FX-8350 Image Editing and Video Encoding Performance | bit-tech.net

I just gave him an intel alternative, just because I am not a fan of team RED
and I didn't suggested him K series coz OP doesn't want to overclock..
 

Cilus

laborare est orare
But you have suggested him i5 3470, not 3570K.


Now regarding the review you have posted, I was taken aback by the results, especially in Media Encoding using Handbrake. Also was hurt a little as someone called me a FanBoy for the 1st time. In this Bit-Tech review, FX-8350 was badly beaten by all i5 processors, even by i5 2400. So I tried the other sites like Tomshardware, Anandtech and Guru3d.

Here are the results:-

Tomshardware
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Anandtech
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somebodysme , I guess you understand now why we rely upon some trusted site, not any sites who can publish a review in Web site.
 
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