One of my friend bought an AMD 3000+ venice along with ASUS A8N VM board and Simtronics mem 2x256 @ 2-3-2-6(wow!). First without OCing his normal temp was 34~36 when idle and max upto 40~41 when at load. I persuaded him to overclock nd he achieved 2.3 from 1.8 nd he was shocked with the temp like 54~56!!!. So I set it back at 1.8 but the problem is that now his idle/load temp has raised much to 38~40/48~52!!!!. Now even wothout ocing the temp is high nd he is blaming me for this. What should I do?? Now my new X2 4200+ has idle temp of 36~37 nd 46~47 at full load. Even after ocing from 2.2 to 2.6 its safe at 51max at full load(both core at full load by CPU tester pro). My temp will be normal if I set the stock speed. PLZ help me to solve his problem. ALSO WHAT IS THE USUAL TEMP OF AMD 64 AT IDLE ND LOAD BEFORE AND AFTER NORMAL OCING???AND WHAT IS THE HIGHEST SAFE TEMP??? [both of us has adequate case cooling with 5x80 mm fans.