ATM PIN reveral to catch a Robber?

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caleb

Ambassador of Buzz
I just rcvd a email from a friend of mine who forwarded the following e-mail...could this be true?

"If you should ever be forced by a robber to withdraw money from an ATM
machine, you can notify the police by entering your Pin # in reverse.

For example if your pin number is 1234 then you would put in 4321. The ATM
recognizes that your pin number is backwards from the ATM card you placed in the machine.The machine will still give you the money you requested, but unknown to the robber,the police will be immediately dispatched to help you.

This information was recently broadcasted on TV and it states that it is
seldom used because people don't know it exists.Please pass this along"
 

jack// ani

In the zone
i doubt if its really true.....how about people having 1111,2222.....so on as PIN there number, so police won't come when they are robbed!! LOL.....
 

sonusahu

Broken In
" dude... this ain't united states", thats the reply i gave to my friend who forwarded this email to me...lol
 

satyamy

Alive Again...
normally u dont get pin like 1111, 2222..........:)
so..............:D
i have'nt n non of my frnd has like this
if anyone has than tell...........
 

sysfilez

Welcome To The Jungle
i dont think this works, as if also the police will come after 1hr and by that time everything will be over.
 

eddie

El mooooo
Summary:
Message claims that if you are forced by robbers to withdraw money from an ATM, you can secretly alert police by entering your PIN in reverse

Status:
False - This technology exists but is not yet in general use.

*www.hoax-slayer.com/reverse-pin-ATM.shtml
 

naveen_reloaded

!! RecuZant By Birth !!
jack// ani said:
i doubt if its really true.....how about people having 1111,2222.....so on as PIN there number, so police won't come when they are robbed!! LOL.....


dont worry mate..change ur pin to something like 5643

wont u do it if u have an option to save urself from rpbber????
 

outlaw

De@d
its not possible

cuz the atm machine wont give da cash if u enter the pin code in reverse order cuz one account is supposed to have a single pin

so if da pin code is 1234 and u enter 4321 why should da machine give u da money ; beats da purpose of having a PIN CODE
 

it_waaznt_me

Coming back to life ..
This comes from a banker :D. That is false info and if you do that thrice your ATM card will either be captured in the machine or will be blocked for a day.

If you really get stuck in such situation try to get the robber's video shot by the camera installed in the ATM.
 

Stick

Ambassador of Buzz
sysfilez said:
i dont think this works, as if also the police will come after 1hr and by that time everything will be over.
With yourself:D
 
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desertwind

Cyborg Agent
Claim: Entering one's PIN in reverse at any ATM will summon the police.

Status: False.

Example: [Collected via e-mail, 2006]

I just found out that should you ever be forced to withdraw monies from an ATM machine, you can notify the police by entering your Pin # in reverse. The machine will still give you the monies you requested, but unkown to the robber, etc, the police will be immediately dispatched to help you.

The broadcast stated that this method of calling the police is very seldom used because people don't know it exist, and it might mean the difference between life and death. Hopefully, none of you will have to use this, but I wanted to pass it along just in case you hadn't heard of it. Please pass it along to everyone possible.

Origins: This seemingly helpful heads-up began circulating on the Internet in September 2006. However, "seemingly" is the best that can be said of it at this point, in that entering one's Personal Identification Number (PIN) in reverse at Automated Teller Machines (ATMs) does not summon the
police.

Such a system was first imagined in 1994 and patented in 1998 by Joseph Zingher, a Chicago businessman. His SafetyPIN System would alert police that a crime was in progress when a cardholder at an ATM keyed in the reverse of his personal identification numbers. The flip-flopped PIN would serve as a "panic code" that sent a silent alarm to police to notify them that an ATM customer was acting under duress. Because palindromic PINs (e.g., 2002, 7337, 4884) cannot be reversed, Zingher's system included work-arounds for such numeric combinations.

However, Zingher has had little success in interesting the banking community in SafetyPIN despite his pitching it to them with great persistence over the years. He did in 2004 succeed in getting the Illinois General Assembly to adopt a "reverse PIN" clause in SB 562, but the final version of the bill watered down the wording so as to make banks' implementation of the system optional rather than mandatory: "A terminal operated in this State may be designed and programmed so that when a consumer enters his or her personal identification number in reverse order, the terminal automatically sends an alarm to the local law enforcement agency having jurisdiction over the terminal location."

In 2006, Michael Boyd pressed the Georgia State Assembly to pass a law requiring banks to create ATM panic codes that would operate the machines normally while also alerting police. His wife, Kimberly Boyd, was killed on 12 September 2005 after being carjacked by convicted sex offender Brian O'Neil Clark and forced to withdraw cash at an ATM. (She died when Clark crashed her SUV while being followed by a civilian who ultimately shot Clark to death afterwards.)

Such a bill is before the Georgia Senate, having been placed there on 29 December 2005. But nothing has happened on SB 379 since then.

In 2004, the Kansas state senate sent to its Financial Institutions and Insurance Committee
SB 333, a bill that stated: "Any automated teller machine operated in this state shall be designed and programmed so that when a consumer enters such consumer’s personal identification number in reverse order, the automated teller machine automatically sends an alarm to the local law enforcement agency having jurisdiction over the automated teller machine location." That bill died in committee that year.

All this talk of various bills in three different state legislatures may serve to obscure some of the more important points attaching to this issue, points that are key to making up one's mind about whether having such a system in place is actually a good idea.

No one in the banking industry seems to want the technology. The banks argue against its implementation, not only on the basis of cost but also because they doubt such an alert would help anyone being coerced into making an ATM withdrawal. Even if police could be summoned via the keying of a special "alert" or "panic" code, they would likely arrive long after victim and captor had departed. There is also the very real possibility that victims' fumbling around while trying to trigger silent alarms could cause their captors to realize something was up and take those realizations out on their captives. Finally, there is the problem of quickly conjuring up the accustomed PIN in reverse. Even in situations lacking added stress, mentally reconstructing one's PIN backwards is a difficult task for many people. Add to that difficulty the terror of being in the possession of a violent and armed person, and precious few victims might be able to come up with reversed PINs seamlessly enough to fool their captors into believing that everything was proceeding according to plan. As Chuck Stones of the Kansas Bankers Association said in 2004: "I'm not sure anyone here could remember their PIN numbers backward with a gun to their head."

Barbara "neither Smith nor Wesson is known to prompt mental acuity in those they are pointed at" Mikkelson
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ajayashish

Living to Succeed
well now what will happen next...

People do that false to she whether this really works or not.... and then the robbers are more smart than use... when they see that it is not giving us cash and giving a wrong pin message they will understand what the matter is.. as the police will tale atleast 30mins to reach the spot... after all this is Indian Police
 
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