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Interstellar (2014) Movie Discussion *Spoilers Ahead*

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rajatGod512

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How come Brand did not age? Since she did not go into the black hole, she should have aged a lot more compared to Cooper.

Time was still when Cooper was inside the black hole (The Tesseract) , time was a physical dimension on a 3D word there . But when they were circling the black hole , Brand said that , that particular maneuver would cause them about 51 years (due to gravity time dilation) , since both of them coop and brand were in the ship when that happened , neither would age . It was never completely stated that love was a 5th dimensional thing , the thing said by Brand were most probably due to her being responsible for the event on that water planet and she wanted to go to edmunds planet because she loved him .

The future humans would have wanted the present humans to struggle for their survival , as it is said we are better when we are down . The equation were not solved in like a day , but the insight from the blackhole and wormhole and the other planets and the working of gravity in them , helped to create something which would launch shuttle as big as cities , remember 51 years have passed when Murphy finds the watch and when we see the space shuttles in the end.

To creating the wormhole and black hole, Dr. Kip Thorne collaborated with VFX supervisor Paul J. Franklin and his team at Double Negative. Thorne provided pages of deeply sourced theoretical equations to the team, who then created new CGI software programs based on these equations to create accurate computer simulations of these phenomena. Some individual frames took up to 100 hours to render, and ultimately the whole CGI program reached to 800 terabytes of data. The resulting VFX provided Thorne with new insight into the effects of gravitational lensing and accretion disks surrounding black holes, and led to him writing two scientific papers: one for the astrophysics community and one for the computer graphics community.


I can go on and on ... on your "Questions" ...
 
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Sarath

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I really liked the movie. Wish I had watched it in IMAX.

The only people I think will be disappointed with the movie will be people who have absolutely no knowledge of physics or otherwise too much of it
 
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rajatGod512

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I still am confused what caused the tides on the first planet.

It wasnt stated , but I think it was due to the Gravitational pull of the black hole (Gargantua) . Like the tides on earth due to moon's gravitational effect .


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The only question I have is how did those space shuttle even lift of that planet , when they needed big rockets to lift of on earth . (asked earlier by icebags)
 

thetechfreak

Legend Never Ends
Re: Movies Discussion Thread V1: Ratings and Opinions

Interstellar: Interstellar (2014) - IMDb


10/10 from my side.


People say some of the "Science" isn't valid. Yes it isn't hence the Sci-Fi genre. Probably the best movie I've ever seen. Absolutely loved it. Great performance from the cast with a stunning soundtrack from Hans Zimmer. This is one movie I'll be remembering for years to come.
 

Anorion

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I can go on and on ... on your "Questions" ...

yep... I can go on with more questions too :p try the hard ones, the planet atmospheric composition question and the Murphy's law question.

Yeah it was never clearly stated that love was a 5th dimensional artifact, but that bit was not clear. Even the explanation video has no clue what love was doing there. How did Coop manage to navigate to the right time frame to get the message across in the black hole by "using love" after Tars said it was difficult?

thing is right before the final sling-shot maneuver, the one where Coop sacrifices himself (were both of us talking of the same maneuver?), Murph and Brand were of a particular age. After the maneuver, Murph aged like I donno, 50 years maybe (no clue, you said that), basically she went from being Coop's age to being an old woman. But Brand didn't age at all, still Coop spent more time close to the Singularity than Brand, so Brand should have aged. This is the movie's own logic, can't argue this with science also.

find it hard to believe that future humans had to resort to communicating through a current human via binary/morse via a bookshelf/watch without finding a more direct way of communicating by "using gravity"

yep, just because they got the black hole right, does not mean they got everything else right in the movie.

PS that explanation of the movie is wrong in places too.. the astronauts don't intend to bring up the first generation of the "population bomb" it's automated with machines and incubators
but the animation of the wormhole is perhaps more accurate than the movie

all the "science" in the movie has been conveniently wrapped around the convoluted plot, for enhancing the intensity and drama. That's fine, nothing wrong in that, but the danger is that this is only going to give you the vaguest ideas of some concepts, and misinformation or exaggerated ideas about others.
 

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Re: Movies Discussion Thread V1: Ratings and Opinions

[MENTION=57860]thetechfreak[/MENTION]: You know there's an interstellar thread linked two post above you right? Maybe you shouldn't post in night. :p
 

petergriffin

I Am A Potato Enthusiast
Loved the movie 9/10
awesome soundtrack,dialogues and plot .
Christopher Nolan Responds to Complaints About 'Interstellar' Science
Christopher Nolan Responds to Complaints About 'Interstellar' Science - Hollywood Reporter
“My films are always held to a weirdly high standard for those issues that isn’t applied to everybody else’s films — which I’m fine with,” the director told The Daily Beast about online complaints about the science behind his new movie. “[The science is] all buttoned-up, and Kip [Thorne, astrophysicist and Interstellar’s science adviser] has a book on the science of the film about what’s real, and what’s speculation — because much of it is, of course, speculation.”
 

sam_738844

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no man can survive spaghetti-phication while crossing event horizon. The insane gravitational pull at the head of the falling man and at his feet would be godly, not only the magnitude, but also, the difference between them, that would instantly tear the body apart.

