Finally blasted through Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of liberty on my PS2. It took about 18 hrs. Forget half life 2, forget doom 3. Those are simply over hyped games. All I can say is that- u simply have to play the Metal Gear Solid series. There is nothing more for me to say or for u to hear. Metal Gear Solid 2 ( & the series as a whole ) is simply the best video game ever made, period.