Unless the blackhole is a super-massive blackhole and its SC radius is considerably big, but then again, a super-massive blackhole is surrounded by accretion disks emitting explosions of 100 suns, colliding star mass, gamma ray and x ray radiations, super magnetic storms, nova and unimaginable amount of swirling high velocity gas and plasma and remnants of planets and debri and what not! its not like anyone can go there with a spaceship unhindered and gracefully, maneuvering their ship as much as they like inside that s#itstorm.
 

Anorion

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^yep the tidal forces ripped apart the ship, but Cooper and Tars survived
Christopher Nolan Responds to Complaints About 'Interstellar' Science
Christopher Nolan Responds to Complaints About 'Interstellar' Science - Hollywood Reporter

Good he admits it himself. Of Course we hold him to higher standards.
The problem is how dumb this movie is compared to The Prestige or Inception, there is so much more to these films and what is going on, they use allegories, and there are layers of meanings, there are so many possible interpretations, was looking forward to all of that in Interstellar and missed it :(


Interstellar science review: The movie’s black holes, wormholes, relativity, and special effects.
 

thetechfreak

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Re: Movies Discussion Thread V1: Ratings and Opinions

You know there's an interstellar thread linked two post above you right? Maybe you shouldn't post in night. :p
I'll be starting a fire if I post there. So I just posted here.
 

Vyom

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Re: Movies Discussion Thread V1: Ratings and Opinions

I'll be starting a fire if I post there. So I just posted here.

If fire you expect, fire you should get. But in the thread where it deserves. Hence moving these posts to appropriate thread.
 

kunalgujarathi

Cyborg Agent
The movie is like any sci-fi movies.
You cannot argue if this is wrong or write.
The plot is based on Hawkings theory.
Anyways Blackholes and warmholes are complete mystery.

But what makes this film good is its plot;its something new, and everyone likes to hear a new story.
Cheers to Christopher Nolan!
 
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rajatGod512

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thing is right before the final sling-shot maneuver, the one where Coop sacrifices himself (were both of us talking of the same maneuver?), Murph and Brand were of a particular age. After the maneuver, Murph aged like I donno, 50 years maybe (no clue, you said that), basically she went from being Coop's age to being an old woman. But Brand didn't age at all, still Coop spent more time close to the Singularity than Brand, so Brand should have aged. This is the movie's own logic, can't argue this with science also.

Watch it again , Brand said that , it will cause THEM 50 years , The TIME was Still in the singularity , no time had passed relative to earth when cooper was in the Tesseract .

Cooper had an infinite amount of time to find that particular time frame .

Someone made this infographic , take a look :

Interstellar-Explained.jpg

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no man can survive spaghetti-phication while crossing event horizon. The insane gravitational pull at the head of the falling man and at his feet would be godly, not only the magnitude, but also, the difference between them, that would instantly tear the body apart.

Unless the blackhole is a super-massive blackhole and its SC radius is considerably big, but then again, a super-massive blackhole is surrounded by accretion disks emitting explosions of 100 suns, colliding star mass, gamma ray and x ray radiations, super magnetic storms, nova and unimaginable amount of swirling high velocity gas and plasma and remnants of planets and debri and what not! its not like anyone can go there with a spaceship unhindered and gracefully, maneuvering their ship as much as they like inside that s#itstorm.

Well in the Science of Interstellar video Kip Thorne basically said that the spaghetti stretching is the most common theory the people know about Blackholes , but may not be entirely true . Here , Black Hole portion starts around 18:20 . Plus , IMO the black was artificial put there by "them" .



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^yep the tidal forces ripped apart the ship, but Cooper and Tars survived


Good he admits it himself. Of Course we hold him to higher standards.
The problem is how dumb this movie is compared to The Prestige or Inception, there is so much more to these films and what is going on, they use allegories, and there are layers of meanings, there are so many possible interpretations, was looking forward to all of that in Interstellar and missed it :(


Interstellar science review: The movie’s black holes, wormholes, relativity, and special effects.

Prestige was meh , in a very realistic setting from the begining they throw in the human fax copier thing in the third act , really come on (It was based on book and the book had the same thing , so eh ) .Inception on the other hand is one of my favorite of all time . :D

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I'll be starting a fire if I post there. So I just posted here.

Have we started the Fire ?

Yes , The Fire Rises .... :p



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To really get 'Interstellar,' you'll have to read Kip Thorne's book
 
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Anorion

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yep saw the infographic.
How to navigate by love in a Tesseract? Do you have some kind of compass inside you that pushes you to the right time frame? Also really asking, not poking holes, but what did Tars see in the Black hole / Tesseract, because it was obviously not what Cooper saw, did he get to a naked singularity, if so how?
Cooper should have aged as he approached the Tesseract, not when in it. It's also the difference between how much Brand aged and how much Murph (and everyone else on earth) aged, that can't be right no matter how you look at it.
 
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rajatGod512

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yep saw the infographic.
How to navigate by love in a Tesseract? Do you have some kind of compass inside you that pushes you to the right time frame? Also really asking, not poking holes, but what did Tars see in the Black hole / Tesseract, because it was obviously not what Cooper saw, did he get to a naked singularity, if so how?
Cooper should have aged as he approached the Tesseract, not when in it. It's also the difference between how much Brand aged and how much Murph (and everyone else on earth) aged, that can't be right no matter how you look at it.

ughh , you cant understand it can you , its a very simple thing . The time they passed (Brand and Cooper) was relative to time on earth .

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What can you do , when Mods do this :x .

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